"Running backs don't get any love"-

[Bronx]

 

 

[David Harris]

[The Crusher]

Neither could @Jetsfan80 for like 3 decades. Now look at him, just takes a little patience. 

[Larz]

Most of those guys were on that list with the drops, fumbles and allowed pressures 

[Joe W. Namath]

Just recently mccaffery, henry, dalvin cook, zeke etc signed real nice contracts for running backs.  Crappy, decline running backs dont get love. Good ones do.

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

12 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Just recently mccaffery, henry, dalvin cook, zeke etc signed real nice contracts for running backs.  Crappy, decline running backs dont get love. Good ones do.

Lol. Mccafrey got traded. Cook and zeke both got cut and Henry was rumored to be on the trading block. So, yea….. 

[Joe W. Namath]

14 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

Lol. Mccafrey got traded. Cook and zeke both got cut and Henry was rumored to be on the trading block. So, yea….. 

They all got paid massive contracts for running backs.  If you are a great talent at rb, you have nothing to worry about.

These mediocre declining backs.......thats another story.

[jgb]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

They all got paid massive contracts for running backs.  If you are a great talent at rb, you have nothing to worry about.

These mediocre declining backs.......thats another story.

So basically, the football version of “let them eat cake.”

[jgb]

5 hours ago, David Harris said:

I actually do have empathy for them. Their position carries the most risk, has the shortest average career length, and in high school with less developed passing games the best athletes are pushed into the position where they can have the greatest impact on the game.

I also think it’s smart team management to devalue the position but damn they are humans. NFL/NFLPA could help by raising the pension over the current 20k a year, but, well, I doubt they will significantly.

[Barry McCockinner]

The great thing about being a free man is that you have the choice to seek other opportunities at any time.

[David Harris]

1 hour ago, jgb said:

I actually do have empathy for them. Their position carries the most risk, has the shortest average career length, and in high school with less developed passing games the best athletes are pushed into the position where they can have the greatest impact on the game.

I also think it’s smart team management to devalue the position but damn they are humans. NFL/NFLPA could help by raising the pension over the current 20k a year, but, well, I doubt they will significantly.

They can take that free college education and do any job they want 

I’m feeling glib

[jgb]

2 hours ago, David Harris said:

They can take that free college education and do any job they want 

I’m feeling glib

Yeah and a ballet dancer can go be an accountant or whatever if her dance company tells her to hit the bricks at 27 years old but I would still feel sorry for her. It’s not just about the money. Society is better off overall when as many people as possible are able to do whatever thing they are passionate about, unless that thing is serial murder or heroin distribution.

[CSNY]

There will always be a place in the NFL for good running backs regardless of the way rules have favored the passing game 

In this old man’s eyes a dominant running game an average passing attack to keep opponents from crowding the line of scrimmage and excellent defense will always be a winning formula for sustained success

Build that type of team , we as Jets fans can just sit back relax and watch the Jets dominate, possess the ball for 40 of the 60 minutes and win by 14 points every game 🙏🙏

Complimentary football at its best !

[JiFtheOracle]

Did Melvin Gordon watch any film on his year?  He was absolutely trash, there is reason nobody wants him.  Lol

[slats]

9 hours ago, jgb said:

I actually do have empathy for them. Their position carries the most risk, has the shortest average career length, and in high school with less developed passing games the best athletes are pushed into the position where they can have the greatest impact on the game.

I also think it’s smart team management to devalue the position but damn they are humans. NFL/NFLPA could help by raising the pension over the current 20k a year, but, well, I doubt they will significantly.

100% agreed here. The position used to be the biggest stars and cornerstones of the game, now teams are criticized when they dare to select one in the first round. People here were upset when the Jets drafted Breece high in the second. 
 
Unfortunately for them, it is a position that should be low valued. It’s easily replaceable. There are a ton of these 5’10”, 210 lb fireplugs running a 4.5 40 who can step in and do the job. The planet is littered with them. The guys getting paid are in limited supply. QBs, obviously. The WRs with elite size/skills. The big men capable of moving. Then you got the average size, average speed guys and they play the lowest paid positions in the league: RB and safety. And for RBs, it’s even worse, because their careers are generally done by age 30. I do feel for them. Number one picks in fantasy, not worth getting paid in reality. It truly does suck. 

[Joe W. Namath]

Bijon robinson and gibbs were just taken at the top of the draft.  Breece hall was the entire jets offense last year.  Derrick henry ran the titans to an afc championship game appearance by himself one year.

Rbs are flourishing and the good ones get paid. 
 

This rb nonsense is an old narrative that just inst true anymore.  
 

 

[jgb]

29 minutes ago, slats said:

100% agreed here. The position used to be the biggest stars and cornerstones of the game, now teams are criticized when they dare to select one in the first round. People here were upset when the Jets drafted Breece high in the second. 
 
Unfortunately for them, it is a position that should be low valued. It’s easily replaceable. There are a ton of these 5’10”, 210 lb fireplugs running a 4.5 40 who can step in and do the job. The planet is littered with them. The guys getting paid are in limited supply. QBs, obviously. The WRs with elite size/skills. The big men capable of moving. Then you got the average size, average speed guys and they play the lowest paid positions in the league: RB and safety. And for RBs, it’s even worse, because their careers are generally done by age 30. I do feel for them. Number one picks in fantasy, not worth getting paid in reality. It truly does suck. 

It’s really disappointing to me when people say “well they can just go get another job.” I suspect it’s because even the league minimum puts a player in the top 0.5% of American salaries so, basically, **** them. Putting aside that the average RB career is three years, it’s a depressing lack of compassion to think that people better off than you personally are unworthy of empathy. If a regular Joe like most of us (me included) lost our job, is it just “tough sh*t suck it up” because there are homeless people who have it worse? Peoples’ struggles are real to them even if compared to you they have it relatively good.

[Dcat]

26 minutes ago, slats said:

100% agreed here. The position used to be the biggest stars and cornerstones of the game, now teams are criticized when they dare to select one in the first round. People here were upset when the Jets drafted Breece high in the second. 
 
Unfortunately for them, it is a position that should be low valued. It’s easily replaceable. There are a ton of these 5’10”, 210 lb fireplugs running a 4.5 40 who can step in and do the job. The planet is littered with them. The guys getting paid are in limited supply. QBs, obviously. The WRs with elite size/skills. The big men capable of moving. Then you got the average size, average speed guys and they play the lowest paid positions in the league: RB and safety. And for RBs, it’s even worse, because their careers are generally done by age 30. I do feel for them. Number one picks in fantasy, not worth getting paid in reality. It truly does suck. 

Very well stated.  In addition, I don't easily see a way of rescuing today's and future RBs from the dilemma. 

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

Did Melvin Gordon watch any film on his year?  He was absolutely trash, there is reason nobody wants him.  Lol

True, but at the same time bunch of QB's that are beyond trash yet still a market for them.

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Very well stated.  In addition, I don't easily see a way of rescuing today's and future RBs from the dilemma. 

A pension that can support a modest lifestyle would be a helluva start.

[JiFtheOracle]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Bijon robinson and gibbs were just taken at the top of the draft.  Breece hall was the entire jets offense last year.  Derrick henry ran the titans to an afc championship game appearance by himself one year.

Rbs are flourishing and the good ones get paid. 
 

This rb nonsense is an old narrative that just inst true anymore.  
 

 

3 of your 4 examples, are rookies.  You're proving the point.  Teams rather draft young then sign a RB to a second contract.  Barkley just went nuts and carried sh*tty Jones and the they're still afraid to give him a second contract.  There are very few examples around the league of teams either committing to a RB long term and/or signing one to second big contract. 

Henry is an outlier, in so many ways.  No team revolves their offense around a RB anymore and he was a bit of a late bloomer who was hitting his stride when his second contract was coming up.  

The value of the RB is 100% true and not old at all.  The market is literally telling you this is a fact as we debate signing Dalvin Cook or Zeke Elliot.

[Joe W. Namath]

8 minutes ago, JiF said:

3 of your 4 examples, are rookies.  You're proving the point.  Teams rather draft young then sign a RB to a second contract.  Barkley just went nuts and carried sh*tty Jones and the they're still afraid to give him a second contract.  There are very few examples around the league of teams either committing to a RB long term and/or signing one to second big contract. 

Henry is an outlier, in so many ways.  No team revolves their offense around a RB anymore and he was a bit of a late bloomer who was hitting his stride when his second contract was coming up.  

The value of the RB is 100% true and not old at all.  The market is literally telling you this is a fact as we debate signing Dalvin Cook or Zeke Elliot.

Thats like saying the jets are scared to sign quinnen, one of the best DTs in the game.  No one is scared, its called negotiating.

[JiFtheOracle]

7 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Thats like saying the jets are scared to sign quinnen, one of the best DTs in the game.  No one is scared, its called negotiating.

Did the Jets cut Quinnen Williams? 

 

[RoadFan]

Ironic, because I have heard from youth football coaches that most kids wants to play RB.  I wonder if that will change?

[Jet_Engine1]

12 hours ago, jgb said:

So basically, the football version of “let them eat cake.”

I also think it's unfair that all of the Buggy Whip craftsmen and manufacturers got shafted. Not to mention the poor dirigible builders. 😔 

[Dunnie]

Ironic, because I have heard from youth football coaches that most kids wants to play RB.  I wonder if that will change?

Kids follow the ball .. QB and RB are always highly sought after positions.

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[Joe W. Namath]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

Did the Jets cut Quinnen Williams? 

 

Nope, just like the giants havent cut barkley.

[Dunnie]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

3 of your 4 examples, are rookies.  You're proving the point.  Teams rather draft young then sign a RB to a second contract.  Barkley just went nuts and carried sh*tty Jones and the they're still afraid to give him a second contract.  There are very few examples around the league of teams either committing to a RB long term and/or signing one to second big contract. 

Henry is an outlier, in so many ways.  No team revolves their offense around a RB anymore and he was a bit of a late bloomer who was hitting his stride when his second contract was coming up.  

The value of the RB is 100% true and not old at all.  The market is literally telling you this is a fact as we debate signing Dalvin Cook or Zeke Elliot.

No doubt the market value is what it is .. the true value on the other hand ... i'm not so sure. I think 30 yrs old has always been the basic cut off.   So if you draft a stud at 22 or younger ... dude gets another contract.  You take an older guy at 25 years of age ... maybe not ... plus its more the mileage than the years .. no ?

[jgb]

39 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

I also think it's unfair that all of the Buggy Whip craftsmen and manufacturers got shafted. Not to mention the poor dirigible builders. 😔 

Lucky for you clowns aren’t obsolete yet 

[Jetsfan80]

6 hours ago, CSNY said:

There will always be a place in the NFL for good running backs regardless of the way rules have favored the passing game 

Sure, but because of the interchangeable nature of the position, individual RBs aren’t valued.  No one denies it’s still important to have a strong running game.  It’s simply undeniable that backs get screwed and typically fail to get a big 2nd contract.  

As a result their money goes to the OL, as those guys can stick around a long time and make a lot of different RBs look good.  

[Jetsfan80]

One simple solution:  Any player designated as a RB should only get a 3-year rookie deal with no team option.  It doesn’t fix the problem, as teams could still use the tag, but it would help a bit.  

[Bronx]

4 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

 Breece hall was the entire jets offense last year.

 

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, RoadFan said:

Ironic, because I have heard from youth football coaches that most kids wants to play RB.  I wonder if that will change?

Because RBs get the glory in the lower levels.  It’s tough to ask a 12-year old kid to consider his financial future by playing other positions.  

[David Harris]

10 hours ago, jgb said:

Yeah and a ballet dancer can go be an accountant or whatever if her dance company tells her to hit the bricks at 27 years old but I would still feel sorry for her. It’s not just about the money. Society is better off overall when as many people as possible are able to do whatever thing they are passionate about, unless that thing is serial murder or heroin distribution.

“Follow your passion” is actually often bad life advice

Anyway, in this particular case, Melvin Gordon has made $33 million in his career, now he is whining
 

[Jetsfan80]

15 minutes ago, David Harris said:

“Follow your passion” is actually often bad life advice

Explain