I don't hate the McDonald pick (as much) after a little film.

[Lurker89]

Now that the rage of passing on JSN subsided and I've watched some film breakdown on Mcdonald I dont hate the pick as much as I did last night. 

Pros: great speed, great bend, great hands at the POA. Better in the run than I would have expected given his style of play. 

Cons: Not a ton of power in his game, looks a little lean. 5.5 sacks last year compared to double digits the 2 years prior.

Film Sprinkles:

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[HessStation]

Hilarious, he makes a comment to one of the YouTube evaluators above. Nice to see a personality on some of these guys who are usually robotic/drone like. 
 

im usually optimistic on these picks until I’m not. For now, there’s a lot of positives to be excited about.

I don’t think Broderick Jones was that good so I’m cool w all this 

[Lupz27]

26 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

Now that the rage of passing on JSN subsided and I've watched some film breakdown on Mcdonald I dont hate the pick as much as I did last night. 

Pros: great speed, great bend, great hands at the POA. Better in the run than I would have expected given his style of play. 

Cons: Not a ton of power in his game, looks a little lean. 5.5 sacks last year compared to double digits the 2 years prior.

Film Sprinkles:

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I actually like the player a lot.  Just hate where we picked him, he is a rotation player who should have gone early 2nd.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

Article on his Pro day.  

 

As expected, the star of the show was Will McDonald IV. His 40 times came in at 4.62 to 4.65 seconds. McDonald ran the 40 wearing a short sleeve hoody. NFL personnel people joked he would’ve run under 4.60 seconds without the extra draft.

His three-cone times were as fast as 6.60 seconds, and his short shuttle was 4.21 seconds. He looked terrific in drills, and there were many compliments about McDonald’s agility and ability to bend. The only criticism I heard was McDonald looked off balance because he’s “Too fast for his body.”

He participated in both defensive line and linebacker drills. Teams project McDonald as a one-gap defensive end in a 4-3 alignment or a 3-4 outside linebacker.

 

McDonald had dinner with the Steelers brass on Monday night. He also met with the Los Angeles Rams, Arizona Cardinals, New Orleans Saints, Kansas City Chiefs, and Jacksonville Jaguars. McDonald has 16 requests for official visits in the lead-up to the draft but will not be able to accommodate all of them.

[Lurker89]

5 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

I actually like the player a lot.  Just hate where we picked him, he is a rotation player who should have gone early 2nd.

A little extra meat on his bones and I could see a 3 down player. His technique is on point.

[UntouchableCrew]

6.60 three cone is pretty nasty. Certainly is a freaky athlete.

[ElBarrioJets]

Figures we draft the perfect 3-4 OLB a decade after we nix the 3-4.

[TommyT]

If he puts fear into a qb on 3rd and long, I am good with the pick.

[slats]

16 minutes ago, HessStation said:

Hilarious, he makes a comment to one of the YouTube evaluators above. Nice to see a personality on some of these guys who are usually robotic/drone like. 
 

im usually optimistic on these picks until I’m not. For now, there’s a lot of positives to be excited about.

I don’t think Broderick Jones was that good so I’m cool w all this 

Agreed. I’d rather have a freak coming off the edge part time than an OT sitting on the bench, which I think would’ve been likely. 

[JTJet]

41 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

Now that the rage of passing on JSN subsided and I've watched some film breakdown on Mcdonald I dont hate the pick as much as I did last night. 

Pros: great speed, great bend, great hands at the POA. Better in the run than I would have expected given his style of play. 

Cons: Not a ton of power in his game, looks a little lean. 5.5 sacks last year compared to double digits the 2 years prior.

Film Sprinkles:

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[Barry McCockinner]

41 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

Now that the rage of passing on JSN subsided and I've watched some film breakdown on Mcdonald I dont hate the pick as much as I did last night. 

Pros: great speed, great bend, great hands at the POA. Better in the run than I would have expected given his style of play. 

Cons: Not a ton of power in his game, looks a little lean. 5.5 sacks last year compared to double digits the 2 years prior.

Film Sprinkles:

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I don't know how relevant his stats are given his position in the Iowa defense. He's a much better fit rushing from the 9 the Jets will have him in.

[sec101row23]

4 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said:

Figures we draft the perfect 3-4 OLB a decade after we nix the 3-4.

Teams are in nickel or dime packages more than 65% of the time now.   It’s about being able to get to the QB with a 4 man rush now.   

[nyjets1969]

Guy is going to be another Lance Briggs ball hawking sideline OlB that strip sacks guy is going be a menace I agree Jets could have traded back a few spots still would have gotten him but it's a great pick they are thin at LB

[Sperm Edwards]

35 minutes ago, slats said:

Agreed. I’d rather have a freak coming off the edge part time than an OT sitting on the bench, which I think would’ve been likely. 

1st round: #1 edge rusher vs #4 OT.

If their careers match that status, the decision is easy. Easier still if/when they draft a day1 rookie starter at center tonight.

But this is the Jets, and the reason so many wanted him is because of Becton in particular, that draft's 3rd tackle taken.

Looking back, that draft the #1 edge was Chase Young and the #4 OT was Tristan Wirfs and...like I said (when I made this same original point in another thread 10 min ago), again suddenly I don't want to talk about this anymore. 

[C Mart]

 

[playtowinthegame]

He was going to be the Steelers next all-pro on defense...but then smokin Joe Douglas stole him. 

[jetsons]

 

[Smashmouth]

18 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

A little extra meat on his bones and I could see a 3 down player. His technique is on point.

We have a lot of guys at edge look for the Jets to play one of them full time at LB. I said this last year about JJ  who I thought played the LB position better in college than he plays edge where he looks stiff IMHO. Of course people laughed when I said that, Just like they Laughed when I said AVT would play Tackle at some point when he was drafted and that Aaron Rodgers should be a Jet last year before the Pack made the deal with him.

[Lupz27]

38 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

A little extra meat on his bones and I could see a 3 down player. His technique is on point.

3 down player?   Not with Saleh there is no such thing.

[kevinc855]

everyone looks good on a youtube film of their best moments. Doesnt mean he shoulda been picked at 15

[32EBoozer]

It’s all about fresh players collapsing the pocket play after play. JD creating competition at Edge and we need someone to step up between JJ, Clemons, Huff and McDonald. Lawson’s last season. We are facing Qb murderers row this season.

JSN isn’t helping us this season. We need to hold Eagles, Bills, SD, Miami, KC, Dallas and Denver under 20 pts. These teams have tremendous receivers and we need to help our DB’s. Pressure off Edge & up the middle is how we do this.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

If there was an OL, I would’ve went with that. But there wasn’t. I was fine with WR or Pass Rusher. 
 

If you’re going against these top QBs in the AFC, you have a better chance with Rodgers AND a top defense and not just saying, go out score them in a shootout. 
Rotating healthy pass rushers in big moments will pay dividends. 

[Tranquilo]

2 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

everyone looks good on a youtube film of their best moments. Doesnt mean he shoulda been picked at 15

He seems like an elite pass rusher. What's wrong with picking that type of player at 15?

[Warfish]

34 minutes ago, slats said:

Agreed. I’d rather have a freak coming off the edge part time than an OT sitting on the bench, which I think would’ve been likely. 

That's cool.....if he's actually a freak coming off the edge, and not an undersized, too slow LB learning a new position and how to stop the run and failing.

This pick will definitely be one that TBD till we see what he actually does on the field in games that count.  Presuming he does anything.

[jtomm]

4 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

3 down player?   Not with Saleh there is no such thing.

^^  true . our coach Likes to rotate his DL ( keep them fresh    ).   he'll help us a little this season.   more next year 

[C Mart]

8 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

everyone looks good on a youtube film of their best moments. Doesnt mean he shoulda been picked at 15

everyone on JN looks like an expert. Doesnt mean they shoulda been a GM that know more than a department of NFL scouts, talent evaluators and coaches. 

[Hex]

33 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

He was going to be the Steelers next all-pro on defense...but then smokin Joe Douglas stole him. 

Wait a sec

Steelers were 14

[IndianaJet]

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The only criticism I heard was McDonald looked off balance because he’s “Too fast for his body.”

 

 

 

Garrett Wilson is also too fast for his body.

[Lurker89]

13 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

everyone looks good on a youtube film of their best moments. Doesnt mean he shoulda been picked at 15

Bro I didnt pull a highlight video... I pulled film breakdown and game breakdown. 

Did you watch the videos or did you just pontificate without actually taking in any new information par usual.

[playtowinthegame]

1 minute ago, Hex said:

Wait a sec

Steelers were 14

They thought they'd get him later, but Smokin Joe stole him. Lol

[HighPitch]

Anton Harrison was a tackle that many of us are interested in and the guy in the video said that Mcdonald gave Harrison fits all day. Harrison couldn’t contain him

[Lurker89]

50 minutes ago, JTJet said:

I only do anger... and begrudging accepance.

2 steps, 1 forward, 1 backward like all Jets fans.

[JTJet]

10 minutes ago, C Mart said:

everyone on JN looks like an expert. Doesnt mean they shoulda been a GM that know more than a department of NFL scouts, talent evaluators and coaches. 

JetNation knew more about Mekhi Becton than that scouting department and coaching staff knew...

Soo...

[Bowles Movement]

40 minutes ago, slats said:

Agreed. I’d rather have a freak coming off the edge part time than an OT sitting on the bench, which I think would’ve been likely. 

Broderick Jones only started one year in college and Id read that he would need a year to strengthen up for the pros.   He was the last of the 4 for a reason, and went after Darnell Wright who some projected end of first, beginning of second rd.  If they selected him he wasnt starting unless there was an injury, but he would have been groomed to replace Brown and/or Becton next year.

In pivoting to MaDonald, I think the Jets similarly were probably again planning for the departure of either Huff and/or Lawson next year, and hoping to use him situationally this year.   They are going to be hard up against the cap with Rodgers salary and there will be some tough personnel decisions to make. 
 

Sometimes you have to play the hand that youre dealt.   This guy is quick and strong for his size.  He played straight up against college guards and tackles this year .

I could see him rushing from a LB position and really wreaking havoc.  His hand use and moves reminds me a little of Jason Taylor and he was pretty effective as a pass rusher.

I d guess the Jets select from the next tier of Offensive lineman today.  Either a center like Schmitz who some wanted at 15, or maybe that monster right tackle from Ohio State.

[Jimmy 2 Times]

1 hour ago, HessStation said:

Hilarious, he makes a comment to one of the YouTube evaluators above. Nice to see a personality on some of these guys who are usually robotic/drone like. 
 

im usually optimistic on these picks until I’m not. For now, there’s a lot of positives to be excited about.

I don’t think Broderick Jones was that good so I’m cool w all this 

Jones probably wouldn’t play unless there was injury anyway.  At least this guy will be hunting on 20-30% of the snaps.