FlightBoyz Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Been on board Campbell since he was released. It's a no brainer. Even at his age he still makes an impact. Sign him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 Jets holding tryouts for their new Flight Crew 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtomm Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Jets4Life1979 said: Always liked this guy. He can help us in " spot-duty " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asymmetrical Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, jtomm said: Always liked this guy. He can help us in " spot-duty " . I just want to say that I know your avatar is Tom Hardy, who is a national treasure, but when it's slightly shrunken on the main page it looks like Brendon Fraser in The Whale and it is very funny to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 5 hours ago, MykePM said: If Zach had developed into a competent QB, the plan to build a consistent winner would have turned out perfectly. The Jets would have made the playoffs last year, and by staying the course plus adding some complimentary pieces this offseason, they would have been championship contenders this year without the need to make big splash moves for older players. Because Zach is not ready to succeed as a starting QB (if he ever will be), however, JD has been forced to deviate from the original plan. The rebuild has worked well enough to make the Jets contenders everywhere else on the team except the most important position - and procuring a young QB who’s ready to lead a winning team immediately is near-impossible to do. So, he needed to devote significant resources to get a veteran QB who’s championship caliber. Believe it or not, of all the possible options, Rodgers is the best combination of high ceiling and smallest long-term impact on draft and salary cap resources. Options like Carr, Garappolo, Tannehill, Minshew, etc. would have topped out at the 11-win season potential you mocked and Lamar Jackson would have required a massive and risky long-term investment. The Rodgers move makes the Jets a win-now team, and that means filling in some holes with other older players in order to make a championship run. I believe that JD will try to do this in a way that doesn’t cripple our future like the Rams and Bucs did recently. Rodgers is likely to be the only one who will cost the Jets draft picks, and if players like Campbell and OBJ can be signed to short-term deals that don’t break the bank, the long-term success plan won’t be blown up completely. The Jets still have a core of talented young players. Best case scenario: championship run this and/or next season, continue to draft well while giving up only Day 2 picks for Rodgers, clear out the older players no later than 2025, and get back on the long-term success plan with Zach or another young QB we draft in the near future. It’s pointless engaging with a fool like him. JD and Saleh have their own jobs to save…..After a terrible miss drafting Wilson, they have no choice but to make a pivot. Bringing in Rodgers not only gives them a 1-2 year window to go for it all(and immortalize themselves) it gives them a chance to reconfigure themselves long term at QB. If Rodgers does indeed give them 2 years, Zach will be done with his contract here, as they surely won’t pick up his 5th year option. It gives them the opportunity to assess the course forward in either finding another stop-gap, or throwing all their resources in for a QB at the top of the draft, or taking a later QB and taking the time to develop him. It depends on the landscape in 2 years. Bringing in Rodgers affords them that opportunity, where as if they continued to delude themselves into thinking Wilson is salvageable, or bringing in a lesser vet would have ensured their fate and they wouldn’t be here past this season….. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 11 hours ago, jetlaw said: How much is he going to get paid at his age? 7 or 8 million? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app That's about right. He played for $7m last year when he restructured. Gotta think it would be around the same. Try to get him in a 2 year contract for the Rodgers window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: If Rodgers does indeed give them 2 years, Zach will be done with his contract here, as they surely won’t pick up his 5th year option. I'm not sure this is accurate. I could totally see a situation where the Jets have told Rodgers they will go all in for the 2 years (meaning use every asset to get him a ring and not draft a QB high). If it were me, I'd be planning a very rough 2025 season where we eat a lot of dead cap, have Zach on his 5th year option (the cheapest of the 4 fifth year options as he wont hit the playing time threshold) as the QB we want to give a final try with, if it doesn't work out, as I've heard many suggest, it would give the Jets a high pick in the 2026 draft to go for a QB. I'm not saying that is the plan but I think there is absolutely a road map with Zach here in 2025. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post C Mart Posted March 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2023 16 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I'm not sure this is accurate. I could totally see a situation where the Jets have told Rodgers they will go all in for the 2 years (meaning use every asset to get him a ring and not draft a QB high). If it were me, I'd be planning a very rough 2025 season where we eat a lot of dead cap, have Zach on his 5th year option (the cheapest of the 4 fifth year options as he wont hit the playing time threshold) as the QB we want to give a final try with, if it doesn't work out, as I've heard many suggest, it would give the Jets a high pick in the 2026 draft to go for a QB. I'm not saying that is the plan but I think there is absolutely a road map with Zach here in 2025. He may not develop and ever work out here but we all should allow Hackett and this O staff a year or two to work with ZW. AR & even Lazard praise Hackett as a great teacher. As football guy has stated here a few times, MLF wasn’t able to teach or connect with ZW. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 8 hours ago, shuler82 said: Why don’t you and @Green Ghost embrace in a big troll hug… might make you feel better ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Jets holding tryouts for their new Flight Crew Are they auditioning for "80 For Brady Part II". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashlite80 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Been a great pro. Can still pressure the passer but run defense is bad. Ranked 131 out of 140 DT's in depth of tackle (3.6 yards). We can get pass rush on the interior by rotating Franklin Myers inside. We need a big run stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, FlightBoyz said: Been on board Campbell since he was released. It's a no brainer. Even at his age he still makes an impact. Sign him. on the cheap though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Jets holding tryouts for their new Flight Crew Sad truth is that these honeys probably move better than 3/4 of this members of the board ? (including myself of course) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 58 minutes ago, C Mart said: He may not develop and ever work out here but we all should allow Hackett and this O staff a year or two to work with ZW. AR & even Lazard praise Hackett as a great teacher. As football guy has stated here a few times, MLF wasn’t able to teach or connect with ZW. Agreed! Not to mention there is a highly coveted QB coming out in 2026. The Jets should also be rich with comp picks assuming we are forced to let some players walk on 2025 due to the dead cap hits. Edit - not the plan per say but a happy positive if "the plan" doesn't work out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Sad truth is that these honeys probably move better than 3/4 of this members of the board ? (including myself of course) These honeys move better than this Dunnie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Green Ghost said: I’m still laughing at how @shuler82 has reverted back to his old self again. This was his “thing” a few years back. Then when he had a family crisis, I reached out to him via DM’s, we talked over a lot of things and he apologized for acting like a dick on the forum. Apparently the old adages are true. A leopard can’t change his spots, and a dick will always be a dick. That said, I would revel in my purported role as Troll King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 12 hours ago, jgb said: Jets have loved their DLs long as I’ve been alive I remember when 3T was their biggest weakness. They've certainly tried to address it the last 20 years, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsRay Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 He would be this year's Vinny Curry at a position of need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Zeke, OBJ, Rodgers, Campbell etc. Joe D has completely changed his philosophy. Has seems to have bagged building a long term consistent winner. Jet fans rejoice. You are going to get your 11 win season, knocked out early in playoffs and then it crumbles and we will suck for the next 10 years again. Stay the course Joe! You are blowing it!!!!!!!! I dunno. He's taking his shot while developing young talent. I don't see him changing his whole philosophy by any means. Hes already re-cooped the draft pick he will most likely give up for Rodgers. And I think the Moore trade was inevitable anyway. Yes, JD pivoted to win now mode. But he's not sacrificing the future of the franchise. He hasn't even pulled the plug on the Zach Wilson experiment, although cutting or trading him wouldn't make much sense anyway. It will be interesting to see what happens in the draft, what we give up for Rodgers if and when the deal is finally made, and how FA rounds out come training camp. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, PepPep said: I dunno. He's taking his shot while developing young talent. I don't see him changing his whole philosophy by any means. Hes already re-cooped the draft pick he will most likely give up for Rodgers. And I think the Moore trade was inevitable anyway. Yes, JD pivoted to win now mode. But he's not sacrificing the future of the franchise. He hasn't even pulled the plug on the Zach Wilson experiment, although cutting or trading him wouldn't make much sense anyway. It will be interesting to see what happens in the draft, what we give up for Rodgers if and when the deal is finally made, and how FA rounds out come training camp. I hope not. It feels that way though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I'm not sure this is accurate. I could totally see a situation where the Jets have told Rodgers they will go all in for the 2 years (meaning use every asset to get him a ring and not draft a QB high). If it were me, I'd be planning a very rough 2025 season where we eat a lot of dead cap, have Zach on his 5th year option (the cheapest of the 4 fifth year options as he wont hit the playing time threshold) as the QB we want to give a final try with, if it doesn't work out, as I've heard many suggest, it would give the Jets a high pick in the 2026 draft to go for a QB. I'm not saying that is the plan but I think there is absolutely a road map with Zach here in 2025. Agree to disagree.... What has Zach Shown to garner a 5th year option being picked up, and what opportunity will he get to show he's worth it given Rodgers presence here in the next 1-2 years? Some may say practice and around the facility will give him the opportunity, but I wouldn't. I'd need to see how he handles live bullets flying after a true reset..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Green Ghost said: I’m still laughing at how @shuler82 has reverted back to his old self again. This was his “thing” a few years back. Then when he had a family crisis, I reached out to him via DM’s, we talked over a lot of things and he apologized for acting like a dick on the forum. Apparently the old adages are true. A leopard can’t change his spots, and a dick will always be a dick. That said, I would revel in my purported role as Troll King. you’re surprisingly thin skinned for someone who brings his condescending douchebagery into every thread. … and you’ve got the wrong guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, shuler82 said: you’re surprisingly thin skinned for someone who brings his condescending douchebagery into every thread. … and you’ve got the wrong guy. No I don’t. btw randomly tagging someone just to cheap shot them is a douchey as it gets. So you can GFY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Green Ghost said: I’m still laughing at how @shuler82 has reverted back to his old self again. This was his “thing” a few years back. Then when he had a family crisis, I reached out to him via DM’s, we talked over a lot of things and he apologized for acting like a dick on the forum. Apparently the old adages are true. A leopard can’t change his spots, and a dick will always be a dick. That said, I would revel in my purported role as Troll King. 9 minutes ago, shuler82 said: you’re surprisingly thin skinned for someone who brings his condescending douchebagery into every thread. … and you’ve got the wrong guy. 3 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: I don’t think so, but GFY anyway. Man this place is so much better now that fat dick Crusher isn’t a moderator anymore. Like who needs moderation anyways? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 13 hours ago, shuler82 said: Why don’t you and @Green Ghost embrace in a big troll hug… might make you feel better ? 9 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Man this place is so much better now that fat dick Crusher isn’t a moderator anymore. Like who needs moderation anyways? You forgot the top one Crush, that’s what started it (along with another random one he left the other day. I get your point though, I’m done responding to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: You forgot the top one Crush, that’s what started it (along with another random one he left the other day. I get your point though, I’m done responding to him. My bad. Thanks brother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 59 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: Agree to disagree.... What has Zach Shown to garner a 5th year option being picked up, and what opportunity will he get to show he's worth it given Rodgers presence here in the next 1-2 years? Some may say practice and around the facility will give him the opportunity, but I wouldn't. I'd need to see how he handles live bullets flying after a true reset..... We have 2 drafts and a year, with a new OC with a HoF QB, between now and when we need to make any decision on Zach Wilson. What I was getting at is that it may be worth throwing a season away, gambling on Zach's development in 2025. Especially when said season would have enormous dead caps hits, that would likely prevent us from fielding a competitive team anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: We have 2 drafts and a year, with a new OC with a HoF QB, between now and when we need to make any decision on Zach Wilson. What I was getting at is that it may be worth throwing a season away, gambling on Zach's development in 2025. Especially when said season would have enormous dead caps hits, that would likely prevent us from fielding a competitive team anyway. I agree, but this sounds eerily like Packers fans reasoning for not wanting cave on getting a big return for Rodgers this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Green Ghost said: I agree, but this sounds eerily like Packers fans reasoning for not wanting cave on getting a big return for Rodgers this offseason. Sure, they don't want to cave, the Jets can wait til after the draft. There is no rush for us to get this thing done now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Sure, they don't want to cave, the Jets can wait til after the draft. There is no rush for us to get this thing done now I get that, but I was referring to the point you made (which I agreed with) where we would be fine seeing what Wilson had in ‘25 since we’d be in cap trouble, and equating that with GB and Love if they don’t trade Rodgers this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Green Ghost said: I get that, but I was referring to the argument you made (which I agreed with) where we would be fine seeing what Wilson had in ‘25 since we’d be in cap trouble, and equating that with GB and Love if they don’t trade Rodgers now. I’d say two love child’s by two different married woman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, Green Ghost said: I get that, I was referring to the argument you made ( which I agreed with) where we would be fine seeing what Wilson had in ‘25 since we’d be in cap trouble, and equating that with GB and Love if they don’t trade Rodgers now. Ooo I see what you are saying. Love is going to request a trade if Rodgers stays. If they decide to keep both, then i think, they'd only have them for 2 seasons. That $100m dead cap hit in 2025 should prevent them from franchising Love. (I'd imagine at least) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I’d say two love child’s by two different married woman. I’m rereading my post, and to be honest, even i don’t understand what I’m asking him. ? He just did a great job with his reply though… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 7 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I'm not sure this is accurate. I could totally see a situation where the Jets have told Rodgers they will go all in for the 2 years (meaning use every asset to get him a ring and not draft a QB high). If it were me, I'd be planning a very rough 2025 season where we eat a lot of dead cap, have Zach on his 5th year option (the cheapest of the 4 fifth year options as he wont hit the playing time threshold) as the QB we want to give a final try with, if it doesn't work out, as I've heard many suggest, it would give the Jets a high pick in the 2026 draft to go for a QB. I'm not saying that is the plan but I think there is absolutely a road map with Zach here in 2025. 2026. Just in time for Arch manning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I’d say two love child’s by two different married woman. You think pre-menopausal is his wheelhouse? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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