JD playing chess?!

[NOSIDE]

Don’t know if I’m overthinking- or JD is also masterfully planning- getting athletes and hoping to replace big money contract 

McDonald in the first round- can replace big contract Lawson next year 

Carter Warren- if he’s what the jets expect- can replace big money Duane Brown

JBG or Trey Dean- supposed to be atheletic and good safeties- can replace big money Whitehead if either pan out. 

Zaire, and if we can hit on any of 3 UDFAs, May be able to replace big money Moseley

Brownlee or a ton of UDFA WRs to replace Corey Davis 

PAY QUINNEN.

thoughts?

[Larz]

He’s a stick and pick BPA kinda guy early , then it’s move around in the later rounds to fill needs and then look for special teamers and projects late.

that’s what a lot of successful teams do, we’re just not used to it 

[68JET11]

1 hour ago, NOSIDE said:

Don’t know if I’m overthinking- or JD is also masterfully planning- getting athletes and hoping to replace big money contract 

McDonald in the first round- can replace big contract Lawson next year 

Carter Warren- if he’s what the jets expect- can replace big money Duane Brown

JBG or Trey Dean- supposed to be atheletic and good safeties- can replace big money Whitehead if either pan out. 

Zaire, and if we can hit on any of 3 UDFAs, May be able to replace big money Moseley

Brownlee or a ton of UDFA WRs to replace Corey Davis 

PAY QUINNEN.

thoughts?

Quick answer is YES....

[JTJet]

So you're saying JDs trying to do what all GMs do, every year, since the beginning of the NFL? 

Got it. 

[NOSIDE]

Except Jets GMs- we’re not used to competence. 

[laurenceofarabia]

Sustainable success. These steps are in that direction. With a little luck.

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[68JET11]

16 minutes ago, JTJet said:

So you're saying JDs trying to do what all GMs do, every year, since the beginning of the NFL? 

Got it. 

In his defense, when have you ever known a JETS GM to do that lol...

[Beerfish]

The world chess championship happens to be being played now, after 14 matches it is a tie between Ding Liren and Ian Neponmiachtchi,

They are going into the shorter time format games now.

 

[derp]

He tried to do this his first draft. Zuniga for Jenkins, Davis for Maye, Clark for Lewis, could even say Mims for Perriman, long-term backup roles for Perine and Morgan.

Hope last year was an indication he’s gotten better at drafting and he did get away from this approach the last couple drafts, but I think it only feels new because it didn’t work at all last time he tried it.

[Falco21]

5 minutes ago, derp said:

He tried to do this his first draft. Zuniga for Jenkins, Davis for Maye, Clark for Lewis, could even say Mims for Perriman, long-term backup roles for Perine and Morgan.

Hope last year was an indication he’s gotten better at drafting and he did get away from this approach the last couple drafts, but I think it only feels new because it didn’t work at all last time he tried it.

I still think a lot of people forget that his first draft ever as a GM was a covid year. College pro days were cancelled, as were private workouts. A first time GM in his first year had to navigate a draft with half the events cancelled that help determine best fits. 

I do not think it was a coincidence that as soon as things went back to normal, the results got progressively better and he seems to now be hitting his stride 

[undertow]

9 minutes ago, derp said:

He tried to do this his first draft. Zuniga for Jenkins, Davis for Maye, Clark for Lewis, could even say Mims for Perriman, long-term backup roles for Perine and Morgan.

Hope last year was an indication he’s gotten better at drafting and he did get away from this approach the last couple drafts, but I think it only feels new because it didn’t work at all last time he tried it.

Last year he hit on Garret WIlson, Sauce Gardner, and Breece Hall my mailman Larry could have picked those players he's had an up and down draft record so far this draft is a big one some of these guys need to hit.

[derp]

1 minute ago, Falco21 said:

I still think a lot of people forget that his first draft ever as a GM was a covid year. College pro days were cancelled, as were private workouts. A first time GM in his first year had to navigate a draft with half the events cancelled that help determine best fits. 

I do not think it was a coincidence that as soon as things went back to normal, the results got progressively better and he seems to now be hitting his stride 

I didn’t forget, I don’t think it’s relevant to the idea that drafting this way isn’t new for Douglas. The point wasn’t that this draft won’t work out because it didn’t work out last time, but simply that if it seems new then  folks probably don’t remember him doing it before because nobody saw any results from it.

[Jethead]

Extend JD!

[derp]

1 minute ago, undertow said:

Last year he hit on Garret WIlson, Sauce Gardner, and Breece Hall my mailman Larry could have picked those players he's had an up and down draft record so far this draft is a big one some of these guys need to hit.

I think there was more pushback on those picks at the time that we remember in retrospect…but I agree it’s a little up in the air - that’s why I used hope in the post. I don’t think we know he’s improved. If this is a good draft I’ll be cautiously optimistic he’s turned a corner.

[Jethead]

Pay Quinnen first!

[undertow]

Just now, derp said:

I think there was more pushback on those picks at the time that we remember in retrospect…but I agree it’s a little up in the air - that’s why I used hope in the post. I don’t think we know he’s improved. If this is a good draft I’ll be cautiously optimistic he’s turned a corner.

There was debate on what positions should be taken but all the players he hit on were blue chippers and stars in college.....I'm not killing JD he has done a solid job overall but his draft record has been OK at best....20 was terrible, 21 was OK even tho he took Wilson, and last year was great.... this year is big.

[TommyT]

2 hours ago, NOSIDE said:

JD playing chess?!

Yes, next question…

[LSJF]

27 minutes ago, undertow said:

Last year he hit on Garret WIlson, Sauce Gardner, and Breece Hall my mailman Larry could have picked those players he's had an up and down draft record so far this draft is a big one some of these guys need to hit.

Looks like the Texans didn’t draft Gardner, I guess their mailman told him to pick Stingley at three… What a friggin, lame take,

[Cyberjet]

36 minutes ago, Falco21 said:

I still think a lot of people forget that his first draft ever as a GM was a covid year. College pro days were cancelled, as were private workouts. A first time GM in his first year had to navigate a draft with half the events cancelled that help determine best fits. 

I do not think it was a coincidence that as soon as things went back to normal, the results got progressively better and he seems to now be hitting his stride 

Plus he did not have his scouts. Was relying on Gase’s staff and scouts

[GreenReaper]

When JD was a young'un...

[MR.GANGGREEN28]

No he’s just playing GM, something we aren’t very accustomed to

[Jets0712]

I still think a lot of people forget that his first draft ever as a GM was a covid year. College pro days were cancelled, as were private workouts. A first time GM in his first year had to navigate a draft with half the events cancelled that help determine best fits. 
I do not think it was a coincidence that as soon as things went back to normal, the results got progressively better and he seems to now be hitting his stride 

I honestly do give him a pass on his 1 st year. After that he owns Everything


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[BornJetsFan1983]

3 hours ago, undertow said:

Last year he hit on Garret WIlson, Sauce Gardner, and Breece Hall my mailman Larry could have picked those players he's had an up and down draft record so far this draft is a big one some of these guys need to hit.

Oh man here comes the fairytale. Oh it was so easy to see it coming huh. Funny how we ended up with them and other nfl teams couldnt see it. I mean you and your mailman are smarter than nfl gm that get paid to do it. Hell woody should give you a call and schedule some consultation. Do you think you will have some time available in your im sure very booked sched?

Give me a break.

Also wants joes first draft with mac's scouts? Did I make that up?maybe who knows. I wish this guy mailman Larry was here to help me figure it out

[BornJetsFan1983]

3 hours ago, undertow said:

There was debate on what positions should be taken but all the players he hit on were blue chippers and stars in college.....I'm not killing JD he has done a solid job overall but his draft record has been OK at best....20 was terrible, 21 was OK even tho he took Wilson, and last year was great.... this year is big.

Oh here is the back pedal.

I was wondering where it would be.

Man all the hits were highly ranked players that were stars in college? You don't say man you think other teams would pick up on that and people would draft them first right? Jesus Christ keep digging that whole. It's so ridiculous what you are saying. Yeah bud every first round pick is a stud blue chipper thats that they got picked Sherlock .

Anyway whatever it's late and just an annoying take. 

 

[BornJetsFan1983]

3 hours ago, derp said:

He tried to do this his first draft. Zuniga for Jenkins, Davis for Maye, Clark for Lewis, could even say Mims for Perriman, long-term backup roles for Perine and Morgan.

Hope last year was an indication he’s gotten better at drafting and he did get away from this approach the last couple drafts, but I think it only feels new because it didn’t work at all last time he tried it.

Don't forget zaniga was a bonafide first rounder!!! That literally was sold on draft night and by other reporters.

Good God he didn't work out.lol

 

 

[HawaiisOnlyJetsFan]

29 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

Also wants joes first draft with mac's scouts? Did I make that up?maybe who knows. I wish this guy mailman Larry was here to help me figure it out

Believe you are correct. Think he changed the grading system, but didn't start changing scouting personnel until year 2.

[Jet2020]

6 hours ago, Larz said:

He’s a stick and pick BPA kinda guy early , then it’s move around in the later rounds to fill needs and then look for special teamers and projects late.

that’s what a lot of successful teams do, we’re just not used to it 

Oh yeah cuz no one had McDonald falling to us at 15 right? BPA my @$$. JD was a deer in headlights. Had no clue wtf he had to do when Brod was stolen from his precious 15th pick. He also screwed up the AR trade and caved like a desperate wh*re.

McDonald is a third down LB at best at his current frame. don’t fool yourself thinking he’s the next DROY. Could’ve had him at the end of the first round had he wanted to. BPA lol. 

[NYDreamer]

I think if you look at two specific positions in DE and TE, the last two drafts allow you to move off of Uzmizadha (SP) and Conklin keeping Ruckert/Kuntz/Yeboa.  DE, you can keep Johnson and now McDonald possibly Huff.

[Larz]

4 hours ago, Jet2020 said:

Oh yeah cuz no one had McDonald falling to us at 15 right? BPA my @$$. JD was a deer in headlights. Had no clue wtf he had to do when Brod was stolen from his precious 15th pick. He also screwed up the AR trade and caved like a desperate wh*re.

McDonald is a third down LB at best at his current frame. don’t fool yourself thinking he’s the next DROY. Could’ve had him at the end of the first round had he wanted to. BPA lol. 

You think he had other players rated ahead of 4 but took him because he was totally unprepared for the board falling the way it did like he never ran a “nightmare scenario “ to determine who to pick ?

what exactly is this based on? 

Saleh said to the kid “we’re getting you out of the 4I and putting you into the wide 9”

they not only were prepared to take him, they already have a plan for him. 
 

other than that, solid take bro 

[Kelly to Allen no huddle]

11 hours ago, NOSIDE said:

Don’t know if I’m overthinking- or JD is also masterfully planning- getting athletes and hoping to replace big money contract 

McDonald in the first round- can replace big contract Lawson next year 

Carter Warren- if he’s what the jets expect- can replace big money Duane Brown

JBG or Trey Dean- supposed to be atheletic and good safeties- can replace big money Whitehead if either pan out. 

Zaire, and if we can hit on any of 3 UDFAs, May be able to replace big money Moseley

Brownlee or a ton of UDFA WRs to replace Corey Davis 

PAY QUINNEN.

thoughts?

Warren is a steal. Bye bye beckton 

[Tooooon]

11 hours ago, Larz said:

He’s a stick and pick BPA kinda guy early

In what universe was McDonald BPA?  People are using “JD takes BPA” as an excuse for any bad picks. 

[Larz]

10 minutes ago, Tooooon said:

In what universe was McDonald BPA?  People are using “JD takes BPA” as an excuse for any bad picks. 

You know they use their own board, right ? 

[Tooooon]

22 minutes ago, Larz said:

You know they use their own board, right ? 

I do. Did you see their board?

[Matt39]

10 hours ago, derp said:

He tried to do this his first draft. Zuniga for Jenkins, Davis for Maye, Clark for Lewis, could even say Mims for Perriman, long-term backup roles for Perine and Morgan.

Hope last year was an indication he’s gotten better at drafting and he did get away from this approach the last couple drafts, but I think it only feels new because it didn’t work at all last time he tried it.

Kids drafted this year all seem to have high football character and all played a lot of games. Zuniga was always hurt and one conversation with Davis you could tell he was a stoner. Mims was spacey too.

[derp]

2 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Kids drafted this year all seem to have high football character and all played a lot of games. Zuniga was always hurt and one conversation with Davis you could tell he was a stoner. Mims was spacey too.

https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/26/jets-joe-douglas-former-college-captains-2020-nfl-draft/