Matt39 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Biggs said: Allen 150 million guarateed. Kyler Murray got 160 guaranteed. Wilson 161 fully guaranteed. Seems like 133 is a lowball offer even if you throw out Watson's deal. I thought it was 180-190? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jets Things Posted March 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: I could say I’ll ask your mom, but i don’t want to get in trouble here, so I won’t. Nice edit, helmet kisser. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Jets Things said: I hope you have a medium because she's dead, but keep it classy, ass-face. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Things Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Green Ghost said: Came out of left field, I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TuscanyTile2 Posted March 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2023 I've got a great idea for a trade: Lamar Jackson for Aaron Rodgers. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Biggs said: Allen 150 million guarateed. Kyler Murray got 160 guaranteed. Wilson 161 fully guaranteed. Seems like 133 is a lowball offer even if you throw out Watson's deal. Allen and Murray were longer deals. 160/5 = 30 150/6 = 25 133/3 = 44 If the 3 years, 133 million is real then it's much more guaranteed money per year than what Allen or Murray got. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, jeremy2020 said: Allen and Murray were longer deals. 160/5 = 30 150/6 = 25 133/3 = 44 If the 3 years, 133 million is real then it's much more guaranteed money per year than what Allen or Murray got. https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2022/09/11/lamar-jackson-addresses-ravens-contract-extension-offer wad offered between 160-180 guaranteed right after the Jets game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Lamar is asking for guaranteed money which is basically the way it’s done in the other major pro sports. It’s not an outrageous ask. Plus teams buy insurance to cover contracts for injuries. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Pivot now. "Gutey" and "Murph" can go take a hike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2022/09/11/lamar-jackson-addresses-ravens-contract-extension-offer wad offered between 160-180 guaranteed right after the Jets game. I was responding to a specific poster's scenario, but thank you for your concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: I was responding to a specific poster's scenario, but thank you for your concern. hats off jeremy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, Matt39 said: EVery contract is guaranteed to a point. Watsons just happens to be guaranteed over the full life of the contract. Calling NFL deals non guaranteed is a bit misleading. Plus in Jackson’s case you have to cough up two firsts. Ravens can take less than 2 1sts in a trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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slats Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: I'm not sure where this sense of entitlement came from to...(checks notes)...get paid what the other guy got. Like the Jets, Cleveland had to pay the suck tax. Watson was leaning towards Atlanta or someone else when they went all in with the fully guaranteed contract, and it worked. It’s hardly a new model for contracts, although I understand why the owners hated the contract and Jackson wants one just like it. I have no fondness for the billionaires club, either, but I don’t think a QB who missed the last month of the previous two seasons should be the next in line for five fully guaranteed years. I don’t think there’s any collusion here, I just think no one thinks he’s worth the picks and/or that price. I don’t, either, so there’s that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 41 minutes ago, The Crusher said: @JiF4Lamar 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Maxman said: After reading his statement, I suggest Lamar invest in a proofreader. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, jeremy2020 said: This is disingenuous. Allen and Murray were longer deals. 160/5 = 30 150/6 = 25 133/3 = 44 If the 3 years, 133 million is real then it's much more guaranteed money per year than what Allen or Murray got. What does per year have to do with anything. If that was the case players would want to be tagged. They don't and neither do the teams. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtomm Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Go get him JD. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted March 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, slats said: I feel like Jackson is coming off as both entitled and ungrateful. Baltimore drafted him when he was about to drop out of the first first round, and specifically designed an offense tailored to his strengths and concealing his weaknesses. His entire beef appears to be his hard line for a contract, to the point that he wants out now? I’d advise him to be careful about what he wants. I don’t think there are too many coaches/organizations who are as capable of putting him in such a position to succeed. As for the Jets, they can’t develop a traditional QB. Jackson would be a nightmare of Russell Wilson proportions here, and maybe worse. *Lamar Jackson - entitled and ungrateful *Aaron Rodgers - enlightened and sensible, very gracious 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 14 minutes ago, Biggs said: Allen 150 million guarateed. Kyler Murray got 160 guaranteed. Wilson 161 fully guaranteed. Seems like 133 is a lowball offer even if you throw out Watson's deal. The Kyler contract might have been dumber than the Watson deal. I wonder if ARI would love to tear that up (not that they'd admit it publicly) if they could. Hard to say that DEN is happy with the Wilson deal so far. The problem for both teams is that if the QBs don't turn things around, the teams are screwed for YEARS because of the guaranteed money. KC and BUF are probably very happy with their deals. CIN, PHI, and SD are next up. We'll see how those go but fully guaranteed contracts are dumb in every sport from the team's perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Delicious jealousy is a waste emotion, I know but so jelly right now 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Matt39 said: https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2022/09/11/lamar-jackson-addresses-ravens-contract-extension-offer wad offered between 160-180 guaranteed right after the Jets game. If he was that's the right ballpark. I've only seen the leaked 133 guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 No thanks.. Jets don't have the money or inclination to go after Lamar. If Rodgers blows up - which it won't - id rather they trade for Stafford or Tannehill. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smashmouth Posted March 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2023 Anyone who trades multiple 1's and pays elite level QB money to Lamar Jackson is an Idiot. The guy had one good year and when forced to throw he fails in a big time way. Sure he's had some games where he was able to throw due to his ability to be a running threat but this guy will never ever win a SB that much I can guarantee. This is a Wild Cat QB and I say that because he throws for 2800 yards a year and that may be giving him too much credit. ESPN Highlight warrior not a good performer in big games at all/ 5 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 27 minutes ago, Maxman said: I think the difference is with him requesting a trade: 1. If you agree to a deal with Lamar you know you got him because you already agreed with the Ravens 2. The compensation could be less than signing him as a franchise player He is forcing the Ravens hand, especially if he tells them he isn't playing for them again. I think the Ravens are on record saying, if they trade him they want 3 first round picks as compensation. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, nycdan said: The Kyler contract might have been dumber than the Watson deal. I wonder if ARI would love to tear that up (not that they'd admit it publicly) if they could. Hard to say that DEN is happy with the Wilson deal so far. The problem for both teams is that if the QBs don't turn things around, the teams are screwed for YEARS because of the guaranteed money. KC and BUF are probably very happy with their deals. CIN, PHI, and SD are next up. We'll see how those go but fully guaranteed contracts are dumb in every sport from the team's perspective. All of these deals are dumb. The Aaron Rodgers deal was a complete cluster F for the Packers. It's not like the owners aren't involved and aren't creating a market dumb or not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankiepapa Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 The Kyler contract might have been dumber than the Watson deal. I wonder if ARI would love to tear that up (not that they'd admit it publicly) if they could. Hard to say that DEN is happy with the Wilson deal so far. The problem for both teams is that if the QBs don't turn things around, the teams are screwed for YEARS because of the guaranteed money. KC and BUF are probably very happy with their deals. CIN, PHI, and SD are next up. We'll see how those go but fully guaranteed contracts are dumb in every sport from the team's perspective.And with Murray, you have a new coach who is stuck with that contract Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, slats said: Like the Jets, Cleveland had to pay the suck tax. Watson was leaning towards Atlanta or someone else when they went all in with the fully guaranteed contract, and it worked. It’s hardly a new model for contracts, although I understand why the owners hated the contract and Jackson wants one just like it. I have no fondness for the billionaires club, either, but I don’t think a QB who missed the last month of the previous two seasons should be the next in line for five fully guaranteed years. I don’t think there’s any collusion here, I just think no one thinks he’s worth the picks and/or that price. I don’t, either, so there’s that. Yeah, it hit Rotoworld and all the outlets a few days prior that Cleveland was in fact told they were no longer in consideration by Watson and his camp. Then Haslam loses his mind and Watson suddenly changes his tune. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 27 minutes ago, Larz said: See if he had an agent he would have done this a month ago when teams were looking for a QB. The jets are all in on rodgers and 100.00 % will not contact lamar under any circumstances and risk Rodgers getting pissed. Don’t even discuss it. if he isn’t worth the contract he isn’t worth the contract plus picks. this is why you pay the agent the 4% or whatever it is Oops. I can’t read. He is saying he requested a trade march 2nd He was tagged march 7th. this is a total non story, no new information, nothing has changed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, slats said: Like the Jets, Cleveland had to pay the suck tax. Watson was leaning towards Atlanta or someone else when they went all in with the fully guaranteed contract, and it worked. It’s hardly a new model for contracts, although I understand why the owners hated the contract and Jackson wants one just like it. I have no fondness for the billionaires club, either, but I don’t think a QB who missed the last month of the previous two seasons should be the next in line for five fully guaranteed years. I don’t think there’s any collusion here, I just think no one thinks he’s worth the picks and/or that price. I don’t, either, so there’s that. We all know that running backs are a threat to eventually break down its why they don't get the huge contracts they used to get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Love Jet fans saying no to LJ AND Rodgers lol. What a time we're living in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Biggs said: What does per year have to do with anything. If that was the case players would want to be tagged. They don't and neither do the teams. Three years, $133M fully guaranteed, and then he’s a free agent at the new price for QBs. If you’re looking to maximize your income, and believe in yourself, that’s a pretty sweet deal. 8 minutes ago, JiF said: *Lamar Jackson - entitled and ungrateful *Aaron Rodgers - enlightened and sensible, very gracious You’ll have to find that Rodgers post for me, thanks. My biggest problem with Jackson is that he’s not plug & play. He’s a tough fit in most traditional offenses. Rodgers, otoh, is the prototype - regardless of his personality. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 The Cardinals sitting at #3 could start over with Bryce Young or Levis if they want. They are rebuilding, and I think they want out of Murray's contract. I don't love Kyler, but he'd be at least a legit fallback option if this Rodgers thing completely falls apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, slats said: Three years, $133M fully guaranteed, and then he’s a free agent at the new price for QBs. If you’re looking to maximize your income, and believe in yourself, that’s a pretty sweet deal. You’ll have to find that Rodgers post for me, thanks. My biggest problem with Jackson is that he’s not plug & play. He’s a tough fit in most traditional offenses. Rodgers, otoh, is the prototype - regardless of his personality. Yeah I don’t think the Jets will be interested in Lamar for that very reason. Hackett isn’t installing the Jackson offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, slats said: Three years, $133M fully guaranteed, and then he’s a free agent at the new price for QBs. If you’re looking to maximize your income, and believe in yourself, that’s a pretty sweet deal. You’ll have to find that Rodgers post for me, thanks. My biggest problem with Jackson is that he’s not plug & play. He’s a tough fit in most traditional offenses. Rodgers, otoh, is the prototype - regardless of his personality. We have no idea what the Ravens structure actually propossed. In a high risk business which NFL football actually is a sweet deal is getting the most guaranteed up front. If you happen to survive you extend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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