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Let's be honest, our line depth is not great


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Really looking forward to see what Rodgers can do with the offense, but think that folks may be overestimating his impact on leading us to the hallowed land.  Frankly, we've lost significant depth in the trenches this offseason.  While our edge players may improve (Clemons, Johnson, Huff, and Lawson are good depth), beyond Quinnen you have Smart and Thomas.  Very little room for injury.   Same goes for o-line.  An elder Brown is back, I am optimistic about Becton, and Max Mitchell returns.  But we don't have a bonafide center right now, and the guard depth is atrocious.  Don't know much about Colon and Schweizert, but seem like Feeney type replacements.  Again, an injury away from badness with a 40 yo QB.

Sure, we can select players in the draft, but usually those guys take a year or so to reach maturity.  Would expect D-line and O-line this year in the draft.  Which doesn't even consider the need at safety.  Center an absolute must.  Yes, we might sign Ben Jones, but he missed half the season with concussions last year.  Good luck with that.

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Depth on both lines will look better after the draft, they’re filling up the rest of the roster and seem to be leaving spots to draft guys on the OL and at DT. Wonder if plan A is drafting a center and plan B is Jones or if Jones gets wrapped up pre draft.

Seems like there’s really just room for one more iOL unless they’re planning to keep six. Though the depth there may be more important if kicking AVT to tackle is their first move if they lose someone there.

Think the two iOL they’ve signed both seem to be better than Feeney, legitimate fringe starters whereas he was a known pure backup. Was glad they went in a different direction with the veteran backup iOL.

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true enough but it's not for lack of trying.  imagine if becton, clark, avt, max, and even fant were all together on the oline without injury?  throw in mcgovern too.  that would be a pretty stout oline. unfortunately it hasn't worked out that way.  hopefully tomlinson has a rebound year (if not cut), becton returns and plays the whole season, avt returns as does max.  that would only leave the center position unfilled.  the new signees will be depth.  not bad as long as they get practice time together.

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7 minutes ago, Tranquilo said:

It's not great but it's not awful either. I also think Rodgers improves the line cause he gets rid of the ball quickly

Rodgers quick release is a good point.  The line has several potential upsides.  Having AVT and Breece back is a big lift.  Becton is a huge upgrade if healthy. Contract year so he decided to get in shape.  They also have a new offensive line coach.  When you swap lineman again and again, with no improvement, look to the O-line coach.  I remember the first thing Parcells did was bring in Callahan.  The same line improved significantly.  May be part of why Tomlinson went from Pro-Bowler with a very high PFF to stiff in one season.

 

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42 minutes ago, Ron Rico said:

The good news is this draft has Beaucoup O and D linemen.

 

That's why the draft compensation for Rodgers matters a lot.  I personally would like to see a package built around:

1) Swap of Jets 2nd round pick for Packers 3rd Round pick (equivalent of a third round pick, or Elijah Moore).

2) Conditional 3rd next year

3) Corey Davis (sweetener for the Packers fans to come to terms with their lack of leverage; we were gonna cut him anyway).

We're gonna need those picks with the money that we are shelling out for Rodgers (and soon Q). 

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Agreed. I really think we trade down in the 1st round for John Michael Schmitz, getting an additional 2nd or 3rd depending availability, we pickup another offensive lineman and defensive lineman. In addition, although it seemed we were going to cut him, Carl Lawson sounds like he is staying, hopefully on a restructured contract. 

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2 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

At 13 T Sko and at 43 C Schmitz.  Round 3 best player available at S, DL or LB.

If you mean John Michael Schmitz, there is almost a zero chance he will be there at 43.  If you want him, you probably need to be picking in the low 20's in the first round. 

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3 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

If you mean John Michael Schmitz, there is almost a zero chance he will be there at 43.  If you want him, you probably need to be picking in the low 20's in the first round. 

Realty. Seems JD really wants him.  Theyve had several visits with him and C seems to be as high a need as RT. We do have Mitchell as depth. Trade back get an extra 2 or 3 and grab him.   LT Brown - LG Lake - C Schmitz - RG AVT - RT Becton. I could live with that.

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14 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

Realty. Seems JD really wants him.  Theyve had several visits with him and C seems to be as high a need as RT. We do have Mitchell as depth. Trade back get an extra 2 or 3 and grab him.   LT Brown - LG Lake - C Schmitz - RG AVT - RT Becton. I could live with that.

I have a feeling if we started with that line and could get say more than 3 quarters of one game before an injury, I feel like Laken's play would improve.  And if we could get his performance from San Fran, we would be good.  This is ALWAYS the risk/reward of free agency.  You sign a guy like Laken and then wonder why he wasn't very good.  He might very well have been as good as he was because he was beside great players.  I always remember Rob Brown scoring 50 goals with Mario Lemieux.  He signs a big contract with Hartford (and other teams after), and never scores 20 goals again.  

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