Superbowl or bust?

[kmnj]

i keep reading and hearing from the "experts" that with Arod it is superbowl or bust. Arod has won just one his entire career and is not the same qb he once was. Joe is wasting money and picks to bring in a guy that will not reach the ultimate goal of a ring. They will be lucky even to get the result that they had with Farve. This is a panic move by Joe to try and save his job as he cant be the head of another losing season and he does not have the time to draft and develop a qb. The jets have brought in a big name player at the end of his career a bunch of times and it never pans out. Joe preached his entire tenure he was going to build the jets the right way for a long term future not a quick fix. Arod is the biggest example of a quick fix and is the exact opposite of what Joe has preached.  I would have traded for Lamar as he is young and very talented and is consistent with a long term vision, if not just draft a qb and right the wrong that is Zach Wilson and hope you hit it . What say you should Joe continue to build the team the "right " way or sacrifice the future for a quick fix and an attempt at self preservation?

 

 

 

 

 

[slimjasi]

I'm hoping to see a home playoff game again before I die

[Bobby816]

At least a deep run or 2 in the playoffs. SB would make it incredible. But let’s say we lose a very close AFCCG to KC and the to Philly in the SB a year. We tried to ale a run at the trophy and came close. 

[The Crusher]

I’m hoping to not consider going to cut grass after half time. 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

1 hour ago, kmnj said:

i keep reading and hearing from the "experts" that with Arod it is superbowl or bust. Arod has won just one his entire career and is not the same qb he once was. Joe is wasting money and picks to bring in a guy that will not reach the ultimate goal of a ring. They will be lucky even to get the result that they had with Farve. This is a panic move by Joe to try and save his job as he cant be the head of another losing season and he does not have the time to draft and develop a qb. The jets have brought in a big name player at the end of his career a bunch of times and it never pans out. Joe preached his entire tenure he was going to build the jets the right way for a long term future not a quick fix. Arod is the biggest example of a quick fix and is the exact opposite of what Joe has preached.  I would have traded for Lamar as he is young and very talented and is consistent with a long term vision, if not just draft a qb and right the wrong that is Zach Wilson and hope you hit it . What say you should Joe continue to build the team the "right " way or sacrifice the future for a quick fix and an attempt at self preservation?

 

 

 

 

 

It's not a " panic move " to aquire Aaron Frickin Rodgers, an all time great if you don't have a franchise QB and the opportunity presents itself.

 

It is irresponsible for Douglas to position himself where he is " all in" on Rodgers and only cares about this year or next. 

 

Zack Wilson is not a plan...

 

It's insane not to try and get Levis and to show guttenkurst he has other options 

[Hex]

This team went 5-4 with Zach Wilson last season. Now they have a better OC, hopefully a healthy OL, Breece Hall may be back in time for week 1, and a better WR lineup already. The defense is top-tier. Getting Aaron Rodgers will be very helpful in pushing this team towards contention

[Joe W. Namath]

Listen, u never know how the season is going to play out.  With rodgers, i think we get in as a 7th seed and get bounced by the bengals or chiefs in rnd 1.

But, rodgers is going to get traded for a 3rd.  So outside of his salary, its not costing us much.

Im warming up to the idea more and more as long as its a 3rd and no more.

[jtomm]

2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Listen, u never know how the season is going to play out.  With rodgers, i think we get in as a 7th seed and get bounced by the bengals or chiefs in rnd 1.

But, rodgers is going to get traded for a 3rd.  So outside of his salary, its not costing us much.

Im warming up to the idea more and more as long as its a 3rd and no more.

Possible  ^^

[Long Island Leprechaun]

Except that it is far more likely that this decision was Woody's, not Joe's. Joe is making it happen, but I strongly doubt he would have done so if the decision was entirely his. Not his MO. 

[Beerfish]

Step one save our jobs by making the playoffs and maybe more for a year or so

Step two save our jobs by having Zac Wilson adore his idol and suddenly get gud after two years of watching his idol play

The Jets and some fans to me have miss-read the tea leaves and think we have a really great team except for the missing piece QB.

This team is not finished being built and the AFC is currently a nightmare to get out of.

[Raideraholic]

5 hours ago, The Crusher said:

I’m hoping to not consider going to cut grass after half time. 

Well the jets are going to earn it . That pretty tough schedule they have next year .    They’re not going to be 12-5 season with that schedule.      You have to find a way to make the playoffs , and then get hot at the right time .( anything can happen).  No cupcakes on that schedule they play this year. 

[jtomm]

14 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

Well the jets are going to earn it . That pretty tough schedule they have next year .    They’re not going to be 12-5 season with that schedule.      You have to find a way to make the playoffs , and then get hot at the right time .( anything can happen).  No cupcakes on that schedule they play this year. 

[The Crusher]

20 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

Well the jets are going to earn it . That pretty tough schedule they have next year .    They’re not going to be 12-5 season with that schedule.      You have to find a way to make the playoffs , and then get hot at the right time .( anything can happen).  No cupcakes on that schedule they play this year. 

Give me 17 games of  competent competitive football and I’ll be happy. 

[nj meadowlands]

Super Bowl is two words.

[FidelioJet]

1 minute ago, The Crusher said:

Give me 17 games of  competent competitive football and I’ll be happy. 

This is correct. 

With the way JD has managed this off-season - this is not a Super Bowl team or even one that management expects to be a real contender and nor should the fan base.

But, if you're a fan and just happy to see competitive football with legend Aaron Rodgers as the QB - then great.  

Sure we're giving up a lot, but it'll be a fun summer and hopefully some excitement throughout the year.  Hard to begrudge Jet fans of just wanting to have a fun year.  Even if it costs 2 2nd round picks and $60mm for a year.   

As a fan of this franchise - that will be the best luxury you've had in over a decade.

[kevinc855]

6 hours ago, kmnj said:

Joe preached his entire tenure he was going to build the jets the right way for a long term future not a quick fix

Well he drafted Zach Wilson and he turned out to be a generational bust. That’s on joe. Is it a panic move? Not sure, but he doesn't have many other options. He decided to not pursue Carr hard enough and seems not interested in Lamar. So by default…..Rodgers. 
 

JD has been at the helm since before the 2019 season and the only GM in recent history to be this far in his tenure with zero winning record seasons. All joes mantra went out the door because his team didn’t have a qb and you need one in the nfl. 

[Hal N of Provo]

1 minute ago, kevinc855 said:

Well he drafted Zach Wilson and he turned out to be a generational bust. That’s on joe. Is it a panic move? Not sure, but he doesn't have many other options. He decided to not pursue Carr hard enough and seems not interested in Lamar. So by default…..Rodgers. 
 

JD has been at the helm since before the 2019 season and the only GM in recent history to be this far in his tenure with zero winning record seasons. All joes mantra went out the door because his team didn’t have a qb and you need one in the nfl. 

 

1st Ballot HoF QB.  

[jtomm]

5 minutes ago, Hal N of Provo said:

1st Ballot HoF QB.  

[SackExchangeNYJ]

This isn't about Super Bowl or bust. This is about the team maximizing both short-term and long-term opportunities. I think Joe Douglas would have preferred to have a team set, and then drafted a QB and take a run with that QB on a rookie deal. That did not work this time, largely because the team's best opportunity at a QB came before the rest of the roster was set. They had the second pick and a QB they liked (regardless of what anyone may think of Zach Wilson now). The timing was not ideal, but they took a shot. It obviously did not work.

Then the Jets hit big on some young talent, some excellent trades, and end up with a solid base of talent, much of it on rookie deals. That means the Jets can bring in a veteran QB now to take a shot in the short term. The team can also then draft a rookie QB, sit him for a year or so while the team competes with the veteran QB, and then step into a situation with a veteran team ready to win. 

So, no, this isn't win it in the next two years or the franchise is destroyed for a decade. This is make a run now, then suffer a bit of hurt with the cap in a couple years, then hopefully have a groomed QB on a rookie deal ready to step in with the talent that just got on their second contracts. 

[Larz]

This was supposed to be Zach’s “put it all together “ year. 
 

this is plan B

[sciond]

Giving up anything of value for AR is a SOJ move

worst contract in football and is not gonna bring a SB

JD should stay the course

[Joe W. Namath]

1 hour ago, sciond said:

Giving up anything of value for AR is a SOJ move

worst contract in football and is not gonna bring a SB

JD should stay the course

You sire are a very smart man.  

[Bobby816]

8 hours ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

It's not a " panic move " to aquire Aaron Frickin Rodgers, an all time great if you don't have a franchise QB and the opportunity presents itself.

 

It is irresponsible for Douglas to position himself where he is " all in" on Rodgers and only cares about this year or next. 

 

Zack Wilson is not a plan...

 

It's insane not to try and get Levis and to show guttenkurst he has other options 

Thanks for telling us as jets fans what we should think. Stay with your own kind.

[BurntDice]

9 hours ago, kmnj said:

i keep reading and hearing from the "experts" that with Arod it is superbowl or bust. Arod has won just one his entire career and is not the same qb he once was. Joe is wasting money and picks to bring in a guy that will not reach the ultimate goal of a ring. They will be lucky even to get the result that they had with Farve. This is a panic move by Joe to try and save his job as he cant be the head of another losing season and he does not have the time to draft and develop a qb. The jets have brought in a big name player at the end of his career a bunch of times and it never pans out. Joe preached his entire tenure he was going to build the jets the right way for a long term future not a quick fix. Arod is the biggest example of a quick fix and is the exact opposite of what Joe has preached.  I would have traded for Lamar as he is young and very talented and is consistent with a long term vision, if not just draft a qb and right the wrong that is Zach Wilson and hope you hit it . What say you should Joe continue to build the team the "right " way or sacrifice the future for a quick fix and an attempt at self preservation?

 

 

 

 

 

Football is the ultimate team sport. The only time Rodgers won a sb he had a top 10 d. I believe Brady only won with top 10 ds as well. 
 

With Rodgers the offense should average 21 points a game or higher. That alone would have won 4 more games last year. Throw in better offensive weapons and hopefully less injuries across the line and we’re in business. 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

42 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

Thanks for telling us as jets fans what we should think. Stay with your own kind.

It's beyond bizarre that jets fans are not pounding the table for Levis/ Stroud. Hell even hooker at 13 is a good choice. This is a good QB class

If the jets got Stroud and I was a jets fan I would be doing back flips. Id actually be more excited about Stroud than Rodgers

 

 

 

 

[Bobby816]

15 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

It's beyond bizarre that jets fans are not pounding the table for Levis/ Stroud. Hell even hooker at 13 is a good choice. This is a good QB class

If the jets got Stroud and I was a jets fan I would be doing back flips. Id actually be more excited about Stroud than Rodgers

 

 

 

 

Thank God you’re a Bills fan then 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

2 hours ago, Bobby816 said:

Thank God you’re a Bills fan then 

Don't come crying to me when Stroud is the next Warren Moon and throwing for 5000 yards every year 

[Bobby816]

10 hours ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

Don't come crying to me when Stroud is the next Warren Moon and throwing for 5000 yards every year 

I’m a Stroud fan. And he should go #1. So what does he have to do with the Jets? Absolutely nothing. So not sure why his name is being brought up. Will Anderson will be a star DE. Jets have no business talking about him bc he’s out of our range. 

[varjet]

The responsible move to keep the team moving on a long-term positive trajectory would have been a Jimmy G or Carr, particularly for what they were paid.   With either of those QBs we make it at least a round in the playoffs last year.  JD must have known that we were not going to get either of those guys.

Aaron Rodgers is the flashy sell ticket move, clearly.  The other QBs were not getting the Jets to the SB.  Rodgers has the best chance.  I think Woody really enjoyed the last 2 AFFCG runs, and the franchise got a lot of good press and momentum out of it.   I am not sure there is a long term plan, and I don’t know how we would afford a Zach new contract and Rodgers lingering cap hit, but I don’t know how much they are thinking about that.  

If JD really wants to make this happen and roll the dice, he overpays in 2024 draft picks but keeps our 2023 picks.  Our first three picks could be quality starters.  Add 3 new quality starters and find some hole filler (C, T, LB, S, WR), and with Rodgers this could be a top team. 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

I vote bust .

[kmnj]

On 4/15/2023 at 9:47 AM, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

It's not a " panic move " to aquire Aaron Frickin Rodgers, an all time great if you don't have a franchise QB and the opportunity presents itself.

 

It is irresponsible for Douglas to position himself where he is " all in" on Rodgers and only cares about this year or next. 

 

Zack Wilson is not a plan...

 

It's insane not to try and get Levis and to show guttenkurst he has other options 

Lamar would be a franchise qb arod is a short term rental who is not worth it 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

1 hour ago, kmnj said:

Lamar would be a franchise qb arod is a short term rental who is not worth it 

Lamar Jackson is not a franchise QB man

[kmnj]

1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

Lamar Jackson is not a franchise QB man

You are crazy 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

1 minute ago, kmnj said:

You are crazy 

Why does nobody want him. Why would I not want him ? 

 

Stop watching ESPN dude