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With JMS on the Giants, Tippmann will be under a microscope.  I would have preferred JMS.  JD is betting on the athletic traits more than the film right now, which reveals the problems with Tippmann's hands and DT's getting in on his chest at times.  That's where his height is a liability.   

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16 minutes ago, Lith said:

Davis is here because he plays special teams.  3rd most snaps on the team on specials last year.  He may not be a very good FS and hopefully he can be replaced by someone we pick today who can also add something on defense, but he is here as a core special teamer.

 

Our ST was not that good.  Neither is Ashtyn Davis.

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34 minutes ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said:

Spin job by Saleh who states there will be an "open competition." Tippmann will be handed the job no matter what..no way will Saleh be allowed to make JD look bad, think why Ashtyn Davis is still on the team. 

More like respect to McGovern. 

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33 minutes ago, Lith said:

Davis is here because he plays special teams.  3rd most snaps on the team on specials last year.  He may not be a very good FS and hopefully he can be replaced by someone we pick today who can also add something on defense, but he is here as a core special teamer.

 

Year 3 for Davis. If the light is ever going to turn on, now would be the time. 
He has the physical tools… but he takes bad angles and doesn’t see the field well. Lacks instinct

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36 minutes ago, Lith said:

Davis is here because he plays special teams.  3rd most snaps on the team on specials last year.  He may not be a very good FS and hopefully he can be replaced by someone we pick today who can also add something on defense, but he is here as a core special teamer.

 

And nearly invisible on special teams.

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1 hour ago, Phillyjet said:

With JMS on the Giants, Tippmann will be under a microscope.  I would have preferred JMS.  JD is betting on the athletic traits more than the film right now, which reveals the problems with Tippmann's hands and DT's getting in on his chest at times.  That's where his height is a liability.   

I think it's his versatility more than anything else. He can play other positions on the line where JMS cannot. 

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1 hour ago, Phillyjet said:

With JMS on the Giants, Tippmann will be under a microscope.  I would have preferred JMS.  JD is betting on the athletic traits more than the film right now, which reveals the problems with Tippmann's hands and DT's getting in on his chest at times.  That's where his height is a liability.   

not everyone sees it that way.  

Brugler (and others) had Tippman at the top of his C list since the very beginning and I respect Brugler more than any of the others out there.  

 

CENTERS           PROSPECT   SCHOOL GRADE YEAR HEIGHT WEIGHT 40-YD (10-YD) ARMS HANDS WING AGE  1. JOE TIPPMANN Wisconsin 2nd 4JR 6060 313 DNP (DNP) 32 3/4 10 3/4 80 3/8 22.09 2. JOHN MICHAEL SCHMITZ Minnesota 2nd-3rd  6SR 6034 301 5.35 (1.78) 32 5/8 9 1/2 78 3/8 24.11 3. RICKY STROMBERG Arkansas 4th 4SR 6032 306 5.26 (1.75) 33 1/4 9 3/4 79 5/8 22.46 4. LUKE WYPLER Ohio State 4th-5th 3JR 6025 303 5.14 (1.73) 31 5/8 9 5/8 77 1/8 21.98 5. ALEX FORSYTH Oregon 5th 6SR 6037 303 DNP (DNP) 32 3/4 10 1/4 81 3/8 24.21 6. JUICE SCRUGGS Penn State 5th-6th   5SR 6032 301 5.22 (1.76) 33 1/4 10 1/4 81 3/4 23.27 7. OLU OLUWATIMI Michigan 5th-6th 6SR 6024 309 5.38 (1.79) 32 3/4 8 5/8 79 1/8 23.73   

1. JOE TIPPMANN | Wisconsin       6060 | 313 lbs. | 4JR       Fort Wayne, Ind. (Bishop Dwenger)      3/24/2001 (age 22.09) #75  BACKGROUND: Joe Tippmann, who is one of eight children (seven boys, one girl), was born and raised in Fort Wayne and started playing football at the youth level. In the sixth grade, he started working with Bishop Dwenger offensive line coach Jason Fabini, a Fort Wayne native who was a fourth-round pick in the 1998 NFL Draft and played 11 seasons in the NFL (1998-2008). Tippmann became a fourth-generation football player at Bishop Dwenger, a Catholic high school in Fort Wayne. He was the starting left tackle as a 15-year-old sophomore, announcing himself as one of the top players in the area. As a junior, he earned All-State and All-Conference honors at left tackle while adding 68 tackles on defense. As a senior captain, Tippmann led Bishop Dwenger to a 14-1 season and the 2018 Class 4A state championship (four-overtime thriller in the title game at Lucas Oil Stadium). With 102 pancake blocks in 2018, he was named Indiana’s Mr. Football and conference MVP, adding 41 tackles and 3.0 sacks as a defensive tackle. Tippmann also won the Euell A. Wilson Award, which goes to the senior who has the greatest impact athletically and in the community. He lettered in track and set a personal best of 42 feet 2.25 inches in the shot put.   A four-star recruit, Tippmann was the No. 26 offensive tackle in the 2019 recruiting class and the No. 6 recruit in Indiana. He started to collect scholarship offers during his junior season, starting with Ball State and Cincinnati. Tippmann attended a recruiting camp at Wisconsin the summer before his junior year and stayed close with the coaching staff, which finally offered him in November 2017. He committed a month later, becoming the fifth recruit to join the Badgers’ 2019 class. Several schools (Indiana, Iowa, Minnesota, Notre Dame, Purdue) continued to recruit him, but Tippmann stayed loyal to Wisconsin and signed in the early signing period. Part of the Badgers’ recruiting pitch was that they would train him at tackle, guard and center, and Tippmann was open to playing any position. He was born into an athletic family, with multiple siblings and cousins who starred athletically at Bishop Dwenger High School (NFL scout: “There were like 18 players on the 2018 Bishop Dwenger varsity squad from the Tippmann family tree.”). Several of his relatives went on to play college athletics, most recently Jack Tippmann (freshman tight end at Illinois State in 2022) and K.J. Tippmann (freshman running back at St. Francis in 2022). Tippmann opted out of the 2022 bowl game and elected to skip his senior season to enter the 2023 NFL Draft.  YEAR (GP/GS) POSITION NOTES        2019: Redshirt 2020: (2/0)  Battled a right shoulder injury  2021: (11/10) OC Honorable Mention All-Big Ten 2022: (12/12) OC Honorable Mention All-Big Ten; Bowl opt-out Total: (25/22) OC   HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP    COMBINE 6060 313 32 3/4 10 3/4 80 3/8 - - - - - - - - (no workout – right hamstring) PRO DAY -  - - - - - - - - - - -  30 (bench press and position drills only)  STRENGTHS: Fluid, rangy big man with the foot speed to excel on short and long pulls … quick first step and opens his hips out of his stance to seal pursuit angles as a lead blocker … has a natural feel for wide-zone footwork (play-side and back-side) … uses his reach to latch-and-drive defenders out of the play … resets well in pass protection with the play strength and active punch to stay square … showcases snap in his hips when he maintains his pad level to displace his target … locates targets from distance to make appropriate adjustments … weight-room warrior (635-pound squat, 455-pound bench according to Bruce Feldman’s Freaks List), but his teammates describe him as a “calm” communicator at center … relates to every player in the locker room and NFL scouts and coaches give him strong character reviews … skill set should translate well to guard.  WEAKNESSES: Taller than ideal for the position … gets upright in space and pad level consistency will be a constant battle for him … loses balance after first contact when he allows defenders to get into his body … needs to better reset his hips/hands to stay attached and sustain blocks without straining (flagged four times for holding in 2022) … was non-contact the last two offseasons as he transitioned to center ... battled through the 2020 season with a damaged right shoulder, which required offseason surgery (missed 2021 spring); suffered a left shoulder injury and missed 2022 spring practices because of his second straight offseason labrum surgery (different shoulder) … practiced at guard and tackle, but 99.5 percent of his in-game snaps came at center.   CONTENTS[152] SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Wisconsin, Tippmann operated at center in former offensive coordinator Bobby Engram’s run-based pro-style scheme (his first season as a play-caller was in 2022). A tackle in high school, he cross-trained at guard and tackle on the scout team in 2019 and as a backup in 2020 before moving to center for the 2021 and 2022 seasons (had never played the position before). Tippmann is an athletic blocker who shines on pulls, cutoffs and any move-block that shows off his range and eyes. With his bend and flexibility, he is able to play low for a taller player and generate explosive torque through his hips, but he gets offschedule when his pads rise, often ending up on the ground. Overall, Tippmann must be mindful of his body leverage/balance to match up versus NFL defenders, but his quickness, strength and vision are all plus traits for a starting interior lineman. He projects as an NFL starter (either center or guard), ideally suited for a wide-zone scheme.     GRADE: 2nd Round (No. 43 overall)        

 

2. JOHN MICHAEL SCHMITZ | Minnesota    6034 | 301 lbs. | 6SR    Flossmoor, Ill. (HW-Flossmoor)    3/19/1999 (age 24.11)  #60  BACKGROUND: John Michael Schmitz Jr., who is one of four children, started playing football (and hockey) when he was age 5 for the Homewood Flossmoor Junior Vikings. Growing up on the South Side of Chicago, he initially attended Marian Catholic High School in Chicago Heights and played defensive end on the freshman team. As a sophomore, Schmitz moved up to varsity and was a two-way starter on the offensive and defensive lines. Wanting to play at a larger program, he transferred to Homewood-Flossmoor Community High School, where he started at left tackle as a junior and senior, helping the team to a 20-3 record over his final two seasons. Schmitz earned All-State and All-Conference honors as a senior. He also played baseball and basketball and wrestled at Marian Catholic, but chose to focus on only football at Homewood-Flossmoor.   A three-star recruit, Schmitz was the No. 16 center in the 2017 recruiting class and the No. 25 recruit in Illinois (fifth-best offensive line recruit in the state). After his junior season, he received his first offer (Buffalo), one of a half-dozen offers from MAC schools. Schmitz initially committed to head coach P.J. Fleck and Western Michigan and planned on shutting down his recruitment. However, Fleck was hired as the new head coach at Minnesota in January 2017 and asked several WMU recruits to follow him, including Schmitz. Dreaming of one day playing in the Big Ten, Schmitz called it an easy decision despite never visiting the Minnesota campus. He took advantage of the extra year of eligibility due to the pandemic and returned to the Gophers for his sixth season in 2022. Schmitz became engaged to his fiancée (Daniella Lucari) on New Year’s Day 2022. He has two older sisters (Gabrielle and Hannah) and one younger brother (Jack). Schmitz graduated with his degree in sport management. He opted out of the 2022 bowl game and accepted his invitation to the 2023 Senior Bowl.   YEAR (GP/GS) POSITION NOTES         2017: Redshirted 2018: (13/0)   Played primarily on special teams 2019: (13/4) OC 2020: (6/6) OC Honorable Mention All-Big Ten; Missed one game due to injury   2021: (13/13) OC Second Team All-Big Ten 2022: (12/12) OC First Team All-American; First Team All-Big Ten; Bowl opt-out Total: (57/35) OC   HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP    COMBINE 6034 301 32 5/8 9 1/2 78 3/8 5.35 3.03 1.78 29 1/2 8’8” 4.56 - 26 (no 3-cone – choice)  PRO DAY 6034 305 32 7/8 9 5/8 79 7/8 - - - - - - -  - (no 3-cone – choice)  STRENGTHS: NFL-quality frame with adequate mass and play strength … skillfully uses his hands and grip strength to latch-and-strain in the run game … generates power from his lower body to drive his man away from the play … able to angle his hips to seal run lanes … his hands stay active and fierce in pass protection … digs in versus bull rushers and stays stout … enough range to pick off linebackers as a climber … nasty on-field finisher … always looking for work and there are zero concerns about his competitive makeup … his coaches rave about his mental toughness and blue-collar mentality (his father is a carpenter and his mom worked as an electrician) … logged 35 career starts for the Gophers, missing only two games (one because of injury, one opt-out) the last three seasons.  WEAKNESSES: Lacks desired length and foot quickness … falls off blocks when he doesn’t maintain his balance through engagement … upper half and hands tend to react before his lower body, forcing him to lunge or hold … inconsistent hand placement, timing and sustain versus quick interior rushers … needs to be more controlled on the move and keep his eyes elevated when pulling in the run game … smart player, but his eyes can get wild and he will be late picking up stunts or delayed pressures … will be 24 on draft weekend … was only a center at Minnesota and didn’t take a snap at guard or tackle (played left tackle in high school).  SUMMARY: A four-year starter at Minnesota, Schmitz was the anchor of the offensive line at center in offensive coordinator Kirk Ciarrocca’s balanced scheme. Despite losing four starters on the offensive line, the Gophers ranked top-15 nationally in rushing offense in 2022 behind Schmitz, who earned All-American status as a senior (first Minnesota All-American on the offensive line since 2005). A physical brawler with a wrestling background, Schmitz is at his best in the run game where his aggressive hands and grip strength allow him to create displacement (Fleck: “It also helps when your best player is your hardest worker.”). However, the main concern for his NFL transition is his tendency to lose his balance, especially vs. quick interior penetrators. Overall, Schmitz must do a better job keeping his feet, hands and eyes on the same page, but he has the play strength and finishing attitude to execute at the NFL level. With improved consistency, he can be a functional pro starter.     

GRADE: 2nd-3rd Round (No. 59 overall)      

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2 hours ago, Phillyjet said:

With JMS on the Giants, Tippmann will be under a microscope.  I would have preferred JMS.  JD is betting on the athletic traits more than the film right now, which reveals the problems with Tippmann's hands and DT's getting in on his chest at times.  That's where his height is a liability.   

tippman gave up only 1 sack in almost 600 pass pro snaps......

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