If the tackles are off the board- what’s the move in Round 1?

[Matt39]

Bijan would get panned, but he’s pretty bust proof imo and we’ve seen Jonathan Stewart/Deangelo Williams work and further back Bo/Marcus Allen. Hall was the teams best player last year- pairing him with another star could be intriguing. Plus Hall can play receiver.

[UntouchableCrew]

Bijan is a stud but I think we have enough holes that spending a high pick on a RB makes very little sense with Hall on the roster.

If we go offensive playmaker (and there's a run on tackles) I think JSN is the obvious pick. I think he's going to be a total stud.

I think we're probably going DL/Edge if there's a run on offense though.

[long time suffering Jets f]

If he falls to us Jaxon Smith Njigha would be a no brainer.

[BigRy56]

Don’t sleep on the tight end position at 13. Adding a blue chip TE prospect like Mayer with the rest of the weapons would be awesome. He can block too so he would be able to help out a ton as an extension of the OL

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Don’t sleep on the tight end position at 13. Adding a blue chip TE prospect like Mayer with the rest of the weapons would be awesome. He can block too so he would be able to help out a ton as an extension of the OL

Would rather Kincaid

[Beerfish]

WR value should be there.  I could also see us stupidly drafting a DT or pass rusher.  If the tackles are gone then perhaps a trade down.

[Beerfish]

2 hours ago, BigRy56 said:

Don’t sleep on the tight end position at 13. Adding a blue chip TE prospect like Mayer with the rest of the weapons would be awesome. He can block too so he would be able to help out a ton as an extension of the OL

?  The Jets GM in the jet nation mock draft just got eviscerated in the mock draft forum by drafting Mayer after trading down a few spots.  I was not all that much upset but others were very upset at us taking a TE.

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

WR value should be there.  I could also see us stupidly drafting a DT or pass rusher.  If the tackles are gone then perhaps a trade down.

JSN is the only guy worthy and I’m guessing he’s off the board

[Barry McCockinner]

I'm not convinced T is a 1st round priority given AVT's versatility. I wouldn't be shocked if we took one but I don't believe it's the slam dunk everyone is suggesting it is.

I would be looking for the guys who can come in and provide the biggest immediate impact regardless of position. We are going for it with Rodgers right now. The only "must draft" position I see right now is C and starters can be had rounds 2-4.

[32EBoozer]

8 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Don’t sleep on the tight end position at 13. Adding a blue chip TE prospect like Mayer with the rest of the weapons would be awesome. He can block too so he would be able to help out a ton as an extension of the OL

You peaked at my JN Mock Draft… didn’t you?

[bitonti]

 

 

[Barry McCockinner]

3 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

?  The Jets GM in the jet nation mock draft just got eviscerated in the mock draft forum by drafting Mayer after trading down a few spots.  I as not all that much upset but others were very upset at us taking a TE.

If the Jets think Mayer is elite they should take him. We have good TE's, but no one would mistake them for elite. We're trying to win now and having an Elite TE can be a big difference maker for an offense (see Gronk, Kelce, Kittle), especially when they already have a dawg at WR & RB.

 

[UntouchableCrew]

2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I'm not convinced T is a 1st round priority given AVT's versatility. I wouldn't be shocked if we took one but I don't believe it's the slam dunk everyone is suggesting it is.

I would be looking for the guys who can come in and provide the biggest immediate impact regardless of position. We are going for it with Rodgers right now. The only "must draft" position I see right now is C and starters can be had rounds 2-4.

I think there's a lot of truth to this but I think it kind of depends how you view Becton and Brown. Obviously if they both stay healthy tackle isn't a "need" perse but there's a lot of reason for doubt and the inability to protect Rodgers could derail the season.

[32EBoozer]

2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I'm not convinced T is a 1st round priority given AVT's versatility. I wouldn't be shocked if we took one but I don't believe it's the slam dunk everyone is suggesting it is.

I would be looking for the guys who can come in and provide the biggest immediate impact regardless of position. We are going for it with Rodgers right now. The only "must draft" position I see right now is C and starters can be had rounds 2-4.

There is 2 Top Tier OT (top 12), followed by 5-6 Tier 2 OT (pick 18- 40) and another handful can be had into rd. 4

[nycdan]

If all three OTs are gone (which is possible but unlikely), and we assume at least 3 QBs, Anderson, Carter, Wilson, Porter, Gonzalez, and Van Ness are gone, that's the 12 slots ahead of us.  If Levis and Richardson both go, then it's highly improbable all three OTs go, but let's go with the scenario since that's what was proposed.

That leaves at the very least, JNS, Kincaid, and Darnell Wright.  Wright is probably closer to the top-3 OT than he is to the rest of the pack, and might be a fine pick there and could be a starting RT right away.  Honestly, I'd be content with any of the three, and I think a trade back to the late teens would be fantastic at that point but would be fine making the pick as well.

 

[UntouchableCrew]

1 minute ago, 32EBoozer said:

There is 2 Top Tier OT (top 12), followed by 5-6 Tier 2 OT (pick 18- 40) and another handful can be had into rd. 4

Who are you viewing as the top two?

Johnson and Skorosnki?

[nycdan]

7 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I'm not convinced T is a 1st round priority given AVT's versatility. I wouldn't be shocked if we took one but I don't believe it's the slam dunk everyone is suggesting it is.

I would be looking for the guys who can come in and provide the biggest immediate impact regardless of position. We are going for it with Rodgers right now. The only "must draft" position I see right now is C and starters can be had rounds 2-4.

I would guess that we are looking to draft a C in round 2, but also have Ben Jones on speed-dial and at least the makings of an agreement in place should that not work out.  

[Augustiniak]

In the unlikely scenario where all the really good tackles are gone by pick 13, i imagine douglas has scenarios where he trades back, grabs a guy at either C or DL he has rated as a first round talent, and then targets an OT in round 2. 

[JiFtheOracle]

Depends on who falls because there was a run on T.   Does that move Carter or Murphy or Wilson down to 13?  I'd take them w/ a T on the board still, so that would be an easy pivot.  I think you could consider your favorite WR or TE if you have one rated that high.  I'd personally, still consider a QB if you have one that high.  I dont love taking a RB that high but Robinson would be an exciting pick and solid insurance incase Hall is never himself again.  I also think you have to look at Nolan Smith and if he fits the system.  Even look at Kancey too. 

[Barry McCockinner]

4 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Who are you viewing as the top two?

Johnson and Skorosnki?

 

[nycdan]

6 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Who are you viewing as the top two?

Johnson and Skorosnki?

I have seen a complete jumble of Johnson, Jones, and Wright in the  2-3 slots after Skoronski across most of the more reliable draft site rankings.  Honestly, I'm starting to see it as a Big-4, not a Big-3.

 

[#27TheDominator]

From what I have seen of this draft class, if all these guys  are off the board I am thinking another corner might be my top choice.  Not popular or need based, but might end up the smart move IMO.  Obviously, that would probably make the smarter move a trade down, but you need to find a partner.  The Packers, perhaps?

[Barry McCockinner]

11 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I think there's a lot of truth to this but I think it kind of depends how you view Becton and Brown. Obviously if they both stay healthy tackle isn't a "need" perse but there's a lot of reason for doubt and the inability to protect Rodgers could derail the season.

I hear you. It's more of an insurance policy to have another T. I don't know that 13 overall is what you want to spend on an insurance policy when you're in win now mode but it is an important position. I see AVT as a sort of insurance policy in and of itself.

[Augustiniak]

Just now, nycdan said:

I have seen a complete jumble of Johnson, Jones, and Wright in the  2-3 slots after Skoronski across most of the more reliable draft site rankings.  Honestly, I'm starting to see it as a Big-4, not a Big-3.

 

In the end i think it’s going to be one of those situations where douglas wants one of those guys and if he takes his 4th favorite OT at 13 who he has ranked 15th overall he’s not going to overthink it.  The only real concern about not getting one of these guys is that the draft isn’t that strong at the top and teams may just default to taking linemen b/c they’re considered safer and there’s a bad run on them in the top 12. 

[UntouchableCrew]

1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I hear you. It's more of an insurance policy to have another T. I don't know that 13 overall is what you want to spend on an insurance policy when you're in win now mode but it is an important position. I see AVT as a sort of insurance policy in and of itself.

Well, if you're taking an OT at 13 I think it's more of a long term thing than just an insurance policy. Brown is 37 and we're likely not picking up Becton's option. I'd guess neither is on the roster in 2024.

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I hear you. It's more of an insurance policy to have another T. I don't know that 13 overall is what you want to spend on an insurance policy when you're in win now mode but it is an important position. I see AVT as a sort of insurance policy in and of itself.

It’s not an insurance policy when there’s a good chance that both becton and brown will not be on the 2024 roster. 

[section314]

In that scenario, the value might be Torrence or CB.

[32EBoozer]

5 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Who are you viewing as the top two?

Johnson and Skorosnki?

Yes, then B. Jones, Wright, Harrison & Dawand Jones at 2nd level.

Mauch, Duncan & Freeland next level. 
 

Considering all our OL are healthy, I can see OT being addressed at 42 or 43. Still thinking JD will look to trade back unless Carter, JSN or one of the top Edge is available 

[bitonti]

18 minutes ago, nycdan said:

If all three OTs are gone (which is possible but unlikely), and we assume at least 3 QBs, Anderson, Carter, Wilson, Porter, Gonzalez, and Van Ness are gone, that's the 12 slots ahead of us.  If Levis and Richards both go, then it's highly improbable all three OTs go, but let's go with the scenario since that's what was proposed.

That leaves at the very least, JNS, Kincaid, and Darnell Wright.  Wright is probably closer to the top-3 OT than he is to the rest of the pack, and might be a fine pick there and could be a starting RT right away.  Honestly, I'd be content with any of the three, and I think a trade back to the late teens would be fantastic at that point but would be fine making the pick as well.

 

Hot take Prediction by the time we get to the draft Darnell Wright will be OT 1 over Paris and Broderick 

Peter skoronski is a guard 

[Larz]

If there’s a run you are allowed to trade up. I checked. 

there are 4 OTs in the mix. All 4 being gone is possible I guess but not really likely. 
 

if they are gone who drops ? 
 

JSN?

Nolan Smith ?

Lukas Van Ness ?

Kincaid is possibility but Mayer is not top 20. Is Quentin Johnston a possibility? 
 

the jets will have 5 guys they like. It’s kind of the sweet spot in this draft   
 

the wild card just like every year is the QBs. If Levis and Richardson are gone, the jets are sitting pretty 

[section314]

2 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Hot take Prediction by the time we get to the draft Darnell Wright will be OT 1 over Paris and Broderick 

Peter skoronski is a guard 

Honest opinion… If Becton healthy, are any of these tackles as good as him?

[nycdan]

3 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Hot take Prediction by the time we get to the draft Darnell Wright will be OT 1 over Paris and Broderick 

Peter skoronski is a guard 

I'm giving that a chance.  None of them profile quite like Sewell or Neal.

[nycdan]

2 minutes ago, section314 said:

Honest opinion… If Becton healthy, are any of these tackles as good as him?

I don't think so.  Becton looked really good as a rookie and his physical attributes are pretty much cheat-code.  If the knees hold up, he could go right back to being a dominant talent.  Lots of ifs, but what a f-king great outcome that would be.

[Warfish]

43 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Don’t sleep on the tight end position at 13. Adding a blue chip TE prospect like Mayer with the rest of the weapons would be awesome. He can block too so he would be able to help out a ton as an extension of the OL

Please no.

[Bobby816]

Wright, JSN