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This has all the hallmarks of JD's disastrous 2020 draft. I'm not impressed at all. It smelled of panic in the first round with them frantically trying to trade out as the clock wound down. It looked like a Chinese fire drill and then they way overdrafted McDonald without a major need for such. Just watch the league scheme plays where his bull rush will be used against him, taking himself out of the play. Belichek will have a field day with this. If they loved Tippmann so much, then get him in the first round and then they could have gotten Cedric Tillman or Jalin Hyatt in the second round, true weapons for Rodgers who can stretch the field. We waste 2 picks on TE and RB where there was little need. No first rounder next year after Rodgers hits the mark will sting heavily. Unbelievable. Giants crushed it with drafting Hyatt. Watch what this kid does this season.

 

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9 hours ago, AFJF said:

Multiple outlets and their grades of the Jets draft.

 

PFF: A+

Mel Kiper: B

Chad Reuter: B

Sports Illustrated: B-

WaPo: B-

JetNation: C

NY Post: C

SNY: C-

Sporting News: F




1 A

1 F

4 B's

3 C's

Sounds about right.





 

Wow, so surprising the New York rags give them the lowest grades. Grading at this point is ridiculous. 

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7 hours ago, AFJF said:

This I can understand.  Changing the subject definitely the way to go for you at this point.  I'll come with you.

 

Sure do, bud.  I do a fair bit of reading and traveling.  Finished up a book recently called Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell.  The author is a douche but the data is interesting.  Also gives some very cool info on the early days of the Beatles and how they were such a strong stage presence at an early age.  And if you like hockey, there's a stat in there that will blow your mind.

Traveling has been kina' light lately because it's not easy getting around with a family of four, but when you plan your next trip to Europe, I'd recommend Brugge, Belgium.  One of my favorite cities and the world and grossly underrated.  For a less populated version of Brugge I would recommend Ghent.  A little tougher to get around if you only speak English though.

Take care, buddy.

 

That's awesome, living the good life.  I love you.

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17 minutes ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said:

This has all the hallmarks of JD's disastrous 2020 draft. I'm not impressed at all. It smelled of panic in the first round with them frantically trying to trade out as the clock wound down. It looked like a Chinese fire drill and then they way overdrafted McDonald without a major need for such. Just watch the league scheme plays where his bull rush will be used against him, taking himself out of the play. Belichek will have a field day with this. If they loved Tippmann so much, then get him in the first round and then they could have gotten Cedric Tillman or Jalin Hyatt in the second round, true weapons for Rodgers who can stretch the field. We waste 2 picks on TE and RB where there was little need. No first rounder next year after Rodgers hits the mark will sting heavily. Unbelievable. Giants crushed it with drafting Hyatt. Watch what this kid does this season.

 

Truth is you have no idea how the draft will turn out. Unless you watched as much film as the Jets scouts who had a generational draft last year, why should I believe you over them unless it's your job to watch film all day and that you met a bunch of them in person. To be upset at this point is nuts.

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38 minutes ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said:

This has all the hallmarks of JD's disastrous 2020 draft. I'm not impressed at all. It smelled of panic in the first round with them frantically trying to trade out as the clock wound down. It looked like a Chinese fire drill and then they way overdrafted McDonald without a major need for such. Just watch the league scheme plays where his bull rush will be used against him, taking himself out of the play. Belichek will have a field day with this. If they loved Tippmann so much, then get him in the first round and then they could have gotten Cedric Tillman or Jalin Hyatt in the second round, true weapons for Rodgers who can stretch the field. We waste 2 picks on TE and RB where there was little need. No first rounder next year after Rodgers hits the mark will sting heavily. Unbelievable. Giants crushed it with drafting Hyatt. Watch what this kid does this season.

 

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4 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

Look, I know people throw around this premise a lot.   Ultimately having a better defense of course helps your team win and that's why they play the games.  But it's a stretch to say it helps your QB...

With that said, if the Jets didn't already have a pash rush specialist that leads the league in pressure rate - but can only play 20% of the snaps - because he can't play the run - I might be inclined to agree with you.  But they do and this McD is unlikely to top the best pressure rate in the NFL

Ultimately though, this off-season should have been about ramping up the offensive pieces around 40 year old Rogers.  Offense is why teams win Super Bowls in todays NFL.

Rodgers just left his team partly because the team refused to help him early in the draft while reaching for unnecessary defensive players (or QB's).  

You brought Rodgers in, with a one-sided trade and took on $110mm in salary - it's absolutely mind boggling to not have done more in FA and drafting a role playing, sub package edge rusher in the first round.

I just don't see the logic in it at all.

 

I seem to remember the Jets signing AR’s top WR from last season and one of his best friends, bringing in the OC that was with him for 2 straight MVP’s, and bringing in under the radar guys like Hardman, to improve the special teams and speed on offense. When you already have the offensive player of the year and the would’ve been offensive player of the year as your core WR/RB, adding a compliment to Breece in the draft with Izzy, and drafting a Center/OT, I think we have a good core around him to help him succeed. 
 

Plus the off-season is not over. Getting another WR by trade or free agency is still possible. The TE room is pretty full. 

3 high upside UDFA WR’s could also turn into a depth WR or 2, in case of injury. Plus a very highly regarded RB as a UDFA. 

Oh yeah, the defense is pretty good too  

Whatever. It’s a very good sign that you don’t like what we did thus far. 

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52 minutes ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said:

This has all the hallmarks of JD's disastrous 2020 draft. I'm not impressed at all. It smelled of panic in the first round with them frantically trying to trade out as the clock wound down. It looked like a Chinese fire drill and then they way overdrafted McDonald without a major need for such. Just watch the league scheme plays where his bull rush will be used against him, taking himself out of the play. Belichek will have a field day with this. If they loved Tippmann so much, then get him in the first round and then they could have gotten Cedric Tillman or Jalin Hyatt in the second round, true weapons for Rodgers who can stretch the field. We waste 2 picks on TE and RB where there was little need. No first rounder next year after Rodgers hits the mark will sting heavily. Unbelievable. Giants crushed it with drafting Hyatt. Watch what this kid does this season.

 

The same BB who drafted a punter and a kicker and has done nothing without Tom Brady. Gotcha. 

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8 hours ago, Scott Dierking said:

Missing out on a questionable durability slot guy that lacks physicality at the point of catch radius changes the course of an entire draft from average to exceptional? Wow.

Thank you...

Why doesn't Mecole Hardman potentially not fill this role!!!

Hardman spent just over half of his time in the slot for the Chiefs throughout his four years with the team (per PFF), 

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8 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

I give the draft a C.  It cant be any higher when you botch the 1st round pick as bad as Joe did.

If he drafted JSN at 15, its an A.

Ummmmm please explain to me why JSN is better than Mecole Hardman at this time; and why we should have drafted him when we had few picks......

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1 hour ago, Cut Jet Penalty Makers said:

Just watch the league scheme plays where his bull rush will be used against him, taking himself out of the play. 

 

So much to unpack in that post , let’s just explore this.  He doesn’t just try to run around the corner like jachai polite did. He has good hand placement, actual moves and most importantly, when he gets to the QB he gets the ball out. 

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40 minutes ago, JETS SB said:

I seem to remember the Jets signing AR’s top WR from last season and one of his best friends, bringing in the OC that was with him for 2 straight MVP’s, and bringing in under the radar guys like Hardman, to improve the special teams and speed on offense. When you already have the offensive player of the year and the would’ve been offensive player of the year as your core WR/RB, adding a compliment to Breece in the draft with Izzy, and drafting a Center/OT, I think we have a good core around him to help him succeed. 
 

Plus the off-season is not over. Getting another WR by trade or free agency is still possible. The TE room is pretty full. 

3 high upside UDFA WR’s could also turn into a depth WR or 2, in case of injury. Plus a very highly regarded RB as a UDFA. 

Oh yeah, the defense is pretty good too  

Whatever. It’s a very good sign that you don’t like what we did thus far. 

Also, they brought in Mecole Hardman who was signed begging to be used more in the slot.

I don't get all of the JSN obsession!

 

 

When we just signed this guy JSN would have been a silly vanity and luxury pick!

 

 

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1 hour ago, Greensleeves said:

Truth is you have no idea how the draft will turn out. Unless you watched as much film as the Jets scouts who had a generational draft last year, why should I believe you over them unless it's your job to watch film all day and that you met a bunch of them in person. To be upset at this point is nuts.

I'm on record here stating that JD's 2020 draft was a disaster very soon after it was completed. That is now confirmed beyond any doubt. What were your comments at the time? 

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2 hours ago, AFJF said:

I suggested he could be a DROY candidate on twitter and the tears are still flowing.

As much as I wanted an every down guy in that spot, you can't complain about the McDonald pick because if he does what they're asking him to do, his reps will be low but impact will be huge.

It really comes down to if he can play or not.   If feel like Bruce Irvin us a good comp and I don’t think Irvin justifies #15.  Would definitely like to see McDonald become a terror of the edge but anything between Irvin and Huff is a disappointment. 

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28 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said:

Also, they brought in Mecole Hardman who was signed begging to be used more in the slot.

I don't get all of the JSN obsession!

 

 

When we just signed this guy JSN would have been a silly vanity and luxury pick!

 

 

Mecole Hardman is an elite weapon? Seriously?

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49 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said:

Ummmmm please explain to me why JSN is better than Mecole Hardman at this time; and why we should have drafted him when we had few picks......

Go watch this year’s Rose Bowl and then ask that question again.

15 receptions 346 yards 3 TDs that’s a good season for Hardman.

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11 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Go watch this year’s Rose Bowl and then ask that question again.

15 receptions 346 yards 3 TDs that’s a good season for Hardman.

That isn't the issue...

The key is we already have a slot WR on the books, JSN might be slightly better than Mecole, maybe, but JSN is a rookie coming in and slot WR wasn't a position of need, nor was he the BPA or the Jets would have taken him; and the fact that JSN didn't go in the top ten in a weak WR class tells you all you need to know.  So no I wouldn't give the Jets a grade of D or lower, or a disaster just because this cat wasn't drafted.

My B grade for the draft not knowing anything today, except the potential for anybody, seems just about right to me,

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11 hours ago, slats said:

You posted this in the draft thread, and I could not disagree with you more. I think I would lost my proverbial **** if the Jets drafted a TE in the first round. When it comes to positional value, only QB is ranked higher than edge while TE battles it out for the bottom with RB and safety. There’s a reason he was still there at #25. Kelce was a third round pick. That’s where you draft TEs. 

In general I think you are right on target here.  I mean we drafted Kyle Brady in the first round, and he was as close to garbage as you can get.  

Now, the best tight end in the history of the Jets was in my opinion Richard Caster.  The Jets got him in the 2nd round, and he made the pro bowl 3 times for the Jets.  I am old enough to watch every game he played, and he would have been a pro bowl player in today's NFL.  He was 6'5" and 228 pounds when drafted, and was good enough to also play wide receiver for the Jets at times.  If Richard Caster was in today's draft, I would definitely have drafted him in the first round.

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The one thing the Jets defense was really bad at last season, was creating turnovers. I think McDonald's value at that spot was determined by the fact that this is a guy that can stop an offense with just one play. 

Or maybe we all enjoyed the Lions converting on 3rd and twenty so much that we can't wait to see it again, next year?

 

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12 hours ago, AFJF said:

Multiple outlets and their grades of the Jets draft.

 

PFF: A+

Mel Kiper: B

Chad Reuter: B

Sports Illustrated: B-

WaPo: B-

JetNation: C

NY Post: C

SNY: C-

Sporting News: F





 

 You misread the PFF article.

PFF graded the Jets at B-.

The A+ grade was for the Giants.

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5 hours ago, jgb said:

I don’t get how going EDGE doesn’t help this team win although Fidelio has gone full dark side — at the worst possible moment, I think. Guy has been a perfectly-accurate contrarian indicator to date so more evidence of a great Jets season on tap.

I’m betting McDonald for DROTY because Fidelio has been so outrageously wrong about everything. 9 sacks incoming.

If he gets 9 sacks the Jets are going to be unbelievably good.  I was talking to someone today and I said he is either a 12 sack a year guy or not in the league long. I am okay with the swing for the fences.

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1 hour ago, Ron Rico said:

The one thing the Jets defense was really bad at last season, was creating turnovers. I think McDonald's value at that spot was determined by the fact that this is a guy that can stop an offense with just one play. 

 

Those 35” arms & 85” wingspan should help with creating fumbles, deflecting passes and taking down the QB

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6 minutes ago, Maxman said:

If he gets 9 sacks the Jets are going to be unbelievably good.  I was talking to someone today and I said he is either a 12 sack a year guy or not in the league long. I am okay with the swing for the fences.

After listening to his introductory press conference, I don’t see anyway this young man will allow anything to prevent him from achieving his goals….which is to change the trajectory of his family’s life. 

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3 minutes ago, Maxman said:

I watched his intro presser before I put it on YouTube. That passing of his brother shaped him and gave him focus. He seems incredibly focused and he says he is 240 right now and will show up weighing 250. He doesn't see it impacting his speed. Fingers crossed, he seems like such a good kid.

I was so struck by him stating that he didn’t get a college scholarship, he was going to join the Army. Whatever it takes to create a better life for himself. Blue collar mentality with a life perspective beyond his years.

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