Popular Post AFJF Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) ***I understand that a lot of us have grown tired of the number of videos posted on the board, but for those who don't know, these are from the JetNation.com youtube channel. This isn't a case of using the forums and all of the years Max has put in to promote a different site or channel that's looking to take a short cut. PS...sorry about the face**** Some morning after thoughts that I think addresses some of the concerns over the pick that we're seeing on here and twitter. Also touched on what it probably means for Lawson. From the JetNation YouTube channel. Also...here is a link to the page for anyone who would like to subscribe. JetNation - YouTube Edited April 28, 2023 by AFJF 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 28, 2023 Author Share Posted April 28, 2023 Jets finally putting together a formidable group of edge rushers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Good take. If your contribution is finishing games in limited snaps, that's still a pretty huge contribution towards winning now. I hear there's a couple decent QB's in the AFC we may need to get through. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: Good take. If your contribution is finishing games in limited snaps, that's still a pretty huge contribution towards winning now. I hear there's a couple decent QB's in the AFC we may need to get through. If you're getting 1.5 sacks in a game on 20 snaps that's better than getting 1.0 sacks while playing 35 snaps. It's like how much you value a closer in baseball. "Hey, he only pitched one inning and got 3 outs! Why we paying him so much?" What you contribute and WHEN you contribute it (think Bryce Huff pressuring Josh Allen at the end of the Jets win vs Buffalo last year) matters more than simply being on the field for lots of plays. Just my two cents. 9 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted April 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: If you're getting 1.5 sacks in a game on 20 snaps that's better than getting 1.0 sacks while playing 35 snaps. It's like how much you value a closer in baseball. "Hey, he only pitched one inning and got 3 outs! Why we paying him so much?" What you contribute and WHEN you contribute it (think Bryce Huff pressuring Josh Allen at the end of the Jets win vs Buffalo last year) matters more than simply being on the field for lots of plays. Just my two cents. This is good logic. Opened my eyes a bit, I can walk back my bad take in the pick strategy. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Is Macdonald anything like LT? They’re similar in size. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Good stuff! Now we need an explosive LB shadowing Hurts/Mahomes when scrambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barry McCockinner Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 I wonder if this could be foreshadowing similar picks the rest of the draft in terms of how they're viewing needs now. There aren't as many gaping holes for true starters as we've had in the past. Maybe they're more dialed into niche roles they see they need to fill to get over the top. Something to consider as they start to come in. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Do you think John Hall will give him his number 9? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: This is good logic. Opened my eyes a bit, I can walk back my bad take in the pick strategy. The Eagles had the most sacks last season I believe........and they still determined coming into the draft that they needed more pass rush. Jets aren't as prolific as PHI, so the argument is sound that they need more guys to hit QBs........look at the gauntlet of QBs they face this year. Allen (twice), Mahomes, Herbert, Hurts, Dak, etc. Guys get hurt and worn down.......need depth at this crucial position for Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtomm Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, rangerous said: Is Macdonald anything like LT? *** hope so but THAT's ALOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpain Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, rangerous said: Is Macdonald anything like LT? They’re similar in size. Not sure if hes ready for hookers and an 8 ball on the night before the game yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#27TheDominator Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 This dude is really long. He may weigh sub-240, but his arms are 2 and 5/8 longer than Skoronski. I think that contributes to the strip sacks. He gets his hands in there even when being blocked around the pocket. I know people looked at Johnson as a pass rusher. I never really did. I think he is more of an edge setting every down guy. McDonald seems like an actual pass rusher. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETS SB Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 GAME WRECKER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: The Eagles had the most sacks last season I believe........and they still determined coming into the draft that they needed more pass rush. Jets aren't as prolific as PHI, so the argument is sound that they need more guys to hit QBs........look at the gauntlet of QBs they face this year. Allen (twice), Mahomes, Herbert, Hurts, Dak, etc. Guys get hurt and worn down.......need depth at this crucial position for Jets. The Eagles had the #3/#3 overall Offense last year. The Jets were #29/#25. Now, if you think Rodgers + Lazard instead of Wilson + Moore is more than enough to make up that gap, then sure, your logic is somewhat sound. Speaking of guys who get hurt, how has the health of our O-line and WR's been in recent years? We're good if we lose one of two of each, like we seem to every year of late, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: The Eagles had the #3/#3 overall Offense last year. The Jets were #29/#25. Now, if you think Rodgers + Lazard instead of Wilson + Moore is more than enough to make up that gap, then sure, your logic is somewhat sound. Speaking of guys who get hurt, how has the health of our O-line and WR's been in recent years? We're good if we lose one of two of each, like we seem to every year of late, right? Rodgers/GW/Lazard/Hardman/Davis/Mims/Conklin/Ruckert and a healthy OL with Breece/Carter/Draft Pick will be able to supply a more reasonable Top 15 offense OA… maybe even top 10. Shutting down opposing offenses should greatly help the offensive production 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Warfish said: The Eagles had the #3/#3 overall Offense last year. The Jets were #29/#25. Now, if you think Rodgers + Lazard instead of Wilson + Moore is more than enough to make up that gap, then sure, your logic is somewhat sound. Speaking of guys who get hurt, how has the health of our O-line and WR's been in recent years? We're good if we lose one of two of each, like we seem to every year of late, right? I really want to see us trade for a big time WR to add to the offense. Obviously Rodgers alone is a huge bump to the offense but if you look at the top offenses a lot of them have a much more impressive trio of receiving options than we do. DeAndre Hopkins please. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 He’s growing on me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 We can talk ourselves blue in the face here ( why not, lol) but let’s be honest. We’re all a little concerned with the value/pick here. Best case scenario the kid makes a few splash plays the first week or two, then he’s golden. If he gets off slow, this place will be all over the pick. Does any of it really matter short term? No, but this place can be what’s a good word… demanding? He’s a Jet now, so might as well get behind him and hope for things to work out well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Rodgers/GW/Lazard/Hardman/Davis/Mims/Conklin/Ruckert and a healthy OL with Breece/Carter/Draft Pick will be able to supply a more reasonable Top 15 offense OA… maybe even top 10. 15th won't win a Super Bowl. 30 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: Shutting down opposing offenses should greatly help the offensive production It didn't last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I really want to see us trade for a big time WR to add to the offense. Obviously Rodgers alone is a huge bump to the offense but if you look at the top offenses a lot of them have a much more impressive trio of receiving options than we do. DeAndre Hopkins please. He is. And Lazard is likely a good add, mostly for his blocking. His incremental receiving improvement over Moore is, IMO, somewhat negligible. Moore has done less but has and had a higher upside if used right. Beyond that, our entire O seems to rest on "we're getting everyone from last year back from injury, surely they'll be better players and healthier this year, right?" Maybe, but it feels a bit overly optimistic to me. I do not want to waste even a single day of having Rodgers as our QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 53 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I wonder if this could be foreshadowing similar picks the rest of the draft in terms of how they're viewing needs now. There aren't as many gaping holes for true starters as we've had in the past. Maybe they're more dialed into niche roles they see they need to fill to get over the top. Something to consider as they start to come in. I think you make a good point.....now that major holes are filled. Seems like now (and going forward) we'll see picks that shape the team into the kind of team they want....for example Saleh loves a good D based on a strong D-line. Hence, edge rusher McDonald (versus a Safety or TE kind of pick). In fact, we could still see a young D-Tackle...massive dude who plugs up the running lanes kind of late-round draft pick. We'll see!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Warfish said: 15th won't win a Super Bowl. It didn't last year. Haven’t you heard…? We traded for a new Qb. That should make a big difference, right? 9 minutes ago, Warfish said: It didn't last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 WOW! Just Wow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Our O is lacking a big possession receiver (unless conklin or Ruckert can become that) and a mini-me slot guy (I know we just signed that speedster, but he's never been dominant). I'm surprised we traded Moore AND let that tiny short blond haired midget kid go to Miami. That tiny short blond haired midget kid would do really good with Rodgers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, AFJF said: This isn't a case of using the forums and all of the years Max has put in to promote a different site or channel that's looking to take a short cut. Shots fired. Kevin is gonna make up a story about bending you like a pretzel. udead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 They aren’t remotely the same player or position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooooon Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, rangerous said: Is Macdonald anything like LT? They’re similar in size. Yes, Macdonald is the next LT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: WOW! Just Wow! Do that for next year when Huff and Lawson mosey on outta here! 'Ol McDonald had a farm or Michael Clemons could be our starting RDE going forward. Also, Marquiss Spencer and/or Anae could get cut or sent to the P-squad. I really like the future of our d-line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, rangerous said: Is Macdonald anything like LT? They’re similar in size. No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, rangerous said: Is Macdonald anything like LT? They’re similar in size. Watching McDonald's highlites, he seems more of a meth guy ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, FootballLove said: Our O is lacking a big possession receiver (unless conklin or Ruckert can become that) and a mini-me slot guy (I know we just signed that speedster, but he's never been dominant). I'm surprised we traded Moore AND let that tiny short blond haired midget kid go to Miami. That tiny short blond haired midget kid would do really good with Rodgers. ?? Lazard is 6'5" 227lbs and Davis is 6'3" 209lbs. Why don't they qualify? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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