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https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/24/jets-todd-downing-double-agent-titans-nfl-analyst/

 

Analyst convinced ex-Titans OC Todd Downing was a 'double agent'

          

Mike Moraitis 

June 24, 2023 8:11 am ET

During his two-year stint as the Tennessee Titans’ offensive coordinator, fans often believed that Todd Downing was actively working against the team thanks to his questionable play-calling.

Part of the issue was Downing’s insistence on running the ball on first down, which would have been fine if the Titans found success.

But that was not the case thanks to teams stacking the box at the fourth-highest rate in the league against them, and Tennessee having a putrid offensive line.

The result was the Titans being forced into third downs often, and many times those third downs were less than manageable, especially for a Tennessee team that struggled to move the ball through the air.

Making that situation more frustrating was the fact that the Titans were actually the third-most efficient team when it came to throwing on first downs, as NFL analyst Warren Sharp pointed out.

 

 
 
 
 
 
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on 1st downs Tennessee had the #2 highest run rate despite Ds stacking the box at the #4 highest rate unsurprisingly the runs ranked #4 worst in efficiency but nothing stopped them from running into loaded boxes not even the fact that 1st down passes ranked #3 in efficiency
 
 
 
 
 
 
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there is no reason a team that sits where the Titans sit on this graphic should be running the ball at the #2 highest rate in the NFL absolutely no reason
 
 
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When taking everything into consideration, Sharp is hilariously convinced that Downing was a “double agent” working against the Titans, something Tennessee fans have certainly considered.

In case you’re not familiar with this spy term, a “double agent” is “a spy pretending to serve one government while actually serving another.”

Thankfully, the Titans came to their senses and fired Downing this offseason.

Since then, Downing has taken the passing-game coordinator job with the New York Jets, which is hilarious considering the Titans sported among the worst and least imaginative passing attacks in the NFL the past two years.

The good news for the Jets’ offense is, Downing is the pass-game coordinator of an offense led by a future Hall of Famer in Aaron Rodgers, so how badly could he really screw it up?

I’ll say this: if there’s anyone who can, it’s Downing.

While Downing certainly deserves the blame, one has to wonder how much influence head coach Mike Vrabel had on this approach. After all, the Titans have pretty much been this way throughout his tenure in Nashville, and we know Vrabel loves to run the damn ball.

If we see new offensive coordinator Tim Kelly running Derrick Henry into a wall on first down all year long once again without an adjustment, we’ll know that, at the very least, Vrabel has more to do with it than not.

 

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I really hope and pray that other teams try to load the Box against us this year that will be the wildest of wildest dreams right next to us winning the Super Bowl which coincidentally would happened if teams tried to load the Box against us this year.

Sent from the NY Jets /Zack Wilson Suicide Watch desk.

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25 minutes ago, Larz said:

Who is the titans RB again?   

And who was their QB that the TItans like so much they drafted  Malik Willis last year and Will Levis last year. They also gave away their only real WR in AJ Brown and had washed up scrubs like Robert Woods lead the team in receiving. 

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I feel like the point is being missed by comments above.

OCs are the most scrutinized coaches so this can’t be taken as pure fact. However, we are getting perspective from an analyst and the Titans beat/fans.  Both believe Downing is lousy.  

Hackett was bad in Denver.  We hated his father with the Jets. Not exactly Mike and Kyle Shanahan.   Downing has some issues.

Aaron Rodgers is special and likes Hackett.  But the Jets offensive staff appears to be well short of an Andy Reid…

Isn’t anybody a little concerned?

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44 minutes ago, RoadFan said:

I feel like the point is being missed by comments above.

OCs are the most scrutinized coaches so this can’t be taken as pure fact. However, we are getting perspective from an analyst and the Titans beat/fans.  Both believe Downing is lousy.  

Hackett was bad in Denver.  We hated his father with the Jets. Not exactly Mike and Kyle Shanahan.   Downing has some issues.

Aaron Rodgers is special and likes Hackett.  But the Jets offensive staff appears to be well short of an Andy Reid…

Isn’t anybody a little concerned?


Not really, no.  These guys just need to make sure they keep the coffee/ayahuasca coming and let Rodgers do the rest.  

After Rodgers is gone coaching changes can be addressed at that time.  

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1 hour ago, jetspenguin said:

I really hope and pray that other teams try to load the Box against us this year that will be the wildest of wildest dreams right next to us winning the Super Bowl which coincidentally would happened if teams tried to load the Box against us this year.

Sent from the NY Jets /Zack Wilson Suicide Watch desk.
 

To load the box or not?

We can crush you on the ground or in the air.  Hall will feast if teams sit back in coverage. 

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2 hours ago, RoadFan said:

I feel like the point is being missed by comments above.

OCs are the most scrutinized coaches so this can’t be taken as pure fact. However, we are getting perspective from an analyst and the Titans beat/fans.  Both believe Downing is lousy.  

Hackett was bad in Denver.  We hated his father with the Jets. Not exactly Mike and Kyle Shanahan.   Downing has some issues.

Aaron Rodgers is special and likes Hackett.  But the Jets offensive staff appears to be well short of an Andy Reid…

Isn’t anybody a little concerned?

Do you think the Seahawks researched Jets fans opinions about Pete Carroll and his time here or geno Smith before bringing either of them in?

Why are so many jets fans insecure and worried about the idiot fans from other teams? 

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2 hours ago, RoadFan said:

I feel like the point is being missed by comments above.

OCs are the most scrutinized coaches so this can’t be taken as pure fact. However, we are getting perspective from an analyst and the Titans beat/fans.  Both believe Downing is lousy.  

Hackett was bad in Denver.  We hated his father with the Jets. Not exactly Mike and Kyle Shanahan.   Downing has some issues.

Aaron Rodgers is special and likes Hackett.  But the Jets offensive staff appears to be well short of an Andy Reid…

Isn’t anybody a little concerned?

No. With Hackett, Rodgers threw for 47 and 38 TD's in 2020 and 2021. Over 4000 yards each year. And you're worried about Hackett? Rodgers will define the Jets' offense, not Hackett. And Todd Downing is not the OC; he's a passing coach. I'm curious what you think he's going to tell Aaron Rodgers or how he will influence play calling? He won't.

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23 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

No.  The claim is he called for run too often as their OC on 1st down, that’s what they’re whining about.  And as stated the rub was how good the passing game was on 1st down.  He’s not the OC here, he won’t ever call for a run while he’ll help Hackett with the passing game.  So what they’re complaining about is irrelevant.  Just as hating Hacketts father is.  
As been said over and over:

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Have him work with Zach Wilson the entire time.  Leave passing game to Rodgers. 

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Doesn’t anyone think vrable pretty wants the titans offense to be run first? No telling what downing was actually launched for. He had to deal with some pretty injuries as well as losing players and such. The ocs seem to take more heat than they deserve (except for schitty and milfy).  I’m not too upset the jets hired this guy. The only question is was he salehs or Douglas choice.

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22 hours ago, RoadFan said:

https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/24/jets-todd-downing-double-agent-titans-nfl-analyst/

 

Analyst convinced ex-Titans OC Todd Downing was a 'double agent'

          

Mike Moraitis 

June 24, 2023 8:11 am ET

During his two-year stint as the Tennessee Titans’ offensive coordinator, fans often believed that Todd Downing was actively working against the team thanks to his questionable play-calling.

Part of the issue was Downing’s insistence on running the ball on first down, which would have been fine if the Titans found success.

But that was not the case thanks to teams stacking the box at the fourth-highest rate in the league against them, and Tennessee having a putrid offensive line.

The result was the Titans being forced into third downs often, and many times those third downs were less than manageable, especially for a Tennessee team that struggled to move the ball through the air.

Making that situation more frustrating was the fact that the Titans were actually the third-most efficient team when it came to throwing on first downs, as NFL analyst Warren Sharp pointed out.

 

 
 
 
 
 
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Replying to @SharpFootball
on 1st downs Tennessee had the #2 highest run rate despite Ds stacking the box at the #4 highest rate unsurprisingly the runs ranked #4 worst in efficiency but nothing stopped them from running into loaded boxes not even the fact that 1st down passes ranked #3 in efficiency
 
 
 
 
 
 
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there is no reason a team that sits where the Titans sit on this graphic should be running the ball at the #2 highest rate in the NFL absolutely no reason
 
 
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When taking everything into consideration, Sharp is hilariously convinced that Downing was a “double agent” working against the Titans, something Tennessee fans have certainly considered.

In case you’re not familiar with this spy term, a “double agent” is “a spy pretending to serve one government while actually serving another.”

Thankfully, the Titans came to their senses and fired Downing this offseason.

Since then, Downing has taken the passing-game coordinator job with the New York Jets, which is hilarious considering the Titans sported among the worst and least imaginative passing attacks in the NFL the past two years.

The good news for the Jets’ offense is, Downing is the pass-game coordinator of an offense led by a future Hall of Famer in Aaron Rodgers, so how badly could he really screw it up?

I’ll say this: if there’s anyone who can, it’s Downing.

While Downing certainly deserves the blame, one has to wonder how much influence head coach Mike Vrabel had on this approach. After all, the Titans have pretty much been this way throughout his tenure in Nashville, and we know Vrabel loves to run the damn ball.

If we see new offensive coordinator Tim Kelly running Derrick Henry into a wall on first down all year long once again without an adjustment, we’ll know that, at the very least, Vrabel has more to do with it than not.

 

So TN. Stuggled running the ball and passing the ball but there was a problem on first downs running the ball even though they couldn't  pass either? 

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I feel like the point is being missed by comments above.
OCs are the most scrutinized coaches so this can’t be taken as pure fact. However, we are getting perspective from an analyst and the Titans beat/fans.  Both believe Downing is lousy.  

Hackett was bad in Denver.  We hated his father with the Jets. Not exactly Mike and Kyle Shanahan.   Downing has some issues.
Aaron Rodgers is special and likes Hackett.  But the Jets offensive staff appears to be well short of an Andy Reid…
Isn’t anybody a little concerned?

Really not concerned. Tenn’s best offensive player was the RB and teams had to key on him. No WR or competent QB to even consider a threat. I think opposing defenses just gave them the green light to throw the ball regardless of down and distance. Downing won’t be calling the plays, and as much as I despised Paul Hackett’s play calling when he was here, the son has had success with Rodgers in the past and a tight relationship, so it’s reasonable to expect more of the same.
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Crap OL or not, Mike Vrabel wants to put the ball in Henry's hands as much as he can. Statistically might not look like genius, but he's arguably the best back in football, big, physical, beats up defenders. Looks like an anomaly that's gonna happen when you look at the NFL only on a stat-oriented perspective rather than how games play out and teams call plays. How many times on 3rd down(or 2nd down) did Henry get the 1st down? 

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On 6/24/2023 at 10:00 PM, Jet Nut said:

No.  The claim is he called for a run too often as their OC on 1st down, that’s what they’re whining about.  And as stated the rub was how good the passing game was on 1st down.  That sucks?  
He’s not the OC here, he won’t ever call for a run while on 1st or any down.  He’s here to help Hackett and the team with the passing game.  So what they’re complaining about is irrelevant.  Just as hating Hacketts father is irrelevant.


As has been said over and over:

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The stated "rub" may be the result of running so often. IOW because they were so predictably running on 1st down, when they didn't it was more of a surprise than for most other teams.

So it doesn't stand to reason if they flipped to being pass-happy on 1st down that high passing efficiency on that down would've still been the same. As likely as not, doing so would've made the 1st & 10 running efficiency higher and the passing efficiency lower.

Everyone knows when the D has a better idea of what's coming, it's easier to defend. That's why the passing efficiency for everyone is suckier on 3rd & long than 2nd & short. That's always going to be a lower conversion rate, and Hackett's daddy used to try to counter that predictability by running draw plays on 3rd & 10-15 that never converted & had little to no chance of doing so either, but sometimes it got 7-8 yards against that D front. So yeah it added a few extra punt yards often enough, but had basically a 0% conversion rate in terms of extending the drive. 

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