Robert Saleh Press Conference - 3/27

[Claymation]

 

[Claymation]

I believe Saleh looks like the Yellow Bastard in Sin City.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

I hope Corey Davis gets dealt within the hour just to show how much of a liar Saleh.

How could you possibly carry Corey Davis as your WR5 or WR6 at 9+ M when you’ve got GW, Lazard, Hardman, and you’re about to add Cobb and/or Beckham?

[k-met57]

34 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I hope Corey Davis gets dealt within the hour just to show how much of a liar Saleh.

How could you possibly carry Corey Davis as your WR5 or WR6 at 9+ M when you’ve got GW, Lazard, Hardman, and you’re about to add Cobb and/or Beckham?

There is no guarantee they add Cobb and Beckham is a long shot...so Davis may very well have a spot on this team. You are making premature conclusions and somehow holding Saleh accountable for them.

that being said, he is def full of sh*t lol...

"we got Hardman, and then we got calls for Elijah who we didnt want to trade...and got something really good to make the deal, so we made the deal" ..... thats a lot of stuff to happen in like 20 minutes...

[football guy]

Part of the Jets speaking up Corey Davis the way Saleh has is gamesmanship. Packers are convinced he's just a throw-in so the Jets are trying to establish that he's a member of their team that they won't release if he's not included in the trade. 

As far as his comments about Zach- much of this has been known for a while. Zach has actually been going back-and-forth between NJ and Utah. He's been in touch with Aaron and they are planning on working out together for about a month in LA prior to training camp. Zach is going to try and coordinate another "Jets West" with Aaron and the receivers. 

[k-met57]

2 minutes ago, football guy said:

Part of the Jets speaking up Corey Davis the way Saleh has is gamesmanship. Packers are convinced he's just a throw-in so the Jets are trying to establish that he's a member of their team that they won't release if he's not included in the trade. 

As far as his comments about Zach- much of this has been known for a while. Zach has actually been going back-and-forth between NJ and Utah. He's been in touch with Aaron and they are planning on working out together for about a month in LA prior to training camp. Zach is going to try and coordinate another "Jets West" with Aaron and the receivers. 

what a win it would be for this organization if Aaron can help Zach become the QB we thought he would be.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

2 minutes ago, football guy said:

Part of the Jets speaking up Corey Davis the way Saleh has is gamesmanship. Packers are convinced he's just a throw-in so the Jets are trying to establish that he's a member of their team that they won't release if he's not included in the trade. 

It so, it’s a waste and just makes him sound like a used car salesman.

Nobody is buying that.

People have eyes and brains.

Everybody knows CD isn’t a difference maker.  He obviously ain’t starting over Lazard.

It makes no sense to carry Corey Davis at current cost when they can save 9M by cutting him with a negligible deal cap charge.

[Claymation]

4 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

what a win it would be for this organization if Aaron can help Zach become the QB we thought he would be.

It would be, but I am more of the wait and see mode.

[section314]

6 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

what a win it would be for this organization if Aaron can help Zach become the QB we thought he would be.

That would be worth every $ of Rodgers sh*tty contract.

[nycdan]

2 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

It so, it’s a waste and just makes him sound like a used car salesman.

Nobody is buying that.

People have eyes and brains.

Everybody knows CD isn’t a difference maker.  He obviously ain’t starting over Lazard.

It makes no sense to carry Corey Davis at current cost when they can save 9M by cutting him with a negligible deal cap charge.

No.  You THINK CD isn't a difference maker.  You could be right.  You could be wrong.  But there's been a trend in the past few years of people wrapping their opinions with "everybody is saying...".  It's called gaslighting and it's not going to convince anyone of anything.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

1 minute ago, nycdan said:

No.  You THINK CD isn't a difference maker.  You could be right.  You could be wrong.  But there's been a trend in the past few years of people wrapping their opinions with "everybody is saying...".  It's called gaslighting and it's not going to convince anyone of anything.

I mean what’s your definition of a difference maker

Somebody that’s always banged up, and is a virtual lock to drop and/or fumble in critical situations?

He’s had basically 1 positive game changing play in 2 years, the broken play bomb vs TEN.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

4 minutes ago, nycdan said:

No.  You THINK CD isn't a difference maker.  You could be right.  You could be wrong.  But there's been a trend in the past few years of people wrapping their opinions with "everybody is saying...".  It's called gaslighting and it's not going to convince anyone of anything.

The only thing that matters is what the Jets really think.

If they thought he was as good as you apparently think he is, they wouldn’t have signed Lazard.

Lazard is obviously CD’s replacement in the starting lineup.

If CD were a difference maker, they’d be working on an extension right now instead of back door shopping him in the trade market.

[k-met57]

8 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

It so, it’s a waste and just makes him sound like a used car salesman.

Nobody is buying that.

People have eyes and brains.

Everybody knows CD isn’t a difference maker.  He obviously ain’t starting over Lazard.

It makes no sense to carry Corey Davis at current cost when they can save 9M by cutting him with a negligible deal cap charge.

your takes are terrible. 9m puts CD between russell gage and tim patrick...not to mention its a 1 year deal they could easily manipulate.

https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver

why is he "obviously" not starting over Lazard? guy had like 700 receiving yards with Aaron Rodgers last year. Not saying he cant play but to pretend like he is night and day better than CD is asinine.

[undertow]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I hope Corey Davis gets dealt within the hour just to show how much of a liar Saleh.

How could you possibly carry Corey Davis as your WR5 or WR6 at 9+ M when you’ve got GW, Lazard, Hardman, and you’re about to add Cobb and/or Beckham?

Cobb is a non factor he will make a few mil a year and be WR 6....if they do sign another WR at 7-10 mil that's when they will cut Davis...doesn't seem that complicated Saleh isn't going to bury a player under contract to make you feel better.

[Dunnie]

I believe Saleh looks like the Yellow Bastard in Sin City.

This is funny ..Posted this exact image as a satire of him 3 years ago .. glad someone else saw the resblance too

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[Warfish]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I hope Corey Davis gets dealt within the hour just to show how much of a liar Saleh.

How could you possibly carry Corey Davis as your WR5 or WR6 at 9+ M when you’ve got GW, Lazard, Hardman, and you’re about to add Cobb and/or Beckham?

What makes you think Davis would be slotted behind Lazard, Hardman or Cobb?

When healthy, he's a better WR than all three.  He just hasn't been healthy here (a constant refrain for Jets players).

[Columbia Jet Fan]

24 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

It so, it’s a waste and just makes him sound like a used car salesman.

Nobody is buying that.

People have eyes and brains.

Everybody knows CD isn’t a difference maker.  He obviously ain’t starting over Lazard.

It makes no sense to carry Corey Davis at current cost when they can save 9M by cutting him with a negligible deal cap charge.

What do you want him to say? Corey sucks and there is no point keeping him? Even if GB doesn't want him why not at least act like the Jets are planning on keeping him to help trade leverage if another team calls? Even if no team wants him why would you just actively trash a guy who hasn't done anything wrong? 

[32EBoozer]

41 minutes ago, football guy said:

Part of the Jets speaking up Corey Davis the way Saleh has is gamesmanship. Packers are convinced he's just a throw-in so the Jets are trying to establish that he's a member of their team that they won't release if he's not included in the trade. 

As far as his comments about Zach- much of this has been known for a while. Zach has actually been going back-and-forth between NJ and Utah. He's been in touch with Aaron and they are planning on working out together for about a month in LA prior to training camp. Zach is going to try and coordinate another "Jets West" with Aaron and the receivers. 

I would love for this to happen. After having “shade” thrown his way with all the Mike White love last season, having Rodgers legitimize Zach as his heir apparent will provide Zach with needed confidence and a “voice” within the locker room.

Phase II of the Zach Wilson development plan gets off on a solid footing.

[jetstream23]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I hope Corey Davis gets dealt within the hour just to show how much of a liar Saleh.

How could you possibly carry Corey Davis as your WR5 or WR6 at 9+ M when you’ve got GW, Lazard, Hardman, and you’re about to add Cobb and/or Beckham?

Corey Davis could be the best WR5 this team has ever had. lol

I can rattle off 3 or 4 seasons in the past decade that he would have been WR1 on the roster.  Let's be careful about ditching a guy who costs $9M when anyone else we sign would likely be in that same neighborhood, slightly cheaper, or cost even more.

[The Crusher]

38 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I mean what’s your definition of a difference maker

Somebody that’s always banged up, and is a virtual lock to drop and/or fumble in critical situations?

He’s had basically 1 positive game changing play in 2 years, the broken play bomb vs TEN.

Yep, you can't tell me all those third down drops don't make a difference.

[Joe W. Namath]

I thought it was big news that he said Carl Lawson is def coming back.

[batman10023]

2 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

I hope Corey Davis gets dealt within the hour just to show how much of a liar Saleh.

How could you possibly carry Corey Davis as your WR5 or WR6 at 9+ M when you’ve got GW, Lazard, Hardman, and you’re about to add Cobb and/or Beckham?

do you want Saleh to show all his cards?

[batman10023]

45 minutes ago, Columbia Jet Fan said:

What do you want him to say? Corey sucks and there is no point keeping him? Even if GB doesn't want him why not at least act like the Jets are planning on keeping him to help trade leverage if another team calls? Even if no team wants him why would you just actively trash a guy who hasn't done anything wrong? 

to make the small portion of crybaby fans happy?

[batman10023]

5 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

I thought it was big news that he said Carl Lawson is def coming back.

this was a surprise.  

[undertow]

10 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

I thought it was big news that he said Carl Lawson is def coming back.

Not really the only people who thought Lawson was gonna be cut were basement salary cap experts....never thought a pass rusher of his caliber who was coming off major surgery and had a very good end of the year was just gonna get kicked to the curb.

[football guy]

1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

It so, it’s a waste and just makes him sound like a used car salesman.

Nobody is buying that.

People have eyes and brains.

Everybody knows CD isn’t a difference maker.  He obviously ain’t starting over Lazard.

It makes no sense to carry Corey Davis at current cost when they can save 9M by cutting him with a negligible deal cap charge.

He's not starting over Lazard, but in the slim scenario he were to come back they wouldn't have the same role anyway. Lazard is going to play the big slot, Garrett is going to be the X, and Davis would be the Z with Mims as his direct backup. Mecole is going to be the 4th rotational receiver/offensive weapon and Cobb would be a backup/situational slot. 

• X: Garrett Wilson, Mecole Hardman 
• Y: Allen Lazard, Randall Cobb
• Z: Corey Davis, Denzel Mims

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

1 hour ago, k-met57 said:

your takes are terrible. 9m puts CD between russell gage and tim patrick...not to mention its a 1 year deal they could easily manipulate.

https://overthecap.com/position/wide-receiver

why is he "obviously" not starting over Lazard? guy had like 700 receiving yards with Aaron Rodgers last year. Not saying he cant play but to pretend like he is night and day better than CD is asinine.

the salary cap expands every year

you have to put everything in context

at the time they signed him, what they gave him was high-end WR2 money

Joe Douglas misjudged the market.  They were interested in Amari Cooper.

Had he known the WR market would explode like it has, he would have traded for Amari Cooper and gladly agreed to pay the 20M per.

Last season they went hard after Tyreek HIll and got rebuffed.

Lazard is a JAG just like CD

The thing ishey're not paying Lazard what they're paying him to ride the bench or be in a timeshare on the outside with CD.  Lazard will play 80 to 90% of the snaps.

It's not a "take".  It's a fairly obvious statement supported by facts.  The only ones who think Corey Davis is good are Stockholm-syndromed fans.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

Summary for those who didn’t listen.

1. Answered Corey Davis is coming back but I rate 6 out of 10 on the conviction scale

2. Really likes the safety group, expecting improvement from Whitehead in year 2.  Conviction rate an 8 since this was unsolicited

3. Went out of his way to ‘emphasize’ that Carl Lawson will be a Jet as long as he can still rush the passer, which was implied by his comments.  Strongest conviction out of the 3

Other Notable Commentary

- Answered that ‘as of now’, Zach is the back-up and then proceeded to try to walk the ‘as of now’ part back …. Hmmmm

- When discussing the safeties, mentioned Ashtyn Davis ahead of ‘T.A.’ (Tony Adams, possibly t!ts & ass .. it was unclear)

- Proactively highlighted 2 open DT spots, was pretty clear that this was the #1 current hole on defense

- In answering a question about the Tackles, loves him some Duane Brown, referenced Becton’s social posts regarding how good the big guy looks and is ‘confident that Max Mitchell will be back healthy’.  Didn’t shy away from the fact the draft is a place they might look to add

- Also didn’t shy away from OBJ talk, who he called a ‘great player and person’ 

- Highlighted multiple times Lazard’s strength in the red zone 

- The Jets were surprised Hardman was available

- Commented how JD was ‘scared’ of an angry Jets fan after the Jags game @kevinc855

- Glowed about the positive fans at jetnation, specifically a poster named @bitonti

[bitonti]

6 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

- Glowed about the positive fans at jetnation, specifically a poster named @bitonti

These GM and coaches come and go

the fans are forever

 

[Dunnie]

49 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

I thought it was big news that he said Carl Lawson is def coming back.

probably the biggest news.

[k-met57]

22 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

the salary cap expands every year

you have to put everything in context

at the time they signed him, what they gave him was high-end WR2 money

Joe Douglas misjudged the market.  They were interested in Amari Cooper.

Had he known the WR market would explode like it has, he would have traded for Amari Cooper and gladly agreed to pay the 20M per.

Last season they went hard after Tyreek HIll and got rebuffed.

Lazard is a JAG just like CD

The thing ishey're not paying Lazard what they're paying him to ride the bench or be in a timeshare on the outside with CD.  Lazard will play 80 to 90% of the snaps.

It's not a "take".  It's a fairly obvious statement supported by facts.  The only ones who think Corey Davis is good are Stockholm-syndromed fans.

you may have the least informed AND the most definitive posts i've ever seen. congrats.

[32EBoozer]

6 hours ago, Dunnie said:

probably the biggest news.

Yeah, I thought he’d be gone when Cap is needed for Rodgers. This tells me AR Will definitely be reworking his contract.

[JetNation]

NY Jets head coach Robert Saleh spoke to reporters at the owner’s meetings, and, you guessed it, Aaron Rodgers was the topic of conversation. As much as Saleh tried to say I will defer to Joe Douglas, the questions kept coming. He said he couldn’t discuss it but did add we have come a long way in two years. A lot of excitement around the organization and players wanting to be here shows that.

What is the cut-off point? More of a Joe Douglas question, a coach always wants things yesterday. Zach is the # 2 quarterback, he has a future in this league. He has the work ethic and the mindset.

Did you speak with Zach after the Pat McAfee interview? He has been great, and he is working his butt off back home. He hasn’t come close to sniffing his ceiling. Allen Lazard, Odell Beckham Jr, Mecole Hardman, Corey Davis and Elijah Moore were other big topics in this interview.

Calais Campbell was another name that came up, but Saleh deferred to Douglas once again. How about Zeke Elliot from the Cowboys? Didn’t sound like the Jets were interested as the answer was, we love our running back room and I will leave it at that.

Offensive Line? Duane Brown is rehabbing and looking good, I have to start drinking the water he is drinking. Mekhi, I know he is posting pictures, he is working hard. Saleh also mentioned that Max Mitchell is expected back next season.

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