The Aaron Rodgers Decline

[FidelioJet]

As we all know Aaron Rodgers will be 40 this year - and most understand he had his worst year as a pro. 

In the 15 years he's started 2008 to 2022.  He missed substantial time in 2013 (9 games played) and 2017 (7 games played) So we'll put those asides.

Here are some basic points worthy of noting...

• Lowest total yards (in 17 games vs. 16 in the past) 
• Lowest Rating
• Most INTs other than his first year as a starter - by A LOT (Almost more than the past three years combined)
• ZERO 300 yard games (only year he's done that)
• 2nd lowest total TD's (tied for 2nd lowest)

I'm sure there are plenty more concerns - as these are just basic stats from the chart below.

Now I hear a lot of excuses but the two main ones:

• He had a bad finger for 5 games
• All he had at WR was a highly drafted rookie and Allen Lazard

Certainly you're all welcome to come to your own conclusions - but the most obvious and realistic one is Aaron Rodgers is getting old and it's showing in his game.  Once that starts to happen it almost always gets worse, fast.   I'm hoping Rodgers defy's the odds and returns to form, that would be amazing, but I do think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned.

[IndianaJet]

You work really hard to be as miserable as possible don't you?

 

 

[The Crusher]

1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

As we all know Aaron Rodgers will be 40 this year - and most understand he had his worst year as a pro. 

In the 15 years he's started 2008 to 2022.  He missed substantial time in 2013 (9 games played) and 2017 (7 games played) So we'll put those asides.

Here are some basic points worthy of noting...

• Lowest total yards (in 17 games vs. 16 in the past) 
• Lowest Rating
• Most INTs other than his first year as a starter - by A LOT (Almost more than the past three years combined)
• ZERO 300 yard games (only year he's done that)
• 2nd lowest total TD's (tied for 2nd lowest)

I'm sure there are plenty more concerns - as these are just basic stats from the chart below.

Now I hear a lot of excuses but the two main ones:

• He had a band finger for 5 games
• All he had at WR was a highly drafted rookie and Allen Lazard

Certainly you're all welcome to come to your own conclusions - but the most obvious and realistic one is Aaron Rodgers is getting old and it's showing in his game.  Once that starts to happen it almost always gets worse, fast.   I'm hoping Rodgers defy's the odds and returns to form, that would be amazing, but I do think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned.

Still better than Zach. 

[shuler82]

So an aging QB with a broken thumb had his worst statistical season..which would still rank as a top 5 QB season in Jets history?  
 

[FidelioJet]

1 minute ago, The Crusher said:

Still better than Zach. 

True, but it is much easier to spend your time sh*tting on the team's QB.  

[FidelioJet]

Just now, shuler82 said:

So an aging QB with a broken thumb had his worst statistical season..which would still rank as a top 5 QB season in Jets history?  
 

I didn't realize the goal was to be good for a Jet QB.  Sure, I'm on board with that assessment.  But I'm continually told this is a legitimate Super Bowl contending team.

It's not.

[shuler82]

51 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I didn't realize the goal was to be good for a Jet QB.  Sure, I'm on board with that assessment.  But I'm continually told this is a legitimate Super Bowl contending team.

It's not.

You seem to be in the minority on this. The thought all last season was if the Jets had a solid NFL caliber QB they’d be contenders. Now they have one.

AFC is brutal, no doubt. But if we can compete with the Bills and Bengals of the world with Wilson, Flacco and White, we can certainly do better with Rodgers.. no?

[JiFtheOracle]

8 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Still better than Zach. 

Fido leaning into this angle is going to be very juicy this offseason. 

[Scott Dierking]

Band Finger

10 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

 

• He had a band finger for 5 games

 

[jetblue95]

now do tom brady's last 2 seasons in NE and his first two seasons in TB (at an older age than rodgers is)

also, christian watson was a 2nd round pick (and considered very raw coming out of north dakota state) and romeo dobbs was a 4th round pick out of nevada.  not sure either qualifies as a highly drafted WR, at least if the attempt is to compare them to garrett wilson, a top 10 pick out of ohio $tate

considering the guy won back-to-back MVPs in the two seasons before 2022, it would be odd that he just suddenly hit a cliff and his talent and abilities went downhill so fast.  in 2020-2021, he had 85 TDs and 9 Ints.  and the next year he was washed up???

[Tranquilo]

Does it matter if you think they're a Super Bowl contender or not? They had like 7 wins last year with basically nothing at QB. They're better at the position. They'll be better. How much better is splitting hairs. In the NFL, you just need to be in the mix.

[Rhg1084]

 

We have gone from complete ineptitude at the position to elite production. Not sure how anyone can be upset about adding Aaron Rodgers?

[JiFtheOracle]

Just for the sake of concern that a player 1 year removed from back to back MVP seasons is on a steady decline, the NY Jets entire offense scored 28 TD's last season, Aaron Rodgers accounted for 27,

[jgb]

This is funny coming from someone who excused Zach's bottom-of-the-league performance by lack o' dem weaponz.

[choon328]

13 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

As we all know Aaron Rodgers will be 40 this year - and most understand he had his worst year as a pro. 

In the 15 years he's started 2008 to 2022.  He missed substantial time in 2013 (9 games played) and 2017 (7 games played) So we'll put those asides.

Here are some basic points worthy of noting...

• Lowest total yards (in 17 games vs. 16 in the past) 
• Lowest Rating
• Most INTs other than his first year as a starter - by A LOT (Almost more than the past three years combined)
• ZERO 300 yard games (only year he's done that)
• 2nd lowest total TD's (tied for 2nd lowest)

I'm sure there are plenty more concerns - as these are just basic stats from the chart below.

Now I hear a lot of excuses but the two main ones:

• He had a band finger for 5 games
• All he had at WR was a highly drafted rookie and Allen Lazard

Certainly you're all welcome to come to your own conclusions - but the most obvious and realistic one is Aaron Rodgers is getting old and it's showing in his game.  Once that starts to happen it almost always gets worse, fast.   I'm hoping Rodgers defy's the odds and returns to form, that would be amazing, but I do think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned.

You did this all yesterday. Give it a rest

[jgb]

Just now, JiF said:

Just for the sake of concern that a player 1 year removed from back to back MVP seasons is on a steady decline, the NY Jets entire offense scored 28 TD's last season, Aaron Rodgers accounted for 27,

Aaron Rodgers could decline 40% and still be the best Jets QB of my lifetime.

[ganggreen305]

Let us be happy for 5 minutes please.

[mphtrilogy]

MVP 2 of the last 3 season, I will take that decline any day of the week

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Most_Valuable_Player_Award

[Larz]

[LAJohn]

10 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I didn't realize the goal was to be good for a Jet QB.  Sure, I'm on board with that assessment.  But I'm continually told this is a legitimate Super Bowl contending team.

It's not.

How do you know it’s not? I don’t think anyone had the Bengals in the Super Bowl two years ago 

[More Cowbell]

15 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

As we all know Aaron Rodgers will be 40 this year - and most understand he had his worst year as a pro. 

In the 15 years he's started 2008 to 2022.  He missed substantial time in 2013 (9 games played) and 2017 (7 games played) So we'll put those asides.

Here are some basic points worthy of noting...

• Lowest total yards (in 17 games vs. 16 in the past) 
• Lowest Rating
• Most INTs other than his first year as a starter - by A LOT (Almost more than the past three years combined)
• ZERO 300 yard games (only year he's done that)
• 2nd lowest total TD's (tied for 2nd lowest)

I'm sure there are plenty more concerns - as these are just basic stats from the chart below.

Now I hear a lot of excuses but the two main ones:

• He had a band finger for 5 games
• All he had at WR was a highly drafted rookie and Allen Lazard

Certainly you're all welcome to come to your own conclusions - but the most obvious and realistic one is Aaron Rodgers is getting old and it's showing in his game.  Once that starts to happen it almost always gets worse, fast.   I'm hoping Rodgers defy's the odds and returns to form, that would be amazing, but I do think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned.

3695, 20 TD, 12 picks 91 rating.

If Zach had these numbers,  people would be creaming in there pants

[LAJohn]

4 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

 

We have gone from complete ineptitude at the position to elite production. Not sure how anyone can be upset about adding Aaron Rodgers?

Seriously. They are going from young kids like Darnold and Zach to literally one of the best ever to play the position. When the game is on the line Rodgers will at least know what to do. 

[Trotter]

2 minutes ago, ganggreen305 said:

Let us be happy for 5 minutes please.

Nope.

not allowed

all that us missing is beningo ranting that jd got fleeced and we are still clowns and kev getting arrested for showing up at jd’s house last night

[More Cowbell]

12 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I didn't realize the goal was to be good for a Jet QB.  Sure, I'm on board with that assessment.  But I'm continually told this is a legitimate Super Bowl contending team.

It's not.

The Jets have more talent on both sides of the ball than GB. Only Zach could screw that up. 

[dbatesman]

BURN HIM

[peebag]

WHO CARZE -SUPER BOZWL!

[More Cowbell]

6 minutes ago, jgb said:

Aaron Rodgers could decline 40% and still be the best Jets QB of my lifetime.

You weren't  around for Fitz?

[KRL]

It wasn't a "bad finger" it was the thumb on his throwing hand.  Don't minimize the facts to support a narrative

[jgb]

1 minute ago, More Cowbell said:

You weren't  around for Fitz?

I think I'd take 60% of Rodgers over 100% Fitz, assuming Rodgers' decline is physical and not dementia.

[jgb]

8 minutes ago, ganggreen305 said:

Let us be happy for 5 minutes please.

He's just going through the bargaining stage of grief after the loss of Zach Wilson as starting QB.

[LAJohn]

5 minutes ago, Trotter said:

Nope.

not allowed

all that us missing is beningo ranting that jd got fleeced and we are still clowns and kev getting arrested for showing up at jd’s house last night

The Jets definitely lost the negotiation. The Packers got a first and the Jets didn’t get any one and done protection. 

[BigRy56]

AR8 gonna decline himself to a championship 3 peat for the NY Jets

[slimjasi]

He could be on a decline, but we need another data point (this season). We have no slope - no change over time. All we know is he had one relatively down year. 
 

Btw, he didn’t have a bad finger “for 5 games,” he broke his finger in week 5. That’s a significant difference. 
 

The only odds Rodgers has to “defy” are the ones in your head - the jets have the 6th best odds to win the SB - that’s not because Rodgers is expected to suck. 

[Pac]

26 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

As we all know Aaron Rodgers will be 40 this year - and most understand he had his worst year as a pro. 

In the 15 years he's started 2008 to 2022.  He missed substantial time in 2013 (9 games played) and 2017 (7 games played) So we'll put those asides.

Here are some basic points worthy of noting...

• Lowest total yards (in 17 games vs. 16 in the past) 
• Lowest Rating
• Most INTs other than his first year as a starter - by A LOT (Almost more than the past three years combined)
• ZERO 300 yard games (only year he's done that)
• 2nd lowest total TD's (tied for 2nd lowest)

I'm sure there are plenty more concerns - as these are just basic stats from the chart below.

Now I hear a lot of excuses but the two main ones:

• He had a band finger for 5 games
• All he had at WR was a highly drafted rookie and Allen Lazard

Certainly you're all welcome to come to your own conclusions - but the most obvious and realistic one is Aaron Rodgers is getting old and it's showing in his game.  Once that starts to happen it almost always gets worse, fast.   I'm hoping Rodgers defy's the odds and returns to form, that would be amazing, but I do think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned.

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, LAJohn said:

The Jets definitely lost the negotiation. The Packers got a first and the Jets didn’t get any one and done protection. 

When the alternative was sucking and losing tons of actual football games? Hard to see how the Jets lost.