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18 hours ago, FloridaJetsFan said:

Not trying to be a dick, but as someone who lives where this happened, people who don't follow the rules - no swimming during double-red flags, are the reason we are experiencing high drowning rates this season. They also really do put the lifeguards and other swimmers at risk.

But hey - we're on vacation, so we're gonna take full advantage of the ocean while we're here!! 

It’s been reported that there weren’t any red caution flags up. I don’t know if he didn’t know how to swim or what, just seems to be a tragic accident. 

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On 6/27/2023 at 9:09 PM, Joe W. Namath said:

I saw somewhere there have been almost 40 drowing desths in the ocean down here recently.  The rip currents have been crazy.

 

Bad news for RM and family.  A young heathy guy. 

No matter how fit or strong of a swimmer you are, the water will win if conditions are bad. Four years ago, I got wrecked in just three feet of water while swimming on LBI.  I knew there was a rip along with the violent chop, but I figured I'd be plenty safe very close in to the beach.  Got rag dolled and had my swim trunks stripped off while getting churned up under the surface..  You have zero chance against that kind of power. 

 

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2 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

 

Bad news for RM and family.  A young heathy guy. 

No matter how fit or strong of a swimmer you are, the water will win if conditions are bad. Four years ago, I got wrecked in just three feet of water while swimming on LBI.  I knew there was a rip along with the violent chop, but I figured I'd be plenty safe very close in to the beach.  Got rag dolled and had my swim trunks stripped off while getting churned up under the surface..  You have zero chance against that kind of power. 

 

The ocean is a powerful thing.  That is a huge part of the allure.  The rip was pulling you down?  I never really heard of that one.  The general rule is to stay above the water and swim sideways until you are out of the rip.  My parents were teachers and my Dad went to Beach L off Dune Road every summer day from some time in the early 1960s through his passing in 2021.  I went with him and whatever family members could come whenever I was off school or work.  That beach does not have life guards or the flags.  Just a dirt parking lot cut in the dune.  We were body surfing and boogie boarding with those little styrafoam cheapo boards from when we could walk.  We shared a surfboard, but that takes too much looking for a spot or timing the tide.  We just went after lunch and home for dinner.  I still go whenever I get the chance.

When I was around 12 or 13 Dad, my cousins and I were throwing the football into the waves.  I think it was a red flag at Tiana and Ponoquoge, but we were NOT going in the water.  Just picking the ball up on the shoreline.  Some local kid was chasing the balls down with us.  His parents were saying he was a great swimmer.  The break was pretty far off shore.  The other kid, R.E., was a little younger and he went for the ball and got started getting sucked out.  I ran over and grabbed his arm to pull him in, but it was sucking us both out so he was yelling out me to let him go.  We both got pulled out.  As fast as you could swim towards shore, you were going other direction.  My Dad jumped right in, but there was no way he was going to be able to swim us back in, so he just swam next to me.  I remember my cousin on the shore running back and forth trying to figure out what to do.  As we went further and further out I remember him looking absolutely tiny.  I remember telling my Dad "I give up"  He started egging me on thinking I meant I was planning to drown, but I just meant I wasn't going to swim and was going to float so I wouldn't get too tired.  I remember watching R.E., who had been way further out than us,   swimming back in like a rocket while we were still getting sucked out and him yelling encouragement to us.  At some point we got kicked out the back of the rip and swam back in like nothing.  It was very exhausting though.   I remember riding that wave back to sure and getting absolutely crushed.  I lay on my back with the water blasting me smiling and thinking we made it!  R.E.'s parents looked like they didn't even know he had been gone.  

After that, we read up on it and found out that you are supposed to swim sideways to get out of the rip.  Then you can just swim back to shore.   Swimming against the tide is futile.  I think that is what happens to all the people that claim "the sandbar just collapsed."  It isn't the sandbar collapsing, it is the rip is the space where the water goes from the shore side of the sandbar out to sea.  They can be crazy powerful.  We got a little better at reading the shore after that too.  We had always done that, but it was so rough and we weren't going in on that day we probably didn't pay enough attention.  I have not heard of rips pulling you down so much as out, but the water is not something to be trifled with. 

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1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

It’s been reported that there weren’t any red caution flags up. I don’t know if he didn’t know how to swim or what, just seems to be a tragic accident. 

You are correct. Okaloosa County Sheriffs Office just released that. Mallet's death WAS completely accidental and not related to double-red flag like the others.

 

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24 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

The ocean is a powerful thing.  That is a huge part of the allure.  The rip was pulling you down?

I got knocked over by a second wave that came quickly after one that I was prepared for.  The first one knocked me back a bit and then I started to get the salt water out of my eyes.  Another, bigger wave slammed into me while I was unprepared and not expecting it.  I got knocked back and under.  Between the turbulence from that wave and the rip, I got taken for a nice underwater ride with zero breath in my lungs.  I could not swim in any direction.  I was just getting churned around like a rag doll. I kept my head and reminded myself that I was only in a few feet of water.  As soon as the wild churning stopped, I'd be able to stand up.  

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15 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

The ocean is a powerful thing.  That is a huge part of the allure.  The rip was pulling you down?  I never really heard of that one.  The general rule is to stay above the water and swim sideways until you are out of the rip.  My parents were teachers and my Dad went to Beach L off Dune Road every summer day from some time in the early 1960s through his passing in 2021.  I went with him and whatever family members could come whenever I was off school or work.  That beach does not have life guards or the flags.  Just a dirt parking lot cut in the dune.  We were body surfing and boogie boarding with those little styrafoam cheapo boards from when we could walk.  We shared a surfboard, but that takes too much looking for a spot or timing the tide.  We just went after lunch and home for dinner.  I still go whenever I get the chance.

When I was around 12 or 13 Dad, my cousins and I were throwing the football into the waves.  I think it was a red flag at Tiana and Ponoquoge, but we were NOT going in the water.  Just picking the ball up on the shoreline.  Some local kid was chasing the balls down with us.  His parents were saying he was a great swimmer.  The break was pretty far off shore.  The other kid, R.E., was a little younger and he went for the ball and got started getting sucked out.  I ran over and grabbed his arm to pull him in, but it was sucking us both out so he was yelling out me to let him go.  We both got pulled out.  As fast as you could swim towards shore, you were going other direction.  My Dad jumped right in, but there was no way he was going to be able to swim us back in, so he just swam next to me.  I remember my cousin on the shore running back and forth trying to figure out what to do.  As we went further and further out I remember him looking absolutely tiny.  I remember telling my Dad "I give up"  He started egging me on thinking I meant I was planning to drown, but I just meant I wasn't going to swim and was going to float so I wouldn't get too tired.  I remember watching R.E., who had been way further out than us,   swimming back in like a rocket while we were still getting sucked out and him yelling encouragement to us.  At some point we got kicked out the back of the rip and swam back in like nothing.  It was very exhausting though.   I remember riding that wave back to sure and getting absolutely crushed.  I lay on my back with the water blasting me smiling and thinking we made it!  R.E.'s parents looked like they didn't even know he had been gone.  

After that, we read up on it and found out that you are supposed to swim sideways to get out of the rip.  Then you can just swim back to shore.   Swimming against the tide is futile.  I think that is what happens to all the people that claim "the sandbar just collapsed."  It isn't the sandbar collapsing, it is the rip is the space where the water goes from the shore side of the sandbar out to sea.  They can be crazy powerful.  We got a little better at reading the shore after that too.  We had always done that, but it was so rough and we weren't going in on that day we probably didn't pay enough attention.  I have not heard of rips pulling you down so much as out, but the water is not something to be trifled with. 

Man, I'm reliving a similar incident and know exactly what you felt as I learned that scary lesson growing up on the South Shore of LI. Like yourself I remember learning  to always read the breaks on rough days for signs of where the rips were to avoid. I have a vivid memory of seeing a younger kid wandering towards the edge of the rip one day and quickly going to him just as he started struggling trying to swim against it. Pulled him to the side and he said "Thanks, you saved my life!".  

 

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44 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

I got knocked over by a second wave that came quickly after one that I was prepared for.  The first one knocked me back a bit and then I started to get the salt water out of my eyes.  Another, bigger wave slammed into me while I was unprepared and not expecting it.  I got knocked back and under.  Between the turbulence from that wave and the rip, I got taken for a nice underwater ride with zero breath in my lungs.  I could not swim in any direction.  I was just getting churned around like a rag doll. I kept my head and reminded myself that I was only in a few feet of water.  As soon as the wild churning stopped, I'd be able to stand up.  

Thanks for the explanation.  I am not upvoting a post where you might have drowned, so this is my acknowledgment. 

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Sharks get all the publicity and people always express fear of the ocean because of sharks. Last summer on LI is an example with all the hysteria over shark sightings.  But shark attacks are incredibly rare. The real danger is the water itself.  Rip currents are horrific.  Some people get pulled in a couple of feet of water.  There are only about 5 deaths a year globally from shark attacks.  About 100 people die each year from rip currents in the US alone. 

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