Tony Pauline "can envision" Jets, Vikings Blockbuster Draft Trade

[TuscanyTile2]

https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/minnesota-vikings-nfl-draft-trade-rumors/

NFL Insider Tony Pauline of the Pro Football Network recently said he could envision the New York Jets trying to trade down in the first round of the 2023 NFL draft.

That is exactly what the team was able to pull off in a mock draft by The 33rd Team scouting department posted on Wednesday, April 12.

Minnesota Vikings receive: a 2023 first-round pick (No. 13 overall)

 

New York Jets receive: a 2023 first-round pick (No. 23 overall), a 2023 third-rounder (No. 87 overall), and a 2024 first-round draft choice

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Everyone wants to trade back in the draft, but it takes two to tango.

In this specific mock draft scenario from The 33rd Team, the Vikings would be aggressively moving up the board to select a quarterback of the future.

In rapid succession, three quarterbacks went off the board with the first three picks of the 2023 NFL draft. However, the fourth passer, Anthony Richardson of Florida, slipped all the way to No. 13.

Gang Green has its eyes set on acquiring Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers at some point this offseason so it’s unlikely they’d have interest in adding another passer in the first round.

However the same can’t be said for the Vikings who currently have Kirk Cousins penciled in as its starter. He is heading into the final year of his contract and Minnesota does not have a long-term answer at the quarterback position.

 

 

Pauline mentioned that the Jets could look to trade back from No. 13 and revealed that if they did they could be targeting a center prospect.

In this scenario, the Jets did exactly that by trading back and selecting Joe Tippmann out of Wisconsin.

“He has outstanding instincts and intelligence to be the voice of this offensive line for years to come,” The 33rd Team explained in its mock draft. “Assuming he’s snapping the ball to Aaron Rodgers, this feels like a good fit.”

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Evaluating the Jets-Vikings Trade According to Draft Chart

According to the NFL draft value chart, the Jets’ No. 13 overall pick is worth 1,150 points. The combination of picks the Vikings gave up via trade is worth over 1,915 points.

This was a clear overpay by the Vikings but that can often happen in trades like this.

NFL draft experts believe there is a top-tier group of four college football quarterbacks available in April’s draft. In this scenario, Richardson was the last one left on the board from that category.

If Minnesota was in love with the former Florida product they had to ensure they landed him even if that meant overpaying to land him.

No one with the Vikings will care what they gave up if Richardson ends up being a star. However, if the move flops then it will be heavily scrutinized how much they paid to move up. That is simply the nature of the game.

On the Gang Green side of things, they were able to recoup the third-rounder they lost in the Elijah Moore trade. Additionally, the green and white added to its future draft capital with a first-rounder in 2024.

 

 

 

[TuscanyTile2]

I'd be very happy if this was real but it's likely just clickbait

[JiFtheOracle]

I'd just take Richardson as your development QB and boot Zach to the moon but this would be pretty cool too, I guess.

 

[KRL]

I would have no problem with this, it would give us more picks to beef up our

roster and finally get rid of GB and complete the Rodgers trade

[32EBoozer]

19 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I'd be very happy if JD could pull this off (assuming it's real)

I’d take the OT at that spot. Either Harrison or Wright from Tenn. Either JSM, Wypler, or even Tippmann himself would be available at #42. I think Center is a reach at this point.

[32EBoozer]

1 minute ago, KRL said:

I would have no problem with this, it would give us more picks to beef up our

roster and finally get rid of GB and complete the Rodgers trade

I agree with the trade out…. not the selection 

[rtnelson]

I wouldn't be mad if this happened.  But I would be mad if our top tackle prospect we could have taken at 13, balls out, and a tackle we take at 23 ends up needing more time to be a viable starter.  (In the case that we would need the tackle prospect to keep the line intact, which is likely because Jets.)

[slats]

I was ready to uncontrollably vomit thinking this would be a Kirk Cousins trade, but this one I rather like. 

[Augustiniak]

Does not seem viable that one of those qbs makes it to 13.

[Integrity28]

I don’t hate trading back to the 20’s, or plugging the highest hole on OL with a first rounder. However, early 20’s might be a place we can grab Wright or one of the top DL… then a center at the top of 2. 

87 is going to also move us into a spot where TE, CB and IOL value can be found. 

13 dropping to 23 could be negligible, depending on our target and who is on the board at 13. Like say all 3 tier 1 OT are gone. Move back, refocus on the tier 1 at different position groups and net more picks. We need extra picks to flip for Aaron anyway… because someone convinced someone that a team that loses every game for two months with a playoff berth on the line is a “QB away”.

 

[Joe W. Namath]

Love it.  That would get us the 3rd round pick to trade for Rodgers.

[varjet]

I think this is the Jets’ leverage with Packers.   Maybe it is the plan.  If a developmental QB is there at 13, I think you take him and move on from Rodgers.  Zach and Boyle can play while Richardson learns.   

Richardson can be our answer to Josh Allen.  If the Jets pass on Richardson and he works out, I don’t think it will be good, but they did the same thing with Mahomes and Watson (Watson was considered a great citizen coming out of college).  

I don’t think the Jets should be trading up for a QB, but I would not trade out so they can pay Rodgers $110mm and draft picks for at best 2 years of play.  

[Asymmetrical]

32 minutes ago, varjet said:

I think this is the Jets’ leverage with Packers.   Maybe it is the plan.  If a developmental QB is there at 13, I think you take him and move on from Rodgers.  Zach and Boyle can play while Richardson learns.   

Richardson can be our answer to Josh Allen.  If the Jets pass on Richardson and he works out, I don’t think it will be good, but they did the same thing with Mahomes and Watson (Watson was considered a great citizen coming out of college).  

I don’t think the Jets should be trading up for a QB, but I would not trade out so they can pay Rodgers $110mm and draft picks for at best 2 years of play.  

This has a logic to it but Wilson/Boyle starting means that the Jets lose 10+ games again and everyone gets fired. Even if they're convinced Richardson is going to be great in a few years, the FO is in job saving mode. 

[Jet2020]

Jets trade away 1150 points

Vikings trade away 760, 155 and 590 (next years 1st = this years #32). That’s 1505 points. 
 

Won’t happen. Jets might be able to get a second from next year, not a 1st. 

[JohnnyLV]

13 minutes ago, Asymmetrical said:

This has a logic to it but Wilson/Boyle starting means that the Jets lose 10+ games again and everyone gets fired. Even if they're convinced Richardson is going to be great in a few years, the FO is in job saving mode. 

Not if Woody understands the plan

[JohnnyLV]

6 minutes ago, Jet2020 said:

Jets trade away 1150 points

Vikings trade away 760, 155 and 590 (next years 1st = this years #32). That’s 1505 points. 
 

Won’t happen. Jets might be able to get a second from next year, not a 1st. 

Trades for QBs are above the trade chart value. It's only a guideline

[PepPep]

38 minutes ago, varjet said:

I think this is the Jets’ leverage with Packers.   Maybe it is the plan.  If a developmental QB is there at 13, I think you take him and move on from Rodgers.  Zach and Boyle can play while Richardson learns.   

Richardson can be our answer to Josh Allen.  If the Jets pass on Richardson and he works out, I don’t think it will be good, but they did the same thing with Mahomes and Watson (Watson was considered a great citizen coming out of college).  

I don’t think the Jets should be trading up for a QB, but I would not trade out so they can pay Rodgers $110mm and draft picks for at best 2 years of play.  

Absolutely not. 

You have a golden opportunity to fulfill your plan to bring in Rodgers for a run while minimizing the draft capital you give up (so you can continue to build through the draft)...and you bail on it by starting Zach and instead, using your top pick on a developmental QB? 

I take this trade and run. Of course, it always depends on how the board falls. But passing on Richardson does not concern me when I'm getting a 1st rounder in 2024, a 3rd to finalize this Packers deal and bring in Rodgers and still have a comfortable spot in Rd. 1 where I can get an impact player. 

Of course, if Richardson ends up being Mahomes or Watson there will be regret. But unless the Jets really view Richardson as a can't miss prospect (or any other can't miss prospect on the board), they should take this trade. 

[Sarge4Tide]

I can envision myself making sweet sweet love to Margot Robbie.  Seems unlikely, but I can envision it. 

[32EBoozer]

46 minutes ago, varjet said:

I don’t think the Jets should be trading up for a QB, but I would not trade out so they can pay Rodgers $110mm and draft picks for at best 2 years of play.  

That could be something JD can use for compensation leverage but must be agreed upon before Jets pick

[T0mShane]

52 minutes ago, varjet said:

I think this is the Jets’ leverage with Packers.   Maybe it is the plan.  If a developmental QB is there at 13, I think you take him and move on from Rodgers.  Zach and Boyle can play while Richardson learns.   

Richardson can be our answer to Josh Allen.  If the Jets pass on Richardson and he works out, I don’t think it will be good, but they did the same thing with Mahomes and Watson (Watson was considered a great citizen coming out of college).  

I don’t think the Jets should be trading up for a QB, but I would not trade out so they can pay Rodgers $110mm and draft picks for at best 2 years of play.  

Richardson would get Saleh and Douglas fired and serve as an albatross in the resultant hiring cycle if Next Coach thinks they have to develop either him or Zach Wilson. 

[derp]

1 hour ago, Augustiniak said:

Does not seem viable that one of those qbs makes it to 13.

No more than three QB’s have ever gone top ten. They always get pushed up in mocks, but depending on how things fall there would be stranger things than QB4 sliding to 13.

Ultimately once a few come off the board the remaining teams with a need also kind of have to love whoever ends up being QB4 which I think is why guys sometimes slide.

Houston deciding to punt on QB, which has been rumored, would be a big domino there. Would need Detroit and Seattle to pass, which isn’t terribly unreasonable, and then one of Oakland and Tennessee to just not like whoever falls.

[BornJetsFan1983]

1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/minnesota-vikings-nfl-draft-trade-rumors/

NFL Insider Tony Pauline of the Pro Football Network recently said he could envision the New York Jets trying to trade down in the first round of the 2023 NFL draft.

That is exactly what the team was able to pull off in a mock draft by The 33rd Team scouting department posted on Wednesday, April 12.

Minnesota Vikings receive: a 2023 first-round pick (No. 13 overall)

 

New York Jets receive: a 2023 first-round pick (No. 23 overall), a 2023 third-rounder (No. 87 overall), and a 2024 first-round draft choice

---

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Everyone wants to trade back in the draft, but it takes two to tango.

In this specific mock draft scenario from The 33rd Team, the Vikings would be aggressively moving up the board to select a quarterback of the future.

In rapid succession, three quarterbacks went off the board with the first three picks of the 2023 NFL draft. However, the fourth passer, Anthony Richardson of Florida, slipped all the way to No. 13.

Gang Green has its eyes set on acquiring Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers at some point this offseason so it’s unlikely they’d have interest in adding another passer in the first round.

However the same can’t be said for the Vikings who currently have Kirk Cousins penciled in as its starter. He is heading into the final year of his contract and Minnesota does not have a long-term answer at the quarterback position.

 

 

Pauline mentioned that the Jets could look to trade back from No. 13 and revealed that if they did they could be targeting a center prospect.

In this scenario, the Jets did exactly that by trading back and selecting Joe Tippmann out of Wisconsin.

“He has outstanding instincts and intelligence to be the voice of this offensive line for years to come,” The 33rd Team explained in its mock draft. “Assuming he’s snapping the ball to Aaron Rodgers, this feels like a good fit.”

---

Evaluating the Jets-Vikings Trade According to Draft Chart

According to the NFL draft value chart, the Jets’ No. 13 overall pick is worth 1,150 points. The combination of picks the Vikings gave up via trade is worth over 1,915 points.

This was a clear overpay by the Vikings but that can often happen in trades like this.

NFL draft experts believe there is a top-tier group of four college football quarterbacks available in April’s draft. In this scenario, Richardson was the last one left on the board from that category.

If Minnesota was in love with the former Florida product they had to ensure they landed him even if that meant overpaying to land him.

No one with the Vikings will care what they gave up if Richardson ends up being a star. However, if the move flops then it will be heavily scrutinized how much they paid to move up. That is simply the nature of the game.

On the Gang Green side of things, they were able to recoup the third-rounder they lost in the Elijah Moore trade. Additionally, the green and white added to its future draft capital with a first-rounder in 2024.

 

 

 

I mean this or anything like it would be great. If we can turn our 1 into a later 1 and next year 1. That's the ticket for sure.

Another this year pick in there too? Sure ok.

If a QB does drop to us it is possible but I feel like it would go down just a.little bit earlier in the round

 

 

[BornJetsFan1983]

14 minutes ago, Jet2020 said:

Jets trade away 1150 points

Vikings trade away 760, 155 and 590 (next years 1st = this years #32). That’s 1505 points. 
 

Won’t happen. Jets might be able to get a second from next year, not a 1st. 

Moving up to in the first usually take next year 1 to make it happen. Point aside that's what it usually takes

[Beerfish]

The usual thought that this is the last year ever to have draftable qbs in the draft thus you must get one now!  There is no qb that is going to be there at 13 worth trading up for and having to give up a future first.  The jets should be trading for Cousins if anything.

[kevinc855]

Boy greens click bait posts are beyond ridiculous at times 

[BurntDice]

Pauline has proven to be 1 thing. Full of sh*t. The last few years he’s thrown so many darts and missed the board completely on most of them 

[Green Ghost]

The ‘24 first round pick goes to GB along with our 2nd this year. We get Rodgers and a Center.

There’s a lot of what if’s to this scenario, but I’d like to see it happen.

[T0mShane]

1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/minnesota-vikings-nfl-draft-trade-rumors/

NFL Insider Tony Pauline of the Pro Football Network recently said he could envision the New York Jets trying to trade down in the first round of the 2023 NFL draft.

That is exactly what the team was able to pull off in a mock draft by The 33rd Team scouting department posted on Wednesday, April 12.

Minnesota Vikings receive: a 2023 first-round pick (No. 13 overall)

 

New York Jets receive: a 2023 first-round pick (No. 23 overall), a 2023 third-rounder (No. 87 overall), and a 2024 first-round draft choice

---

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Everyone wants to trade back in the draft, but it takes two to tango.

In this specific mock draft scenario from The 33rd Team, the Vikings would be aggressively moving up the board to select a quarterback of the future.

In rapid succession, three quarterbacks went off the board with the first three picks of the 2023 NFL draft. However, the fourth passer, Anthony Richardson of Florida, slipped all the way to No. 13.

Gang Green has its eyes set on acquiring Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers at some point this offseason so it’s unlikely they’d have interest in adding another passer in the first round.

However the same can’t be said for the Vikings who currently have Kirk Cousins penciled in as its starter. He is heading into the final year of his contract and Minnesota does not have a long-term answer at the quarterback position.

 

 

Pauline mentioned that the Jets could look to trade back from No. 13 and revealed that if they did they could be targeting a center prospect.

In this scenario, the Jets did exactly that by trading back and selecting Joe Tippmann out of Wisconsin.

“He has outstanding instincts and intelligence to be the voice of this offensive line for years to come,” The 33rd Team explained in its mock draft. “Assuming he’s snapping the ball to Aaron Rodgers, this feels like a good fit.”

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Evaluating the Jets-Vikings Trade According to Draft Chart

According to the NFL draft value chart, the Jets’ No. 13 overall pick is worth 1,150 points. The combination of picks the Vikings gave up via trade is worth over 1,915 points.

This was a clear overpay by the Vikings but that can often happen in trades like this.

NFL draft experts believe there is a top-tier group of four college football quarterbacks available in April’s draft. In this scenario, Richardson was the last one left on the board from that category.

If Minnesota was in love with the former Florida product they had to ensure they landed him even if that meant overpaying to land him.

No one with the Vikings will care what they gave up if Richardson ends up being a star. However, if the move flops then it will be heavily scrutinized how much they paid to move up. That is simply the nature of the game.

On the Gang Green side of things, they were able to recoup the third-rounder they lost in the Elijah Moore trade. Additionally, the green and white added to its future draft capital with a first-rounder in 2024.

 

 

 

Based on their visits, Shmitz would probably be the pick here, but Tippman brings special size and positional versatility. Love the trade because all of Skoronski, Paris Jackson, and Broderick Jones are off the board, and instead of just taking OT4, the Jets set themselves up in 2024 in case Rodgers bounces.
 

That Vikings first could end up being very high for two reasons:

1. There’s been a steady Cousins-to the Niners trade rumor out there because Shanahan loves him, while the Vikings know their roster is not all that competitive despite the record. They’re already pushing Dalvin Cook out, and they could net a package of picks (and maybe Aiyuk) in a deal for Cousins. 

2. Even if they keep Cousins, that receiver group low-key hates him and they’d rally around Richardson after a few 70 yard bombs in camp. Dissension that results in Richardson starting early= Too Five Pick, baby. 

 

[T0mShane]

31 minutes ago, Jet2020 said:

Jets trade away 1150 points

Vikings trade away 760, 155 and 590 (next years 1st = this years #32). That’s 1505 points. 
 

Won’t happen. Jets might be able to get a second from next year, not a 1st. 

Caveat to this is that the Vikings GM is the ultimate analytics guy who uses his own chart for trades. IIRC, it falls more in line with the Fitzgerald-Spielberger chart. 

[LockeJET]

I’d be perfectly OK with this trade, especially if we get two years out of Rodgers. Use all the extra draft picks to fill in the few spots open. Try to make a deep run this year and then really go for it next year. Even if we only get two years out of Rodgers, we’ll still be able to move forward immediately after.

[jtomm]

2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-jets/minnesota-vikings-nfl-draft-trade-rumors/

NFL Insider Tony Pauline of the Pro Football Network recently said he could envision the New York Jets trying to trade down in the first round of the 2023 NFL draft.

That is exactly what the team was able to pull off in a mock draft by The 33rd Team scouting department posted on Wednesday, April 12.

Minnesota Vikings receive: a 2023 first-round pick (No. 13 overall)

 

New York Jets receive: a 2023 first-round pick (No. 23 overall), a 2023 third-rounder (No. 87 overall), and a 2024 first-round draft choice

---

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Everyone wants to trade back in the draft, but it takes two to tango.

In this specific mock draft scenario from The 33rd Team, the Vikings would be aggressively moving up the board to select a quarterback of the future.

In rapid succession, three quarterbacks went off the board with the first three picks of the 2023 NFL draft. However, the fourth passer, Anthony Richardson of Florida, slipped all the way to No. 13.

Gang Green has its eyes set on acquiring Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers at some point this offseason so it’s unlikely they’d have interest in adding another passer in the first round.

However the same can’t be said for the Vikings who currently have Kirk Cousins penciled in as its starter. He is heading into the final year of his contract and Minnesota does not have a long-term answer at the quarterback position.

 

 

Pauline mentioned that the Jets could look to trade back from No. 13 and revealed that if they did they could be targeting a center prospect.

In this scenario, the Jets did exactly that by trading back and selecting Joe Tippmann out of Wisconsin.

“He has outstanding instincts and intelligence to be the voice of this offensive line for years to come,” The 33rd Team explained in its mock draft. “Assuming he’s snapping the ball to Aaron Rodgers, this feels like a good fit.”

---

Evaluating the Jets-Vikings Trade According to Draft Chart

According to the NFL draft value chart, the Jets’ No. 13 overall pick is worth 1,150 points. The combination of picks the Vikings gave up via trade is worth over 1,915 points.

This was a clear overpay by the Vikings but that can often happen in trades like this.

NFL draft experts believe there is a top-tier group of four college football quarterbacks available in April’s draft. In this scenario, Richardson was the last one left on the board from that category.

If Minnesota was in love with the former Florida product they had to ensure they landed him even if that meant overpaying to land him.

No one with the Vikings will care what they gave up if Richardson ends up being a star. However, if the move flops then it will be heavily scrutinized how much they paid to move up. That is simply the nature of the game.

On the Gang Green side of things, they were able to recoup the third-rounder they lost in the Elijah Moore trade. Additionally, the green and white added to its future draft capital with a first-rounder in 2024.

^^  Not gonna happen. If it does.. cool. 

[Larz]

Richardson is going to the colts. The titans pick is pretty big for us. If they take Levis we’ll have multiple studs to pick from 

[FidelioJet]

If they can trade down 10 spaces and pick up a 1 next year.  

It gives you some of the ammo you'll need to move up to get a QB.  

 

[Rhg1084]

If they wanna give us a 3rd this year and another 1 next year to move up 10 spots by all means they can have pick 13

[Sperm Edwards]

On 4/16/2023 at 9:51 AM, varjet said:

I think this is the Jets’ leverage with Packers.   Maybe it is the plan.  If a developmental QB is there at 13, I think you take him and move on from Rodgers.  Zach and Boyle can play while Richardson learns.   

Richardson can be our answer to Josh Allen.  If the Jets pass on Richardson and he works out, I don’t think it will be good, but they did the same thing with Mahomes and Watson (Watson was considered a great citizen coming out of college).  

I don’t think the Jets should be trading up for a QB, but I would not trade out so they can pay Rodgers $110mm and draft picks for at best 2 years of play.  

Popular as the idea is with some here, they're clearly not doing that. 

They are all-in on Rodgers, and the final compensation is just a matter of which side flinches first. 

They want this to happen; those in favor of taking a QB in the draft instead aren't in favor of Rodgers, which is opposed to what the coaches, GM, owner, etc. want. It's not happening. 

There is no way they're going with Zach and Boyle while a developmental QB sits on the bench for a year or two. No chance whatsoever. Like not even a 1% chance. It's the exact opposite of their announced offseason plan of having a veteran starting this season.