QBs expected to drop in this draft

[Rhg1084]

I mean I wouldn’t be against trading 13,42, and 43 to get up to 4 for CJ Stroud. Screw 40 year old Rodgers, and reset the rookie QB contract for us.

[The Crusher]

Thank you Zach Wilson, thank you! 

[derp]

I think the goal would be to get ahead of Indy, not trade with them.

[Rhg1084]

8 minutes ago, derp said:

I think the goal would be to get ahead of Indy, not trade with them.

Do you think 13, 42 and 43 is enough to move up to pick 3? If we can FINALLY hit on a franchise QB that would definitely be nice instead of getting the band aid in Rodgers. And obviously a lot more financial flexibility in the immediate future. But this is a “win now” team so I can’t blame them for wanting to bring in Rodgers either. If Stroud was somehow available to us it would be intriguing however.

[Matt39]

I mean I would be shocked if the Jets decided to pivot and go QB. This would take some guts which historically this franchise doesn’t go for. Although I’d be hesitant to go all in on an Ohio State guy who played on an all star team. Add on some coachability concerns. 

[T0mShane]

20 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

I mean I wouldn’t be against trading 13,42, and 43 to get up to 4 for CJ Stroud. Screw 40 year old Rodgers, and reset the rookie QB contract for us.

Schefter is carrying water here, but these quarterbacks are not great prospects, relatively speaking. If you’re a bad team, you are so much better off staying in the Caleb Williams/Drake Maye lottery than entrusting your career to an Ohio State QB who crumbles when pressured or Anthony Richardson who has the accuracy of a JUGS machine propped up on a waterbed. 

[derp]

42 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Do you think 13, 42 and 43 is enough to move up to pick 3? If we can FINALLY hit on a franchise QB that would definitely be nice instead of getting the band aid in Rodgers. And obviously a lot more financial flexibility in the immediate future. But this is a “win now” team so I can’t blame them for wanting to bring in Rodgers either. If Stroud was somehow available to us it would be intriguing however.

I don’t think it’d be enough to move up to 3. I am generally a proponent of young QB and get the appeal, just think if somebody’s falling it’d need to be farther than that.

[David Harris]

SI says Young is going one overall

i’d be very surprised if Houston didn’t go Stroud

[Augustiniak]

9 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Schefter is carrying water here, but these quarterbacks are not great prospects, relatively speaking. If you’re a bad team, you are so much better off staying in the Caleb Williams/Drake Maye lottery than entrusting your career to an Ohio State QB who crumbles when pressured or Anthony Richardson who has the accuracy of a JUGS machine propped up on a waterbed. 

Trading up for Richardson will get you fired.

[T0mShane]

24 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

I mean I would be shocked if the Jets decided to pivot and go QB. This would take some guts which historically this franchise doesn’t go for. Although I’d be hesitant to go all in on an Ohio State guy who played on an all star team. Add on some coachability concerns. 

I’ve read Stroud’s deal is that he’s been an Elite 11 kid since he was 14, but he’s kind of a beta personality, which you could see being off-putting in the interview process. You can’t fake leadership. 

[The Crusher]

11 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

Trading up for Richardson will get you fired.

Then drafting Zach at #2 should have gotten you murdered. 

[Matt39]

12 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I’ve read Stroud’s deal is that he’s been an Elite 11 kid since he was 14, but he’s kind of a beta personality, which you could see being off-putting in the interview process. You can’t fake leadership. 

If there’s a bust in this draft, it’s him imo. The only QB I really like is Young though. Herndon would be my second guy.

[Cut Jet Penalty Makers]

54 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

I mean I would be shocked if the Jets decided to pivot and go QB. This would take some guts which historically this franchise doesn’t go for. Although I’d be hesitant to go all in on an Ohio State guy who played on an all star team. Add on some coachability concerns. 

I wouldn't be shocked at all...and I've been advocating that here but so many are conditioned and cannot process anything that differs from the "but, but ,but Rodgers says he intends to play here" and "JD said so" mantra. Get Hooker.

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said:

I wouldn't be shocked at all...and I've been advocating that here but so many are conditioned and cannot process anything that differs from the "but, but ,but Rodgers says he intends to play here" and "JD said so" mantra. 

The Jets are also conditioned to think this way. 

[BurntDice]

I don’t want to draft another qb high right now. I’m so tired of rebuilding and having a young qb play thru growing pains.  If Rodgers comes then bring in guys who will help him (a backup qb will not). If no Rodgers then trade for someone else like Lamar

[Green Ghost]

Stroud has been my dream pick since his season ended.

[Untouchable]

You people need to seriously gather your bearings.

We’re getting Rodgers.

Stop this silly sh*t about the Jets drafting a 1st round QB.

Hell, Bijan Robinson is a more worthwhile discussion than any of Young, Stroud, Levis, Richardson or Hooker.

[hawk]

59 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Schefter is carrying water here, but these quarterbacks are not great prospects, relatively speaking. If you’re a bad team, you are so much better off staying in the Caleb Williams/Drake Maye lottery than entrusting your career to an Ohio State QB who crumbles when pressured or Anthony Richardson who has the accuracy of a JUGS machine propped up on a waterbed. 

[varjet]

49 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Then drafting Zach at #2 should have gotten you murdered. 

At least to me, there is a difference between trading up to get a QB, and just stinking and picking a QB with your assigned draft slot.

The draft capital given up for Darnold was not great.  Taking a chance on Zach with only one pick is somehow less bad, but either pick is supposed to get the GM fired. 

The Jets, with the number 2 pick in each round, walked away with Wilson and Elijah Moore.  The players picked after Moore were very, very good.  That was actually a terrible pick, almost as bad as Wilson.  

[Larz]

This is a super boring draft. This is the best storyline they can think of, “this is the year QBs won’t be ridiculously over-drafted “

[undertow]

Houston is taking either Stroud or Young but I wouldn't be surprised if Richardson and Levis drop..... Richardson got a quick push in the media that dumb people jumped on but the guy isn't a top 10 pick.

[Flashlite80]

If the right player drops, would it make sense to move up?  I would say yes, as far as number 8.  We could trade 13 and 42 for 8 and 72.  If that got us the player we want, we would still have a second rounder at 43 and a third rounder at 72.

If the player is a QB, then we are out on Rodgers.  If it is a non-QB, then 43 probably goes to Green Bay.

I wonder if someone we believe could be a franchise QB were that player, if it would be wise to pass.  Those opportunities are few and far between.  A rookie QB would cost over $80MM less over the next 2 years.  It would leave us with 2 additional high picks.  Suppose we just sign a Ryan or Bridgewater.  Make the playoffs while we load up more solid young talent.  If that QB or Zach become a real franchise QB, we could be set for 15 years and avoid 2 years of salary cap hell and the risk that comes with betting the next 4 years on a 39 year old QB ( 2 years salary and 2 year salary cap hell).

[T0mShane]

51 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

If there’s a bust in this draft, it’s him imo. The only QB I really like is Young though. Herndon would be my second guy.

I think, if he puts it together, he can be a Derek Carr type guy, but if someone drafts him as their franchise savior, good luck to em

[T0mShane]

27 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

You people need to seriously gather your bearings.

We’re getting Rodgers.

Stop this silly sh*t about the Jets drafting a 1st round QB.

Hell, Bijan Robinson is a more worthwhile discussion than any of Young, Stroud, Levis, Richardson or Hooker.

Yeah, they are all in on Rodgers and they’re going to use their picks to build a wall around him on the OL, and probably a few more picks on a backup wall for him. 

[Lurker89]

2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

I mean I wouldn’t be against trading 13,42, and 43 to get up to 4 for CJ Stroud. Screw 40 year old Rodgers, and reset the rookie QB contract for us.

I'm just glad you didn't say Will Levis...

 

But still no ... I don't love this years crop at all... major question marks on each prospect.

[Lurker89]

1 hour ago, The Crusher said:

Then drafting Zach at #2 should have gotten you murdered. 

I'm loving this version if you ?.... how many missed meals did it take to get you this ornery?

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Lurker89 said:

I'm loving this version if you ?.... how many missed meals did it take to get you this ornery?

5 minutes late 

[Beerfish]

JetNation just completed mock draft:

1 - CJ Stroud

2 - Will Anderson

3- Jalen Carter

4 - Bryce Young

[Beerfish]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I’ve read Stroud’s deal is that he’s been an Elite 11 kid since he was 14, but he’s kind of a beta personality, which you could see being off-putting in the interview process. You can’t fake leadership. 

As I said last week these things are funny a week ago Levis was being squashed for being over confident cocky a$$hole.  It's like these front offices have a goldilocks zone of "We want you to be a cocky a$$hole but not too cocky, and not too quiet and just the right amount of thinking you are the greatest.

[FootballLove]

Just seeing who's at #1, we could probably trade up from 13 for Zack Wilson and maybe a 5th rounder. Joe owns them guys!

[T0mShane]

25 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

As I said last week these things are funny a week ago Levis was being squashed for being over confident cocky a$$hole.  It's like these front offices have a goldilocks zone of "We want you to be a cocky a$$hole but not too cocky, and not too quiet and just the right amount of thinking you are the greatest.

I think player personality is just such a subjective thing and some execs/owners handle it differently. To whit, the Jets like their quarterbacks to be humble yes-sir-no-sir types whom Woody can feel comfortable bringing to his country club. That said, I think a lot of Levis slander is based on the draft bro community thinking his TikToks are stupid, so he must be a huge douche, and this becomes the conventional wisdom because draft bro Twitter is the ultimate hive mind. Ditto the affection for Anthony Richardson, because one of them disseminated a few gifs of Richardson climbing the pocket, which is obviously portentous of how he’ll develop as a pro. Draft time is the dumbest of all times.

[Untouchable]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Yeah, they are all in on Rodgers and they’re going to use their picks to build a wall around him on the OL, and probably a few more picks on a backup wall for him. 

I’m not a betting man, but if I was, I’d say Skoronski is a damn good bet for #13.

I don’t really care if his arms are an inch shorter than standard.

For the last two years I’ve heard about the Jets wanting to get tougher and more physical up front and Skoronski fits that bill more than Johnson and Jones. I’d also wager that even though being the most sure-fire quality starter among that group, he still has the best odds of lasting to #13 because of a perceived best fit on the interior.

Worst comes to worst, the Jets have a pair of pro-bowl quality guards come 2024 who can slide outside in a pinch and you could put Lizzo at center and it wouldn’t matter. 

[derp]

11 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think player personality is just such a subjective thing and some execs/owners handle it differently. To whit, the Jets like their quarterbacks to be humble yes-sir-no-sir types whom Woody can feel comfortable bringing to his country club. That said, I think a lot of Levis slander is based on the draft bro community thinking his TikToks are stupid, so he must be a huge douche, and this becomes the conventional wisdom because draft bro Twitter is the ultimate hive mind. Ditto the affection for Anthony Richardson, because one of them disseminated a few gifs of Richardson climbing the pocket, which is obviously portentous of how he’ll develop as a pro. Draft time is the dumbest of all times.

I caught a bit of Levis at the end of their game against Ole Miss when he had an opportunity to make some plays late in the game but had terrible pocket awareness and completely crumbled, so that’s kind of stuck with me.

Obviously there’s the deep dive love for Richardson as well, but at the end of the day both guys are upside swings who were up and down in the SEC with mediocre supporting casts and had inconsistencies with accuracy. One has better tools and will turn 21 a few months before the season, the other has more experience in a pro style offense and will turn 24 a few months before the season. 

[derp]

5 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

I’m not a betting man, but if I was, I’d say Skoronski is a damn good bet for #13.

I don’t really care if his arms are an inch shorter than standard.

For the last two years I’ve heard about the Jets wanting to get tougher and more physical up front and Skoronski fits that bill more than Johnson and Jones. I’d also wager that even though being the most sure-fire quality starter among that group, he still has the best odds of lasting to #13 because of a perceived best fit on the interior.

Worst comes to worst, the Jets have a pair of pro-bowl quality guards come 2024 who can slide outside in a pinch and you could put Lizzo at center and it wouldn’t matter. 

I think they’re closer to two inches short than one inch short. Good bet he’s AVT - high level guard, average tackle. That’s more valuable at guard, so he probably plays guard. Jets are stuck with Tomlinson this year.

They want to get tougher and more physical that could be Darnell Wright, who I think has more love off this site than on it.

[bla bla bla]

2 hours ago, undertow said:

Houston is taking either Stroud or Young but I wouldn't be surprised if Richardson and Levis drop..... Richardson got a quick push in the media that dumb people jumped on but the guy isn't a top 10 pick.

I'd be surprised if he fell past the Raiders. Remember, McDaniels is the guy who drafted Tebow in the 1st round. I could 100% see them going that route with Richardson learning for a year or 2 behind Jimmy G.