Mel Kiper loves the Jets pick - Will McDonald

[JETS SB]

I think the fact that we didn’t get the OT we needed is disappointing. I wanted Broderick Jones but the Pats screwed us. Personally I agree that McDonald was a good pick and will allow us to continue as an elite level defense, with the possibility of Carl Lawson having to be cut. 

 

 

[Team archer]

That settles it, he’s ass.

[Creepy Lurker]

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Problem isn’t so much the player as where he was taken and the opportunity cost involved 

Good chance they could have waited until #43 and still gotten him

I mean because of the talent ahead of him on depth chart it’s not as if he will even see the field much in ‘23 barring injury 

Was a luxury pick for a team in need of immediate impact players for a ‘23 SB run

Also the dude is what already 24?

[LAD_Brooklyn]

As already mentioned, it's more about the value. Just imagine had we pulled a Detroit and selected Breece Hall 10th overall last year?

[Joe W. Namath]

The player may be great.  But its still a terrible pick.  If we dont make this pick we still have 3 pass rushers in lawson, huff and johnson.

If garrett wilson gets hurt, we have total JAG receivers in stone hands davis, lazard and hardman.

McDonald can get 12 sacks snd it wont matter cause if garrett gets hurt, our receiving options stink.

[Jet2020]

Fowler or JSN should’ve been the pick. Or even Dalton Kincaid. However, a trade back and collect what you can should’ve been ideal here as all the WRs were still on the board and we could’ve selected one had we traded 5-7 picks down, even if you ignore hindsight.

A fair trade would've been able to collect a 3rd rounder. A not so fair trade would’ve been a 4th rounder.

Either way, we could’ve selected a player of similar value today (who knows what they’ll become in the future) and could’ve added possibly a decent find in the 3rd or 4th. 

[JETS SB]

1 hour ago, Jet2020 said:

Fowler or JSN should’ve been the pick. Or even Dalton Kincaid. However, a trade back and collect what you can should’ve been ideal here as all the WRs were still on the board and we could’ve selected one had we traded 5-7 picks down, even if you ignore hindsight.

A fair trade would've been able to collect a 3rd rounder. A not so fair trade would’ve been a 4th rounder.

Either way, we could’ve selected a player of similar value today (who knows what they’ll become in the future) and could’ve added possibly a decent find in the 3rd or 4th. 

As you could tell, if you were watching the draft, the Jets were trying to trade back. In the end, no one was trading up. JSN has below average speed and is an overrated slot receiver. Everyone falling in love with this guy is mind boggling. He was injured most of last season, and had one great game against Utah and everyone is projecting him as a 1st round pick. In the end, the guy will be an average, at best, WR in this league. We didn't need to draft a WR in the 1st round. 

I have no idea who Fowler is. I assume you mean Flowers. Again, not a need, with the amount of WR's available.

Anytime you can get a guy that can get to the QB like McDonald, you take him. If Broderick Jones was there, we would have taken him. I think we made a smart choice, considering there are still a ton of WRs left in the draft. It does feel like an OL is our next pick in the 2nd. We will see.

 

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, JETS SB said:

As you could tell, if you were watching the draft, the Jets were trying to trade back. In the end, no one was trading up.

There’s always someone looking to move up.  JD was just unwilling to take 75 cents on the dollar.  I think he should have, as he’d still very likely have ended up getting his guy anyways.  

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

2 hours ago, JETS SB said:

I think the fact that we didn’t get the OT we needed is disappointing. I wanted Broderick Jones but the Pats screwed us. Personally I agree that McDonald was a good pick and will allow us to continue as an elite level defense, with the possibility of Carl Lawson having to be cut. 

 

 

You don't pass on the next Kelce for a situational pass rusher who plays 15% of the plays. Massive mistake by Douglas letting buffalo get Kincaid. It's honestly a disaster 

[bealeb319]

The player may be great.  But its still a terrible pick.  If we dont make this pick we still have 3 pass rushers in lawson, huff and johnson.
If garrett wilson gets hurt, we have total JAG receivers in stone hands davis, lazard and hardman.
McDonald can get 12 sacks snd it wont matter cause if garrett gets hurt, our receiving options stink.

If Aaron Rodgers gets hurt we only have Zach Wilson at QB we should have drafted a QB? We could play that game at nearly any position on the field you can't single out one position and say we need to draft only this position Incase one of our guys gets hurt.

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[Irish Jet]

3 hours ago, JETS SB said:

I think the fact that we didn’t get the OT we needed is disappointing. I wanted Broderick Jones but the Pats screwed us. Personally I agree that McDonald was a good pick and will allow us to continue as an elite level defense, with the possibility of Carl Lawson having to be cut. 

 

 

Don’t blame the Pats. Douglas screwed himself.

[usanyj]

16 minutes ago, Irish Jet said:

Don’t blame the Pats. Douglas screwed himself.

I expected a trade up, especially after the tackles started to get picked. Win now mode means no half measures. You’re either all in or you aren’t. Tonight, JD was caught in between and it cost him.

[JETS SB]

8 minutes ago, usanyj said:

I expected a trade up, especially after the tackles started to get picked. Win now mode means no half measures. You’re either all in or you aren’t. Tonight, JD was caught in between and it cost him.

We didn't have the draft capital to trade up. That was never going to happen this year. If anything, we were trading back and gaining more picks. 

[New York Mick]

He looked good at the senior bowl other than that I’ve only seen highlights on the news until today. 
 

@NYJetsVets91 looks like a genius selecting him at 63 

[68JET11]

1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

You don't pass on the next Kelce for a situational pass rusher who plays 15% of the plays.

that's the key component of this whole pick. For where we were in terms of needing a guy to step in and be an immediate impact, this guy will be on the bench for mostly, unless they trade away Lawson.

[jamesr]

that's the key component of this whole pick. For where we were in terms of needing a guy to step in and be an immediate impact, this guy will be on the bench for mostly, unless they trade away Lawson.

The same could be said for a lot of other choices too ... a TE likely would be third on our depth chart; OT would be third / fourth (and that's not a spot you rotate). WR would be sub packages at best.

I was initially very surprised we went edge, but the more I've read the more I'm coming round to the idea. It's the sort of pick you can make when you no longer have glaring holes at premium positions - something none of us are used to!

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[Sonny Werblin]

5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

The player may be great.  But its still a terrible pick.  If we dont make this pick we still have 3 pass rushers in lawson, huff and johnson.

If garrett wilson gets hurt, we have total JAG receivers in stone hands davis, lazard and hardman.

McDonald can get 12 sacks snd it wont matter cause if garrett gets hurt, our receiving options stink.

Did the mental/emtional issues arising from the receiver room last season sour the jets on taking a WR near the top of the draft. Garret is our #1. Would a wr taken at 15 be satisfied taking a back seat to both wilson and Rodgers’ favorite, Lazard?

And really, do you use the #15 pick on an insurance policy?

[The Crusher]

5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

The player may be great.  But its still a terrible pick.  If we dont make this pick we still have 3 pass rushers in lawson, huff and johnson.

If garrett wilson gets hurt, we have total JAG receivers in stone hands davis, lazard and hardman.

McDonald can get 12 sacks snd it wont matter cause if garrett gets hurt, our receiving options stink.

That’s true. Yet, might still make a move in free agency. Plus with A-Rod the I think each recurved may get a little better as well as the line all of a sudden improves a bit. Not doubt though, head scratcher if a pick. Maybe Lawson getting cut to get money ti pay Q? 

[southparkcpa]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

There’s always someone looking to move up.  JD was just unwilling to take 75 cents on the dollar.  I think he should have, as he’d still very likely have ended up getting his guy anyways.  

The way the draft room was high fiving and showring themselves in congrats was puzzling. For a Calvin Pryor type pick at #15.  So Jetsy.

[32EBoozer]

5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

The player may be great.  But its still a terrible pick.  If we dont make this pick we still have 3 pass rushers in lawson, huff and johnson.

If garrett wilson gets hurt, we have total JAG receivers in stone hands davis, lazard and hardman.

McDonald can get 12 sacks snd it wont matter cause if garrett gets hurt, our receiving options stink.

The WR group wasn’t exactly flying off the Draft Board this year.

[CanadienJetsFan]

5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

The player may be great.  But its still a terrible pick.  If we dont make this pick we still have 3 pass rushers in lawson, huff and johnson.

If garrett wilson gets hurt, we have total JAG receivers in stone hands davis, lazard and hardman.

McDonald can get 12 sacks snd it wont matter cause if garrett gets hurt, our receiving options stink.

makes sense but you can't simply replace a guy like Garrett. No matter which WR was drafted, no one is at the caliber a Garrett.

 

[Lupz27]

6 hours ago, JETS SB said:

I think the fact that we didn’t get the OT we needed is disappointing. I wanted Broderick Jones but the Pats screwed us. Personally I agree that McDonald was a good pick and will allow us to continue as an elite level defense, with the possibility of Carl Lawson having to be cut. 

 

 

I don’t think Lawson is going anywhere.  Hopefully in year 2 after that injury he finds some confidence and a little more explosiveness and gets back close to where he was pre injury.

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

51 minutes ago, jamesr said:

The same could be said for a lot of other choices too ... a TE likely would be third on our depth chart; OT would be third / fourth (and that's not a spot you rotate). WR would be sub packages at best.

I was initially very surprised we went edge, but the more I've read the more I'm coming round to the idea. It's the sort of pick you can make when you no longer have glaring holes at premium positions - something none of us are used to!

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Kincaid was going to be second behind Garrett Wilson. Heck if Kincaid acclimated quickly he's going to be the number one option. Teams would double Garret Wilson and Kincaid would eat zone / linebacker covg alive. 

 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

8 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

I don’t think Lawson is going anywhere.  Hopefully in year 2 after that injury he finds some confidence and a little more explosiveness and gets back close to where he was pre injury.

If McDonald can be the next John Abraham and Saleh plays him and JJ more than 60% then the pick can be a home run. I'll admit that. It's especially effective exponentially if the jets play with a big lead because Rodgers is dicing up secondaries. This isn't the same old jets when Darnold goes 3 and out over and over again 

[Sammybighead]

6 hours ago, Jet2020 said:

Fowler or JSN should’ve been the pick. Or even Dalton Kincaid. However, a trade back and collect what you can should’ve been ideal here as all the WRs were still on the board and we could’ve selected one had we traded 5-7 picks down, even if you ignore hindsight.

A fair trade would've been able to collect a 3rd rounder. A not so fair trade would’ve been a 4th rounder.

Either way, we could’ve selected a player of similar value today (who knows what they’ll become in the future) and could’ve added possibly a decent find in the 3rd or 4th. 

I think if they had an offer for a 3rd they would have done it. 

[Larz]

Winning offensive football is passing 60/40 to get a lead and then running 60/40 to kill the clock. 

Winning defense stops the run on early downs and rushes the passer.  
 

when it gets fun is when the offense hands the defense a lead and the defense can pin its ears back and kill the QB.  
 

as others have mentioned, the jets defense needs a closer. He’s a closer. 
 

he was super productive from a traditional end position. Now he’s a situational wide 9 with a simple game plan: kill the QB.  
 

as we all know any draft pick can be great or bust so we have no idea what this guy will turn out to be. 
 

the idea is a good one.  The idea is winning football.  

[jamesr]

2 minutes ago, Sammybighead said:

I think if they had an offer for a 3rd they would have done it. 

Interesting how there was no trade down activity after our pick until NYG moved up (one slot!) at 24.

Says to me that no-one was really that interested in moving up.

[Untouchable]

I don’t understand this “we could’ve waited till #43” talk.

This isn’t some silly ass mock draft simulator.

Different teams have different grades on these guys.

Not the direction I was expecting, but I’m not going to get pissy over drafting a bendy edgerusher who has drawn Brian Burns comparisons.

[Lupz27]

27 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

If McDonald can be the next John Abraham and Saleh plays him and JJ more than 60% then the pick can be a home run. I'll admit that. It's especially effective exponentially if the jets play with a big lead because Rodgers is dicing up secondaries. This isn't the same old jets when Darnold goes 3 and out over and over again 

Nobody gives a **** what you think go to your Buffalo forums.

Also Darnold will win comeback player of the year award this year and will lead the 49ers to the playoffs and maybe the SB.

You heard it here.

Now bye Felicia ? 

[Barry McCockinner]

Have y'all seen Mad Mel Kiper on the Pat McAfee show draft spectacular? Excellent content. ?

[prime21]

[68JET11]

1 hour ago, jamesr said:

The same could be said for a lot of other choices too ... a TE likely would be third on our depth chart; OT would be third / fourth (and that's not a spot you rotate). WR would be sub packages at best.

I was initially very surprised we went edge, but the more I've read the more I'm coming round to the idea. It's the sort of pick you can make when you no longer have glaring holes at premium positions - something none of us are used to!

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I'm not saying it was a bad pick, I'm just saying we could have had the same guy later I believe.

[derp]

24 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

I don’t understand this “we could’ve waited till #43” talk.

This isn’t some silly ass mock draft simulator.

Different teams have different grades on these guys.

Not the direction I was expecting, but I’m not going to get pissy over drafting a bendy edgerusher who has drawn Brian Burns comparisons.

Yeah there’s almost no chance he would’ve been there at #43. He had lots of first round buzz with sharper folks.

Ultimately, pass rushing is a premium and he’s the guy in this class with the traditional tools to do it. He was always going higher than most expect.

Wouldn’t have been my pick, and I wouldn’t have minded a move down, but certainly understand the idea behind it.

Expect him to make an impact this year.

[32EBoozer]

50 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

I don’t think Lawson is going anywhere.  Hopefully in year 2 after that injury he finds some confidence and a little more explosiveness and gets back close to where he was pre injury.

I hope JD can renegotiate his contract getting a few $ shaved off his deal. I don’t think he’s finding that contract elsewhere during camp cuts.