Is this better than Favre?

[AlexVanDyke]

I don’t recall the hype being this strong on 08.  I know the trade was later in the off season but I just don’t remember this positivity…am I remembering wrong?.   

[Maxman]

This is bigger than Favre because the team is so much more complete.

[Hex]

When Farve was signed by the Jets, he hadn't won an MVP award in over a decade.

Rodgers is 1 year removed from 2 in a row.

Plus, this is a better team overall.

[Jet2020]

08 hype was real. We had been loading up for it in 07 and 08 with the OL rebuild with Woody n Faneca to join Mangold, Brick n Moore. It was the best OL group we’ve ever had. Then we spent heavily in the FA on other players as well. 

[PS17]

2 minutes ago, Maxman said:

This is bigger than Favre because the team is so much more complete.

The 2008 roster was pretty damn good. Best offensive line in the league, Jenkins was a DPOY candidate, Revis started to blossom. Favre did more than enough to win until he got hurt. A huge what-if season. 

[#27TheDominator]

This is way better than Favre.  Rodgers actually wants to be here and isn't already planning his exit.

[BornJetsFan1983]

6 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said:

I don’t recall the hype being this strong on 08.  I know the trade was later in the off season but I just don’t remember this positivity…am I remembering wrong?.   

I remember after.we.wont 8 games they were sjy high. I thought we were going to the super bowl. I still have some memory of basically farce throwing out the play book saying all the plays sucked and he wasn't going to run them. Literally what every jet fan at the time.wish a QB would do. Farge was like how bout we try to actually score points and get first downs.

He junked the off plan game book. Cause all the plays were trash.

I think we are.gpijg to see a good off game plan and plays this year. God it will be refreshing 

 

 

[ChrebetOverKeyshawn]

Happened so late the hype was rushed but it skyrocketed after Brady got hurt week 1. I still remember after thrashing the undefeated Titans, sitting at 8-3, everything clicking, believing for the first time in my life the Jets were the undisputed best team in the NFL.

[Jet_Engine1]

12 minutes ago, AlexVanDyke said:

I don’t recall the hype being this strong on 08.  I know the trade was later in the off season but I just don’t remember this positivity…am I remembering wrong?.   

Brett Favre showed up for his intro presser unshaven in A tshirt he grabbed off a rack in the gift shop,  and wore his Packers shoulder pads the entire year. He introduced himself to the NY market by pulling his junk out for Jenn Sterger, and then lied about an injury to preserve his "streak". And he couldn't get out of town fast enough. 

 

Yeah, this is better 

[Green Ghost]

7 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

This is way better than Favre.  Rodgers actually wants to be here and isn't already planning his exit.

Yep. This is the big difference.

[bonkertons]

5 minutes ago, PS17 said:

The 2008 roster was pretty damn good. Best offensive line in the league, Jenkins was a DPOY candidate, Revis started to blossom. Favre did more than enough to win until he got hurt. A huge what-if season. 

Yeah the hype was definitely real, but Favre wasn't considered at the level that Rodgers is right now IMO, and that translated to the trade compensation we gave up.  Also we didn't have the weapons back then that we have now as far as I remember.  Wasn't it Coles, Cotchery at WR and Jones at RB?  None of them were considered elite or potentially elite players at the time, unlike what Wilson and Breece could be(are expected to be) next season.  

 

That '08 OL though was elite.  I think if absolutely everything goes right for us this year - Becton staying healthy and playing at or above his rookie level; AVT staying healthy and continuing to improve; Tippmann stepping right in at a high level - we could enter that territory but a lot will have to go right.  This defense is definitely better though.  That team didn't have Bart Scott yet, and Revis wasn't Revis yet.  This team is definitely much deeper and much more balanced overall heading into the season.  

 

Better QB, better weapons, better D, better overall depth.  Expectations back then were "we're a playoff team now baby", while today it's "we're a Super Bowl team baby".  

[win4ever]

To be honest, I don't think Favre was as good of a QB as Rodgers.   Rodgers has the exceptional arm strength and off-schedule play making, without the boneheaded interceptions.  

The hype is also larger because social media is a much bigger deal now, tons of podcasts and vlogs, forums and tweets to build up hype.  Back in those days, it was basically forums and day time radio, with TV sprinkled in.  

[Jet_Engine1]

1 hour ago, win4ever said:

To be honest, I don't think Favre was as good of a QB as Rodgers.   Rodgers has the exceptional arm strength and off-schedule play making, without the boneheaded interceptions.  

The hype is also larger because social media is a much bigger deal now, tons of podcasts and vlogs, forums and tweets to build up hype.  Back in those days, it was basically forums and day time radio, with TV sprinkled in.  

Favre owes a great deal of his rep and notoriety to John Madden. 

[undertow]

There was a ton of excitement when the Jets were 8-3 we were looked at as legit SB threats but like a few others mentioned Favre didn't embrace NY and didn't want to be here it was a pitstop to Minnesota GB wasn't trading him in the division.

[slimjasi]

10 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Favre owes a great deal of his rep and notoriety to John Madden. 

Favre was arguably the best QB in the league from 95-98ish and won 3 straight MVPs from 95-97, but as he aged, the game-changing (and sometimes season ending) interceptions became all too common. 
 

Rodgers has had more elite seasons and basically throws no interceptions by comparison. 

[Smashmouth]

2 hours ago, Hex said:

When Farve was signed by the Jets, he hadn't won an MVP award in over a decade.

Rodgers is 1 year removed from 2 in a row.

Plus, this is a better team overall.

this is also a QB that keeps himself in Amazing shape Im not sure Favre ever put that much effort into his training and eating habits

[Reasonable Jets Fan]

2 hours ago, AlexVanDyke said:

I don’t recall the hype being this strong on 08.  I know the trade was later in the off season but I just don’t remember this positivity…am I remembering wrong?.   

No

[rangerous]

one point that hasn't been brought up is that 2008 team was one year removed from a playoff appearance in mangini's first season. looking back i think the problem was favre staying in after getting injured.  the coaches should've known and maybe that's one of the reasons why mangini was fired. i remember too the seattle game where jones was running extremely well but schitty (or maybe favre) decided to start throwing the ball.  they lost a game they should've won.

[JetsFanatic]

7 hours ago, AlexVanDyke said:

I don’t recall the hype being this strong on 08.  I know the trade was later in the off season but I just don’t remember this positivity…am I remembering wrong?.   

Rodgers wants to be here, Favre never did.

[Gastineau Lives]

No hype was bigger in 08, everything can be found everywhere now, in a hundred different ways, a thousand times a day.

[The Crusher]

8 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

This is way better than Favre.  Rodgers actually wants to be here and isn't already planning his exit.

Favre showed up wearing a Minnesota Vikings T-shirt, 

[LAJohn]

8 hours ago, Maxman said:

This is bigger than Favre because the team is so much more complete.

Favre was coming off one of the best seasons of his career the year prior to the Jets. 

[Scott Dierking]

6 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Favre owes a great deal of his rep and notoriety to John Madden. 

Well his cannon arm and his penis also fit in that equation.

[LAJohn]

6 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

this is also a QB that keeps himself in Amazing shape Im not sure Favre ever put that much effort into his training and eating habits

Favre was the most durable NFL QB of all time. Not sure how anyone can knock him for keep in shape. 

The hype around Rodgers has been greater because we’ve known it was happening since March. Favre showed up at the beginning of training camp if I recall. Brett Favre was every bit the mega star Aaron Rodgers is. 

[section314]

Rodgers May be a kook but he’s not a POS like Farve. This is way better.

[New York Mick]

The biggest difference is Rodgers wants to be here. Farve used the Jets as a one year stop to go play for a rival team to the Packers. 

[Kleckineau]

Favre would take oxy over ayahuasca any day of the week.

[Sonny Werblin]

Bigger than Favre for because the Jets really had to work hard to convince Favre to come here, and if it wasn't clear at the time how reluctant he was to come out of retirement for the Jets, the fact that he left the Jets for the Vikings the next season and played for 2 seasons with the Vikings made it clear in hindsight.

In short, Aaron Rodgers picked the Jets, is excited to be here, and plans to play more than one season with the Jets. All of those things are the complete opposite of Favre.

[ScarletKnight89]

Yes cause Rodgers is better and actually is committed to the Jets. Favre just wanted to get to Minnesota.

[KRL]

This situation is better than Favre in a couple of ways:

- Rodgers wanted to come here while Favre wanted to go to MIN but was
"forced" to come to the Jets

- Rodgers has gotten here at the beginning of the off-season program (March/April)
where Favre got here during camp (July/August)

- With Rodgers agreeing to come at the beginning of free agency he's been able to
have a say in the construction of the team, Favre didn't

- Rodgers has an OC and an offense he "built" while Favre had to mesh with Schotty

- Rodgers seems re-energized and excited being here while Favre ultimately used us
as a stop over to get to MIN

[LAJohn]

19 minutes ago, KRL said:

This situation is better than Favre in a couple of ways:

- Rodgers wanted to come here while Favre wanted to go to MIN but was
"forced" to come to the Jets

- Rodgers has gotten here at the beginning of the off-season program (March/April)
where Favre got here during camp (July/August)

- With Rodgers agreeing to come at the beginning of free agency he's been able to
have a say in the construction of the team, Favre didn't

- Rodgers has an OC and an offense he "built" while Favre had to mesh with Schotty

- Rodgers seems re-energized and excited being here while Favre ultimately used us
as a stop over to get to MIN

From what I read Schotty pretty much threw his playbook out the window that year and the Jets were running the plays Favre liked. 

[LAJohn]

Here is an interesting article about how Mangini didn’t want Favre. Conversely the Jets coaching staff clearly wants Rodgers. I
 

https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2016/09/29/former-jets-coach-eric-mangini-didnt-want-brett-favre/

 

 

[WeCantDraftGoodQBs]

To me it’s like night & day.

The way Rodgers has been playing the last couple of years looks like he still has a lot left in his tank for at least next season and maybe the season after that too. The biggest difference to me is I believe he shares a similar personal motivation to prove something like “he who shall never be named” did (who wanted to prove that when he went to Tampa he was the reason for the Pats success and not Bellicheat).

[nycdan]

10 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

This is way better than Favre.  Rodgers actually wants to be here and isn't already planning his exit.

Rodgers isn't house-hunting in Minnesota?  That's refreshing.

[Warfish]

11 hours ago, Maxman said:

This is bigger than Favre because the team is so much more complete.

And Rodgers is a better QB, playing better at this age, than Favre was.