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He only played 20% of the snaps last year, roughly 11 snaps per game, so I dont see how it will be difficult to find similar usage from him again this year because you would assume the Jets will have more leads to protect.  And while I'm excited about McDonald, pass rushers also have a bit of a learning curve. So maybe Huff gets more opportunities early in the season as they bring McDonald along.  I guess it all just really depends on McDonald from that perspective but I just think you're going to see a very steady rotation that could change as the season goes on.

 

 

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I am not sure huff is in their long term plans. It is possible they let him walk and get a comp pick. If McDonald shows promise he will likely replace huff, then draft another edge rusher next year. I expect Lawson will also not be resigned (another comp pick) and JJ would replace him.

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Lawson & Huff will be interesting to watch because either one of them could be
traded before the mid-season deadline.  With so many young edges, a playoff
team could come knocking and offer a #2/#3 for either of them.  Douglas could
pull the trigger to re-coup the picks he gave up for Rodgers

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We just drafted a taller version of him.

Being a win now team I like having fresh pass rushers out there late in games. Especially if we’re playing with the lead which we’re not used to.

With us just spending back to back 1st rounders on DE… not sure we extend Huff. Likely can make money elsewhere as a starter, where here I’d imagine we would have McDonald, JJ and JFM as our top DEs next year.

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1 hour ago, Barkus said:

I am not sure huff is in their long term plans. It is possible they let him walk and get a comp pick. If McDonald shows promise he will likely replace huff, then draft another edge rusher next year. I expect Lawson will also not be resigned (another comp pick) and JJ would replace him.

After this year, Huff walks (McDonald), Lawson walks (JJ), and Davis walks.

That should net 3 decent comp pics in return.   Large contracts need to go to Q, then AVT, then Sauce and Wilson.

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1 minute ago, chirorob said:

After this year, Huff walks (McDonald), Lawson walks (JJ), and Davis walks.

That should net 3 decent comp pics in return.   Large contracts need to go to Q, then AVT, then Sauce and Wilson.

JJ and Huff play on the left side.  

At Iowa State, McDonald was pretty evenly split between left & right.  With his bend and long arms, I see the Jets wanting him to rush the QB’s blindside.  I have him on the right side.

The Jets are not just going to let Huff go IF he has a big year…. I see them potentially extending him mid year before he potentially explodes.

JFM might slide inside full time, he’ll at least have to play there more starting this year for our other Edges to get more reps.

Lawson is likely gone after this year.

In 2024, the Jets will be all in on a SB, not collecting comp picks for the next year.

Left Edge:  JJ (base); Huff (pass rushing specialist)

Right Edge:  Clemons (base); McDonald (pass rushing specialist)

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Huff is a keeper.  I would love to see the Jets extend him now before his numbers and price explode.

McDonald, Huff, and Johnson as the primary pass rushers over the next few years can be a force.  As the season goes on, I think we will begin to see McDonald and Huff as the edge rushers while the Jets start to phase Lawson out.  He simply hasn't been the same player since the Achilles tear.

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2 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

Huff is a keeper.  I would love to see the Jets extend him now before his numbers and price explode.

McDonald, Huff, and Johnson as the primary pass rushers over the next few years can be a force.  As the season goes on, I think we will begin to see McDonald and Huff as the edge rushers while the Jets start to phase Lawson out.  He simply hasn't been the same player since the Achilles tear.

This past season, he was one year removed from his Achilles tear. Usually takes players of his caliber about two seasons before they're back to full health. We might see a big year from Lawson.

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Just now, Jetsfan4life90 said:

This past season, he was one year removed from his Achilles tear. Usually takes players of his caliber about two seasons before they're back to full health. We might see a big year from Lawson.

I sure hope so, but the flip side of that statement is that a player (especially one that needs the explosiveness of a pass rusher) will never be the same after a torn Achilles.

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13 hours ago, JiF said:

He only played 20% of the snaps last year, roughly 11 snaps per game, so I dont see how it will be difficult to find similar usage from him again this year because you would assume the Jets will have more leads to protect.  And while I'm excited about McDonald, pass rushers also have a bit of a learning curve. So maybe Huff gets more opportunities early in the season as they bring McDonald along.  I guess it all just really depends on McDonald from that perspective but I just think you're going to see a very steady rotation that could change as the season goes on.

 

 

but i also think thats sort of the point. with the usage these rotational guys get, hard to see the jets paying big money for second tier pass rushers. they will pay guys like Quinnen, and rotate through guys like Huff if they are too $$.

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24 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

but i also think thats sort of the point. with the usage these rotational guys get, hard to see the jets paying big money for second tier pass rushers. they will pay guys like Quinnen, and rotate through guys like Huff if they are too $$.

It may be a point about something at some point in time but not this thread.  Lol.  The video talked nothing about his contract and strictly about his usage with this sudden plethora or pass rushers. 

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It’s probably unlikely that Huff gets extended here. He was on the field for 50% of the defensive snaps in 2021 and that dropped to 20% in ‘22, with his special teams duties doubling. He was much more effective as a pass rusher last year, probably the result of being a part of a much better defense and being used in a more targeted manner. But with three edges drafted in the last two years, it’s hard to see them paying out too much. I think he can and will get more than what the Jets will want to pay him on the open market, and JD will be happy to pick up the comp pick. 

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49 minutes ago, JiF said:

It may be a point about something at some point in time but not this thread.  Lol.  The video talked nothing about his contract and strictly about his usage with this sudden plethora or pass rushers. 

the title of this thread is literally....how much would it COST to extend bryce huff ?

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45 minutes ago, CSNY said:

Huff and MacDonald will be a devastating pass rushing combination for years to come. Foolish to consider trading Huff unless it’s an offer JD can’t refuse 

He won’t be traded. He’ll play the season here and probably walk in free agency. 

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1 hour ago, slats said:

It’s probably unlikely that Huff gets extended here. He was on the field for 50% of the defensive snaps in 2021 and that dropped to 20% in ‘22, with his special teams duties doubling. He was much more effective as a pass rusher last year, probably the result of being a part of a much better defense and being used in a more targeted manner. But with three edges drafted in the last two years, it’s hard to see them paying out too much. I think he can and will get more than what the Jets will want to pay him on the open market, and JD will be happy to pick up the comp pick. 

I think there's a high probability on your scenario playing out, however that would certainly be a major mistake to let him walk. Clemons and JJ aren't pass rushers. They're more so run stuffers who can adequately rush the passer. McDonald is unknown, however we're hoping he can turn into Haason Reddick. But to turn into just a 10 sack guy may take sometimes. Hope we dig into our piggy bank and pay him with guys like Lawson, Tomlinson, Davis, CJ (TE) and Conklin coming off the books. 

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4 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said:

I think there's a high probability on your scenario playing out, however that would certainly be a major mistake to let him walk. Clemons and JJ aren't pass rushers. They're more so run stuffers who can adequately rush the passer. McDonald is unknown, however we're hoping he can turn into Haason Reddick. But to turn into just a 10 sack guy may take sometimes. Hope we dig into our piggy bank and pay him with guys like Lawson, Tomlinson, Davis, CJ (TE) and Conklin coming off the books. 

I think this is the point in how JD wants to do things.  Have a guy with another in the pipeline.  If you get lucky you have two and you can let one walk. If not, you have to ante up.  I think they will let Huff walk absent a huge step up.  He is very good, but probably worth more to someone else.  Literally how you work the comp system.  Those guys are coming off the books, but they will need to be replaced and as Bit loves pointing out there is a hell of a lot of Rodgers money to account for.  

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5 hours ago, KRL said:

Lawson & Huff will be interesting to watch because either one of them could be
traded before the mid-season deadline.  With so many young edges, a playoff
team could come knocking and offer a #2/#3 for either of them.  Douglas could
pull the trigger to re-coup the picks he gave up for Rodgers

No one is offering a 2nd round pick for Lawson.  He has a bloated salary, and he is a 8 sack a year guy when he is at his absolute best.  I would be shocked if he got 8 sacks this year.  Huff is another issue.  I could see someone giving the Jets a 2nd round pick for Huff.  I definitely don't want to lose him though.  

If someone offered the Jets a 2nd round pick today for Lawson, Joe Douglas would be tripping over himself to accept that offer.

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3 hours ago, k-met57 said:

but i also think thats sort of the point. with the usage these rotational guys get, hard to see the jets paying big money for second tier pass rushers. they will pay guys like Quinnen, and rotate through guys like Huff if they are too $$.

It's a fair consideration.  I would replace the word second tier with specialist.  

Outside of Williams, JFM & Lawson, the Jets seem to be playing the specialist game.  I would estimate a 65-70% play rate for these 3.  Lawson needs to come down from last year's 80% rate. 

JJ & Clemons (as they develop) are likely best in the base pass/run defense and will most likely play at a clip between the 3 above & the specialists below.  Clemons is still behind Lawson and JJ's usage will depend on whether JFM slides over to the inside in the base defense.  Both should play more than last year.  

Jefferson, Huff, and McDonald are pass specialists.  With the Jets being more competitive and playing with more leads, I see these guys at a 20-30% play rate.

Woods is the run specialist and should play at about a 25-40% clip depending on whether JFM starts on the inside.     

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No way we are letting him walk without a fight if he gets 10+ sacks and a few forced fumbles in his 'role'.  We have no idea what his percentage will be because this year is different than last.   

Sacks and forced fumbles are impact plays that lead to wins.  Not something or someone that is easy to replace, especially w/ a compensatory late 3rd round pick. 

To be fair, he's not there yet but I do love his trajectory .. very difficult to answer the OP's question without seeing him play the first month of the year.   

The flawed logic I'm reading here is that we used a first round pick to find his replacement.  No, we used a first round pick to find Lawson's replacement and to create a pair of third down pass rushing studs to rush the QB from either end ... and up the middle w/ Q, JFM, and Jefferson.

Think about it... we spent a first round pick for a pass rushing specialist in McDonald.  That should make it clear that part time IMPACT players are valued by the Jets, especially in their defensive rotation.

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6 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

I’m so confused…

We’ve been looking for quality Edges for years..

Huff takes a big step forward last year, leading the league in pressure rate; #2 in pass rush win rate..

Has the fastest get-off in the NFL, began to make big plays (a few sacks, a game clinching fumble, a QB hit that led to an INT)..

Only 25 years old, good chance he continues to get better..

And some of us are talking about getting rid of him!!

God I hope JD and Saleh are not that foolish.  

seriously, just stack the talent... 

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2 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

No way we are letting him walk without a fight if he gets 10+ sacks and a few forced fumbles in his 'role'.  We have no idea what his percentage will be because this year is different than last.   

Sacks and forced fumbles are impact plays that lead to wins.  Not something or someone that is easy to replace, especially w/ a compensatory late 3rd round pick. 

To be fair, he's not there yet but I do love his trajectory .. very difficult to answer the OP's question without seeing him play the first month of the year.   

The flawed logic I'm reading here is that we used a first round pick to find his replacement.  No, we used a first round pick to find Lawson's replacement and to create a pair of third down pass rushing studs to rush the QB from either end ... and up the middle w/ Q, JFM, and Jefferson.

Think about it... we spent a first round pick for a pass rushing specialist in McDonald.  That should make it clear that part time IMPACT players are valued by the Jets, especially in their defensive rotation.

How they shift around snaps will be interesting to see. On the surface, a pass rush specialist drafted in the first round is going to see the field. Those snaps have to come from somewhere, and Huff, who already saw his playtime drop from 50% to 20% last year, would seem to be a candidate. 
 
On the other hand, you could see more JFM and Clemons inside this year with Huff and McDonald picking up their DE reps. Huff and McDonald on the field at the same time would be a pretty light DL. Good 3rd & 15 lineup. 
 
I’m pretty excited about the defense, and looking forward to seeing how it plays out this year. 

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6 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

I think this is the point in how JD wants to do things.  Have a guy with another in the pipeline.  If you get lucky you have two and you can let one walk. If not, you have to ante up.  I think they will let Huff walk absent a huge step up.  He is very good, but probably worth more to someone else.  Literally how you work the comp system.  Those guys are coming off the books, but they will need to be replaced and as Bit loves pointing out there is a hell of a lot of Rodgers money to account for.  

Worth more? What's the figures you have in mind? Plus I can't get all excited about losing Huff and picking up a day 3 pick in 2025 ...

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1 hour ago, Ghost said:

I think it would be absolutely STUPID to let Huff go. 

I can't believe what I'm reading as well. Extend or re-sign the beast!

 

27 minutes ago, RESNewYork said:

Isnt Lawson off books after the season. Use the cap space to re sign Huff. 

Anything other than allow him to just walk. 

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1 hour ago, LAD_Brooklyn said:

I can't believe what I'm reading as well. Extend or re-sign the beast!

 

Anything other than allow him to just walk. 

Isn’t it crazy? We bitched for 15 years about not having a pass rusher. Now we have a couple and they think it’s time to let them go? I’m confused. 

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2 hours ago, LAD_Brooklyn said:

Worth more? What's the figures you have in mind? Plus I can't get all excited about losing Huff and picking up a day 3 pick in 2025 ...

If he is cheap I am all for keeping him but how much do you expect to pay a guy thatbdidnt play more than 21 snaps on D in a game all year?  I don't think they trust him much against the run.  

They can't use Lawson's money for Rodgers and Huff.

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