This team has a ton of holes

[Morrissey]

OT

C

DT

LB

S

WR

 

JD has done a poor job so far this off-season addressing team needs. And this is assuming QB is figured out, but lets no focus on that right now.

[jetsons]

Just another reason not to trade Any of the 2023 Draft picks. 

[shuler82]

OT - have two starters on the roster and a 4th round backup who got playing time last year.  Need another body - could see a draft pick 

C - Ben Jones or high pick 

DT - have our two starters and a backup. JFM can move inside.  Could also see them using a pick here

LB - Clark is going to fill the Keon Alexander role. The fact they haven’t cut Whitehead means Clark wasn’t brought in to be the backup SS. 
 

S - Joyner was horrible last year. The team likes Parks, but yeah, we need to bring in another FS

WR - I didn’t love the Moore trade but I think we all forget how much a good QB elevates his WRs. Could still see a move here post Beckham 

 

 

 

[Beerfish]

The jets have falsely convinced themselves that they are just a good QB away from going all the way.  They needed one more year of development and adding more good players via the draft.

[shuler82]

1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

The jets have falsely convinced themselves that they are just a good QB away from going all the way.  They needed one more year of development and adding more good players via the draft.

So they’re not drafting anyone this year? 

[Sammybighead]

28 minutes ago, Morrissey said:

OT

C

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JD has done a poor job so far this off-season addressing team needs. And this is assuming QB is figured out, but lets no focus on that right now.

This is ridiculous pre draft.

Not to mention second wave of free agency that usually occurs after the draft.

Judge the final product week 1 

[Dunnie]

Time to resurrect the Elephant in the Room thread ????

[Rich Thornburgh]

OT is not a hole.  Our QBs were all terrible last year

[jgb]

Aaron Rodgers + Mike Evans in trade + a decent draft and this team is primed for a playoff run.

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

[Jetluv58]

7 hours ago, Beerfish said:

The jets have falsely convinced themselves that they are just a good QB away from going all the way.  They needed one more year of development and adding more good players via the draft.

To hell with one more year, let’s go! 

[rangerous]

Sure those positions are open now but there’s still the draft and other free agents coming out when teams finish doing their cap finagling.  And even there the guys like McGovern and kwon haven’t yet received any offers from other teams yet. They could very well be back on the team. As for wr, they lost Moore and signed Lazard and hardman. They haven’t cur Davis yet so they have a solid group of starter plus tes and hall and carter. There are plenty of guys for Rodgers to throw to. And they’ll bring in a couple of guys for depth and specials.

[The Crusher]

10 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

OT is not a hole.  Our QBs were all terrible last year

Yeah, how the hell Garret Wilson still win OFROY is astounding with that lot throwing him the ball. Looking at  him finally playing with a real QB is what’s keeping me modestly sane siring this period. 

[JiFtheOracle]

The team as of 4/10 blows goats and plans on trading players and picks for a player who doesnt want to play and has zero invested interest in the success of the NY Jets.

[Bobby816]

11 hours ago, Morrissey said:

OT

C

DT

LB

S

WR

 

JD has done a poor job so far this off-season addressing team needs. And this is assuming QB is figured out, but lets no focus on that right now.

So if we don't have a star there it's a hole?

We need an OT yes. But even if we draft a guy at 13, they might not start over Brown or Becton. So we actually have 2 starting OTs.

C I agree with you on this one.

DT, we need depth. We need 1 more guy that's a run stuffer. Q, Jefferson, Thomas there now and JFM can slide inside if we need to as well.

LB we likely need 1 more guy. But I can see us liking our starting group now as well with CJ, Q and Sherwood. Sherwood is very underrated.

S: We have our starters in Clark and Whitehead. Parks and Davis as depth

WR: We have Wilson, Davis, Lazard, Hardman and Mims. It's not a hole. Can it like every position be upgraded? Sure. That's everywhere for every team thoguh.

 

[Jet Nut]

11 hours ago, Morrissey said:

OT

C

DT

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S

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JD has done a poor job so far this off-season addressing team needs. And this is assuming QB is figured out, but lets no focus on that right now.

Season starts this Sunday?

[Dunnie]

So if we don't have a star there it's a hole?
We need an OT yes. But even if we draft a guy at 13, they might not start over Brown or Becton. So we actually have 2 starting OTs.
C I agree with you on this one.
DT, we need depth. We need 1 more guy that's a run stuffer. Q, Jefferson, Thomas there now and JFM can slide inside if we need to as well.
LB we likely need 1 more guy. But I can see us liking our starting group now as well with CJ, Q and Sherwood. Sherwood is very underrated.
S: We have our starters in Clark and Whitehead. Parks and Davis as depth
WR: We have Wilson, Davis, Lazard, Hardman and Mims. It's not a hole. Can it like every position be upgraded? Sure. That's everywhere for every team thoguh.
 

Has Sherwood had a game of note yet ? I can't remember ever saying that guy is a game wrecker.

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[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

The best teams win with elite players, especially at QB and across premium positions.  

Elite players make everyone around them better (QB who can throw receivers open, a WR or DT who is double teamed, a CB who can shut down 1 side of the field).

Jets have 7 elite players with Rodgers.  SIX are young with the arrow pointing up (the 1 caveat being Hall who is coming back from an ACL).

 

1. QB Rodgers

2. WR Wilson

3. RB Hall

4. RG AVT

5. DT Williams

6. CB1 Sauce

7. CB2 Reed
 

When I look at that list, I’m not sure we’ve ever had as much top end talent.

The key now is to shrewdly fill the remaining holes.  The OP is failing to see JD’s off-season plan across multiple position groups ….

[The Crusher]

29 minutes ago, JiF said:

The team as of 4/10 blows goats and plans on trading players and picks for a player who doesnt want to play and has zero invested interest in the success of the NY Jets.

If you listened to the podcast  he said he was only 90% retired. 10% of A-Rod is still better than the QB’s currently on the roster. 

[The Crusher]

22 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Season starts this Sunday?

If it did we would be eliminated from the post season by the 4th of July! 

[dbatesman]

ever hear of a guy called Aaron Rodgers? guess not

[T0mShane]

Wish I could root for a team with no holes ??????????

[T0mShane]

Name a member of the Chiefs secondary without Googling it challenge

[Irish Jet]

People buying into the Becton myth again will never not be hilarious.

[slats]

11 hours ago, Beerfish said:

The jets have falsely convinced themselves that they are just a good QB away from going all the way.  They needed one more year of development and adding more good players via the draft.

Holy crap, what a sad sack ****ing post this is. 
 
What would’ve been your plan for this season? A continuation of the 54 year rebuild? We’re *almost there*? What a bunch of garbage. 
 
It’s the rare team that looks like they’re going to win the Super Bowl in April and those that do often fail. You’ve got a young team featuring the ROYs on each side of the ball along with QW on his fifth year option (I want him resigned, but who knows where he’ll be next year?). The defense looked championship caliber for a good stretch last season, disastrous QB play is what held the team down. You don’t think now is a good time to trade for a QB who was league MVP in 2020 & ‘21? What do you think? We should put off getting the QB this season because multiple league MVPs are available every year for less than the cost of a first rounder? 
 
No way. Rodgers will obviously be a short term solution, but so were Brady on the Bucs and Stafford on the Rams. I’m a patient person, but enough’s enough. I like JD a lot, but he needs to put up some wins. Same with Saleh. This year is a chance for this entire organization to learn to believe in itself, at the very least. Either that, or we learn everyone’s a fraud. At some point you have to **** or get off the pot. 

[#27TheDominator]

12 hours ago, Morrissey said:

OT

C

DT

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JD has done a poor job so far this off-season addressing team needs. And this is assuming QB is figured out, but lets no focus on that right now.

Seems like a silly premise to me.  Where are they worse off than last year and how can they fix it? 

OT?  Same as last year, only Mitchell now has experience and AVT proved he can play well at T.

C?  Probably a downgrade, but McGovern is still out there and there are other options available.

DT? Probably a mild downgrade, but they added some pieces and have had other guys in that can play.  I certainly don't consider this a hole.

LB?  Alexander is still out there and I don't think they play 3 LB very often.  They still have Mosley and Williams.  As pointed out elsewhere, Chuck Clark probably slot in at "LB" equivalent fairly often.

S?  Joyner is still out there and they added Clark. Clark is probably a better player than Joyner, so is the issue free safety vs. strong safety?  Maybe they want more interchangeability?  I don't know if I love the S room, but I think MCII fits the Joyner role pretty well anyway.

WR?  You don't think Lazard is an upgrade over Moore?  WTF?  Moore was a promising WR with a big mouth and a problem in the locker room.  Moving on from him is a plus even if it is a shame to lose his potential. 

If you thought last year's team  was a super bowl team without a QB this is a silly post.  The roster won't be perfect 53 deep, but they should be able to field a team that would beat up on the 2022 Jets with moderately capable QB play.  If Rodgers plays like 2020 and 2021, they should be rolling.

 

[Greensleeves]

11 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

OT is not a hole.  Our QBs were all terrible last year

I agree - if our guys are healthy we have more than enough on the Oline. If they aren't healthy we need to grab one high. I just don't think in a win now team we should be drafting a left tackle to protect Rodgers his rookie year. One mistake and he could get hurt. We need a vet at left tackle. Maybe we could work a rookie into that spot but opening day would make me nervous. Becton being healthy would be best possible situation. We can grab a center in the second round. As for receiver, I think we are fine there - no holes. Wilson, Lazard, Hardman, Davis, Mims. Maybe draft a depth piece. Also, it's possible we have guys they have been developing that will be ready to step in as backups.

[FootballLove]

12 hours ago, Morrissey said:

OT

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DT

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JD has done a poor job so far this off-season addressing team needs. And this is assuming QB is figured out, but lets no focus on that right now.

meh...fans of all 32 can make the same list. But it's nice not having 'QB' at the top of our wish list

[ChrebetOverKeyshawn]

Not really worried, by Late August there may be a hole or two, but overall this will be one of the strongest rosters in the league. 

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

So continuing on, the Jets have 7 elite players with Rodgers AND ..

Very Good Starters:  DT JFM, CB3 Carter II

Very Good Specialists:  Edge Huff, DT Jefferson

Big Hole (as of April 10):  Center, Run Specialist DT

Below Average Starter:  LG Tomlinson

Don’t Sleep On:  Tony Adams as the starting FS

* It’s ok if the rest of the roster is average … but the Jets have intriguing talent elsewhere in JJ, Lawson, Clemons, Quincy, Becton … *

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JD’s off-season strategy is becoming clear to me.

1. Fine tune DL rotation and make more room for JJ & Clemons.  Move JFM inside full time, sign DT pass specialist Jefferson, look to add DT run specialist in Woods and/or via draft

2. Get faster at LB and improve TE coverage.  Trade for Chuck Clark + Draft

3. Continue to play more 2 deep zone + man, which is a better fit when you have elite corners.  (In 3 deep, you drop the 2 corners back).  Promote Tony Adams (former CB & elite RAS) + draft

4. Rebuild OL through Draft while adding a contingency replacement for Tomlinson.  Target versatile OT at #13 who can instantly upgrade LG (transitional year).  A guy like Skoronski.  Add top 3 draft class Center at #42/43.

2023 OL:  LT Brown, LG Skoronski, Center FA or #42/43, RG AVT, RT Becton or Mitchell

2024 OL Scenario A:  LT Becton, LG FA or Draft, Center  #42/43, RG AVT, RT Skoronski

2024 OL Scenario B:  LT Becton, LG Skoronski, Center  #42/43, RG AVT, RT Mitchell

2024 OL Scenario C:: LT Skoronski, LG FA or Draft, Center #42/43, RG AVT, RT Mitchell

[Gastineau Lives]

29 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Name a member of the Chiefs secondary without Googling it challenge

As much as I hate to admit it, this person just ended the thread with this post.

[AVM]

43 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

If you listened to the podcast  he said he was only 90% retired. 10% of A-Rod is still better than the QB’s currently on the roster. 

It's sad that I don't think this is a joke because it's incredibly true 

[Morrissey]

11 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

OT is not a hole.  Our QBs were all terrible last year

Then why is everyone and their mother plugging in a OT at 13th overall pick? Is it because a smart team would operate like Becton doesn't exist because he hasn't played in 2 years? is it because Brown is old as sh*t and was hurt most of last year?

[Morrissey]

38 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Name a member of the Chiefs secondary without Googling it challenge

You won't have to google Chiefs QB and HC

[The Crusher]

11 minutes ago, AVM said:

It's sad that I don't think this is a joke because it's incredibly true 

I’m trying to do the math to see if it’s individual or both of them combined.