Interesting post by Lions beat writer

[LockeJET]

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

All reports are halls surgery/ rehab is going smoothly. He was electric last year 

[Vader]

I mean Gibbs is a beast but that's overkill. The Breece Effect may be somewhat responsible for these RBs flying off agin in rd 1. They may have a short shelf life but they are plug and play

[slimjasi]

I’m skeptical but this place would have exploded 

[Bleedin Green]

Well I guess that's reason for optimism, given that JD didn't have the opportunity to make the dumbest pick imaginable.

[Jethead]

Idea is not wrong. More RB talent would be good to add.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

If he’s as good as Kamara, I would have been ok with that

[Saul Goodman]

Hate the idea of using a 1st round pick on a running back. I hate it less than taking a pass rusher after we just went all-in with Rodgers. 

[JTJet]

This is spin to help justify them taking a RB where they did. 

That is all. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

I’d deal our 5th rounder for Deandre Swift

[slimjasi]

3 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

Hate the idea of using a 1st round pick on a running back. I hate it less than taking a pass rusher after we just went all-in with Rodgers. 

This idea that we should stop investing significant resources on defense because we traded for Aaron Rodgers is baffling to me.

A 4th quarter pass rush doesn’t win games anymore because we got Aaron Rodgers?  

[Augustiniak]

Just now, slimjasi said:

This idea that we should stop investing significant resources in defense because we traded for Aaron Rodgers is baffling to me.

A 4th quarter pass doesn’t win games anymore because we got Aaron Rodgers?  

Balance.  And add a rb and wr tomorrow

[papz187]

This idea that we should stop investing significant resources on defense because we traded for Aaron Rodgers is baffling to me.
A 4th quarter pass rush doesn’t win games anymore because we got Aaron Rodgers?  

Exactly....makes no sense. Teams with championships, pass rusher is an important role on a team. Quarterbacks are very important, so if we have guys that can hit the opposing teams QB its a good thing to have.

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[LIJetsFan]

Wright and Gibbs (like them yourself or not) were the fall back if the top 3 OT's were gone.  Makes sense that Jets were a bit flustered when all 5 were gone.  I think McDonald improves us less than any of those 5 but none the less I'm warming to the pick.    

[Warfish]

4 hours ago, Vader said:

I mean Gibbs is a beast but that's overkill.

When your offense is perennially in the 28th-32nd ranked zone, there is no such thing as "overkill".

[Saul Goodman]

4 hours ago, slimjasi said:

This idea that we should stop investing significant resources on defense because we traded for Aaron Rodgers is baffling to me.

A 4th quarter pass rush doesn’t win games anymore because we got Aaron Rodgers?  

There’s an inequity between the offense and defense, and that hasn’t changed even with Rodgers here. Some more balance would help us win more games IMO. Not that controversial of a take. 

Let me ask you, predraft, who were the top guys you wanted the Jets to take with our 1st round pick? 
 

 

[Obrien2Toon]

Saw a rumor earlier that the giants were going to take him

maybe he got his NY’s mixed up 

[Maxman]

2 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said:

Saw a rumor earlier that the giants were going to take him

maybe he got his NY’s mixed up 

Yeah no way Douglas was going RB in round one, especially when he didn't have a 3rd rounder.

[Joe W. Namath]

I open a thread 2 months ago saying id take bijon robinson w round 1.  RBs are making a comeback.  Every team splits carries now so having 2 Top 5 rb talents is a great idea.  
 

But we Joe ending up blowing the pick so it doesnt matter.

[slimjasi]

13 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

There’s an inequity between the offense and defense, and that hasn’t changed even with Rodgers here. Some more balance would help us win more games IMO. Not that controversial of a take. 

Let me ask you, predraft, who were the top guys you wanted the Jets to take with our 1st round pick? 
 

 

I wanted an OL OR I wanted us to trade down

After those two options, i would have taken my highest rated WR/Edge. I’m not big on taking non premium positions in the first round, but maybe DT. 
 

I would have taken JSN, mainly because I have a thing for receivers, but I don’t think taking another edge was unreasonable at all and the player they drafted has some freakish athleticism with potential to blossom. 

[undertow]

I don't believe any rumors involving the Jets people know it gets them attention and clicks 99 percent of it is nonsense. 

[NYJCAP2]

5 hours ago, Vader said:

I mean Gibbs is a beast but that's overkill. The Breece Effect may be somewhat responsible for these RBs flying off agin in rd 1. They may have a short shelf life but they are plug and play

Gibbs would have been much more valuable to this offense than JSN. Would have out touched him and been more versatile.

I’ve been arguing this in the draft forum all week.

[jetsons]

13 hours ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

All reports are halls surgery/ rehab is going smoothly. He was electric last year 

Yeah, but acl’s normally take a year or two before completely healing & even then you can never be sure… I’m still holding out that the Jets grab a rb tomorrow… I haven’t been able to watch the draft so I’m not sure who’s left… Deuce Vaughn, Tyler Spears & the back from TCU would be nice, again, if still available.

[Jet Nut]

1 hour ago, Warfish said:

When your offense is perennially in the 28th-32nd ranked zone, there is no such thing as "overkill".

Yeah, it wasn’t due to poor QB play from 2016 on.  It was RB position.  

[Jet Nut]

19 minutes ago, jetsons said:

Yeah, but acl’s normally take a year or two before completely healed & even then you can never be sure… I’m still holding out that the Jets grab a rb tomorrow… I haven’t been able to watch the draft so I’m not sure who’s left… Deuce Vaughn, Tyler Spears & the back from TCU would be nice, again, if still available.

A year or two?  What is it the 1980’s?

 You’re looking around 8 months if there aren’t setbacks.  Maybe less

[Vader]

34 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said:

Gibbs would have been much more valuable to this offense than JSN. Would have out touched him and been more versatile.

I’ve been arguing this in the draft forum all week.

agree, I didn't advocate JSN

[Warfish]

7 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Yeah, it wasn’t due to poor QB play from 2016 on.  It was RB position.  

Lol, pretty rich for anyone to lecture me about the past few years failings being "due to bad QB play" when it was guys like me and @jgb and @Jetsfan80 who tried to tell yall those QB's weren't good or good enough enough all along, while all most guys here had to say was "but his elite potential durrrr!"

I was right then, and I'm right now.  This O, as it exists now, isn't good enough to win a Super Bowl.  It needs more.  

[Larz]

Hall had a very serious injury.  NFL backs don’t get on the field if they can’t pick up the blitz. Rodgers and Hackett throw to the backs a lot.  This would have been a good pick. 

[Larz]

7 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

A year or two?  What is it the 1980’s?

 You’re looking around 8 months if there aren’t setbacks.  Maybe less

Barkley saw the field but he was a shadow of his former self 

[LIJetsFan]

13 minutes ago, Larz said:

Hall had a very serious injury.  NFL backs don’t get on the field if they can’t pick up the blitz. Rodgers and Hackett throw to the backs a lot.  This would have been a good pick. 

The more I think about it the more I love the idea of taking the #1RB in the draft at 15 with the OL already gone.  As noted elsewhere this draft class was weak in the 1st round so even our backups were gone.   It makes sense that a bendy edge who holds the sack record and who was misused in his final college year was next man up on JD's board.     

I'm coming around to the pick.  Give me time.    

[Cut Jet Penalty Makers]

51 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Lol, pretty rich for anyone to lecture me about the past few years failings being "due to bad QB play" when it was guys like me and @jgb and @Jetsfan80 who tried to tell yall those QB's weren't good or good enough enough all along, while all most guys here had to say was "but his elite potential durrrr!"

I was right then, and I'm right now.  This O, as it exists now, isn't good enough to win a Super Bowl.  It needs more.  

Won't even be enough to win the division. That bye game in the first round is key. Third place in the division this year coming up.

[Integrity28]

14 hours ago, Kelly to Allen no huddle said:

All reports are halls surgery/ rehab is going smoothly. He was electric last year 

You still need 2 studs in todays NFL. In my opinion.

[Sperm Edwards]

14 hours ago, slimjasi said:

This idea that we should stop investing significant resources on defense because we traded for Aaron Rodgers is baffling to me.

A 4th quarter pass rush doesn’t win games anymore because we got Aaron Rodgers?  

More conventional wisdom would suggest the opposite.

A not-insignificant part of Rodgers being here is so they don't have to overdo it with every high pick going to that same side of the ball. I wouldn't advocate all-defense like GB did for a decade, but the somewhat-developmental OT everyone is crying over missing, it seems, was unlikely to be an immediate/2023 upgrade at either tackle spot anyway. He might have very well been the 4th best tackle on the team this year, just ahead of Mitchell but behind both presumed starters & AVT.

[jgb]

1 hour ago, Warfish said:

Lol, pretty rich for anyone to lecture me about the past few years failings being "due to bad QB play" when it was guys like me and @jgb and @Jetsfan80 who tried to tell yall those QB's weren't good or good enough enough all along, while all most guys here had to say was "but his elite potential durrrr!"

I was right then, and I'm right now.  This O, as it exists now, isn't good enough to win a Super Bowl.  It needs more.  

If you’re good enough to get into playoffs, you’re good enough to get hot and string together some wins in the low sample size environment of the playoffs and win a ring. But that doesn’t mean it’s likely. Far from it. We are not good enough to be considered favorites or even top flight contenders, to that I absolutely agree. If we make the playoffs — and I hope to god we do — I could see us being dogs in every game for as long as we stick around.

This is one reason I was pushing so hard to trade for Mike Evans. Seems that ship probably sailed/was never there to begin with — once TB restructured his contract.

[Creepy Lurker]

I could not see the Jets doing this after all the drama they just had with Moore complaining about reps. Hall probably wouldn’t behave as poorly as Moore but it’s just too fresh for the Jets to risk have happening again.