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Make or Break : Can Michael Carter bounce back from a disappointing second season ?


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Bent - Wed, June 28, 2023 

NFL training camp starts at the end of July, which means players around the league are getting their last bits of offseason work in before the real work of trying to make the roster begins.For certain players, this season is what some may call “Make or Break,” meaning they need to put together a productive year or they could be looking for employment elsewhere at the end of the 2023-24 campaign.

We’ll highlight those players for the Jets, continuing today with running back Michael Carter.

2022 Stats

- 16 games (10 starts)

- 114 carries, 402 yards, three touchdowns (3.5 yards per carry)

- 41 receptions for 288 yards

Why Make or Break?

Carter was drafted in the fourth round by the Jets in 2021 and established himself as a fan favorite in his rookie season. He led the Jets with 639 rushing yards, was tied for the team lead with four rushing touchdowns and was fourth on the team with 36 receptions. He played a starring role in two of the team’s four wins as he rushed for 118 yards against Jacksonville and racked up 172 yards from scrimmage and a touchdown against the Bengals.In 2022, Carter’s fortunes changed. He started off the year splitting snaps with Breece Hall, but his playing time dwindled as Hall started to break out. When Hall suffered a season-ending injury in week seven, the Jets were expected to turn back to Carter, but they ended up giving opportunities to other players like James Robinson, Ty Johnson and Zonovan Knight ahead of him.No doubt frustrated with his role and lack of playing time, Carter really struggled down the stretch, gaining just 72 yards on 29 carries over the team's last eight games. However, the change in offensive coordinator and Aaron Rodgers arriving to play quarterback could give Carter exactly the kind of fresh start he needs. He remains one of the most popular players on the team among his teammates.

What will break it?

It was surprising to see Carter being so ineffective in 2022, especially as Hall had so much success in the same offense. Carter was one of the league leaders in broken tackle rate as a rookie but his numbers for forced missed tackles and yards after contact dropped off dramatically in 2022 so he needs to find a way to break out of that slump.Injures have been one of the things that has slowed him down. Despite only missing one game, Carter was dealing with a high ankle strain down the stretch, having also been troubled by an ankle issue at the end of his rookie year. He needs to prove he can be durable if he wants his workload to increase.Another factor was his apparent frustration with the offensive system and his lack of touches. Now that Nathaniel Hackett has taken over from Mike LaFleur as offensive coordinator, Carter will hope to get a clean slate but must show more patience if he has to wait for opportunities.One of the things Carter needed to improve in 2022 was his pass protection. However, he arguably regressed in that area. If he can’t prove himself to be a reliable pass protector, especially now that Rodgers is the player he’ll be tasked with protecting, then that will be another thing that keeps him off the field. Hopefully Rodgers’ experience will benefit Carter here because he’ll set the protection correctly and anticipate pressure better than Zach Wilson did last year.

What will make it?

Carter has talent, so if he can be healthy to start the year, he could produce well in an offense against which defenses will no longer be able to stack the box. If Hall is slow to hit full speed, then Carter will need to make the most of any playing time he gets in order to show that he can complement a healthy Hall rather than just being his backup.Indications are that Rodgers has been impressed with Carter as he’s been getting plenty of work during the offseason with Hall still rehabbing his surgically repaired knee. If he can continue to earn Rodgers’ trust, that will go a long way towards ensuring he gets plenty of opportunities once the season gets underway.When he did get touches last year, Carter had some good games with 100 yards from scrimmage on 17 touches against the Ravens, 74 on 15 touches against Denver and 86 on 13 touches against Buffalo. He’ll hope to have more games like this in 2023.

 >>  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/break-michael-carter-bounce-back-135341794.html

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Another milfy issue.  A guy loses playing time to a better player but then is more than a little neglected when things start going south.  This is kind of strange because one of the first things carter said to hall is there are plenty of carry’s  to go around and they will get a good amount of work.  Obviously it’s up to carter to get his head back into things. It should be pointed out that both Ty Johnson and zonovan both fell off in the second half and zonovan had a good game to start his career.

 Hopefully Hackett can do a much better job of keeping players heads in the game.

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12 minutes ago, rangerous said:

Another milfy issue.  A guy loses playing time to a better player but then is more than a little neglected when things start going south.  This is kind of strange because one of the first things carter said to hall is there are plenty of carry’s  to go around and they will get a good amount of work.  Obviously it’s up to carter to get his head back into things. It should be pointed out that both Ty Johnson and zonovan both fell off in the second half and zonovan had a good game to start his career.

 Hopefully Hackett can do a much better job of keeping players heads in the game.

It appears that Carter's issues were injury-related - his own and the decimated OL.  Carter started off the year well and Hall was having a hard time earning carries early on.  Then the OL injuries mounted along with Hall's injury. Then Carter hurt his ankle.  When Knight started, he was very capable for the first two games. Then the wheels came off the Jets offense because of the O injuries,, the White injury, and QB play. Nobody was gaining yards on the ground in that offense. 

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On 6/28/2023 at 1:43 PM, jtomm said:
Bent - Wed, June 28, 2023 

NFL training camp starts at the end of July, which means players around the league are getting their last bits of offseason work in before the real work of trying to make the roster begins.For certain players, this season is what some may call “Make or Break,” meaning they need to put together a productive year or they could be looking for employment elsewhere at the end of the 2023-24 campaign.

We’ll highlight those players for the Jets, continuing today with running back Michael Carter.

2022 Stats

- 16 games (10 starts)

- 114 carries, 402 yards, three touchdowns (3.5 yards per carry)

- 41 receptions for 288 yards

Why Make or Break?

Carter was drafted in the fourth round by the Jets in 2021 and established himself as a fan favorite in his rookie season. He led the Jets with 639 rushing yards, was tied for the team lead with four rushing touchdowns and was fourth on the team with 36 receptions. He played a starring role in two of the team’s four wins as he rushed for 118 yards against Jacksonville and racked up 172 yards from scrimmage and a touchdown against the Bengals.In 2022, Carter’s fortunes changed. He started off the year splitting snaps with Breece Hall, but his playing time dwindled as Hall started to break out. When Hall suffered a season-ending injury in week seven, the Jets were expected to turn back to Carter, but they ended up giving opportunities to other players like James Robinson, Ty Johnson and Zonovan Knight ahead of him.No doubt frustrated with his role and lack of playing time, Carter really struggled down the stretch, gaining just 72 yards on 29 carries over the team's last eight games. However, the change in offensive coordinator and Aaron Rodgers arriving to play quarterback could give Carter exactly the kind of fresh start he needs. He remains one of the most popular players on the team among his teammates.

What will break it?

It was surprising to see Carter being so ineffective in 2022, especially as Hall had so much success in the same offense. Carter was one of the league leaders in broken tackle rate as a rookie but his numbers for forced missed tackles and yards after contact dropped off dramatically in 2022 so he needs to find a way to break out of that slump.Injures have been one of the things that has slowed him down. Despite only missing one game, Carter was dealing with a high ankle strain down the stretch, having also been troubled by an ankle issue at the end of his rookie year. He needs to prove he can be durable if he wants his workload to increase.Another factor was his apparent frustration with the offensive system and his lack of touches. Now that Nathaniel Hackett has taken over from Mike LaFleur as offensive coordinator, Carter will hope to get a clean slate but must show more patience if he has to wait for opportunities.One of the things Carter needed to improve in 2022 was his pass protection. However, he arguably regressed in that area. If he can’t prove himself to be a reliable pass protector, especially now that Rodgers is the player he’ll be tasked with protecting, then that will be another thing that keeps him off the field. Hopefully Rodgers’ experience will benefit Carter here because he’ll set the protection correctly and anticipate pressure better than Zach Wilson did last year.

What will make it?

Carter has talent, so if he can be healthy to start the year, he could produce well in an offense against which defenses will no longer be able to stack the box. If Hall is slow to hit full speed, then Carter will need to make the most of any playing time he gets in order to show that he can complement a healthy Hall rather than just being his backup.Indications are that Rodgers has been impressed with Carter as he’s been getting plenty of work during the offseason with Hall still rehabbing his surgically repaired knee. If he can continue to earn Rodgers’ trust, that will go a long way towards ensuring he gets plenty of opportunities once the season gets underway.When he did get touches last year, Carter had some good games with 100 yards from scrimmage on 17 touches against the Ravens, 74 on 15 touches against Denver and 86 on 13 touches against Buffalo. He’ll hope to have more games like this in 2023.

 >>  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/break-michael-carter-bounce-back-135341794.html

I hope so, he looked good as a rook, if last year did not happen i would have felt that him and knight could carry the load till hall gets healthy, but his no show last year, has me concerned. The one saving grace is I do not think he is a top 10 back so loacked boxes will shut him or anyone down. You have to be special to win that play when everyone knows you are running. So put me down as can we sign dalvin cook? haha..

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1 hour ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

It appears that Carter's issues were injury-related - his own and the decimated OL.  Carter started off the year well and Hall was having a hard time earning carries early on.  Then the OL injuries mounted along with Hall's injury. Then Carter hurt his ankle.  When Knight started, he was very capable for the first two games. Then the wheels came off the Jets offense because of the O injuries,, the White injury, and QB play. Nobody was gaining yards on the ground in that offense. 

Okay, that’s fair but players on teams driving for the playoffs aren’t supposed to have injuries.  I’m not talking about gushing chest wounds but the little nagging ones that seem all too often keep jets players out.  I think milfy really soured a lot of players on playing hard. Saleh takes blame too for being a bit too much of a players coach.  We’ll see this season when they will all be expected to give 100%.

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Like the other Michael Carter, the fans think more of the player than the GM and CS do.

Everyone thought MCII was a stud, then the team used a top pick on a CB (Sauce) and signed a free agent starter (Reed).

It’s not Mike LaFleur’s fault that Carter sucked last year lol. He’s just not that good. Which is why the Jets drafted Breece last year and Izzy this most recent draft. 

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IMO Carter is a marginal quality starting NFL RB.  He's not a star..

He's the kind of player who might be a decent limited-use, third-down-type back in a RB-by-committee environment, where his touches are limited, but strategic, and he doesn't have to get hit a ton (because he is fragile for a RB, frankly) or carry too much of the ground-game burden.

He can have value, if he can stay healthy, and not drop anything thrown his way, and if Hall is back to start and carry the real load, but guys like Carter (and Knight) simply cannot be relied upon to shoulder an offense.

He is, IMO, an example of a guy fans have inflated beyond his actual talent and skillset.  Same as Knight.

If Hall is healthy, I expect alot of Hall and the new draft guy, less of Carter, and no Knight at all.

 

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High ankle sprain - rushed back after two weeks to play…

behind a crappy offensive line and…

ran into boxes committed to stopping the run because passing game scared no one.

Carter isn’t a stud rb but has been downgraded too much by fans and content creators.  He’s a solid change of pace back, with good versatility to run in or outside, and pass catch.

As for being a bad teammate… only his teammates can say that.  

What we know about his character:

Was quiet when his best friend on the team wasn’t getting touches and demanded a trade. Was later sad/sensitive when his best friend was traded, and his 2022 performance was criticized.

 

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Carter is simply not a lead back and shouldn't be treated as such.  He's well suited to be a complementary / rotational back, which is the role he'll likely be in this year as long as people stay healthy.  He was overrated his rookie year for kind of being the best of a bad bunch on an abysmal offense (I mean, the other options were superstars like Tevin Coleman, Ty Johnson, La'Mical Perine, and Austin Walters).  He was greatly outshined to start last year, and then it all went further downhill from there.

As long as he can graciously accept the role of being one piece that will get a limited snap count and need to make the most of them, he has a chance to be a solid contributor.  If everything breaks right he could have a Powell-like career, which we'd all be very happy with it, but that's honestly the furthest he could hope to make it with the Jets.  If he struggles with that, there's little reason they wouldn't move on to other options they have at the position.

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1 hour ago, Saul Goodman said:

Like the other Michael Carter, the fans think more of the player than the GM and CS do.

Everyone thought MCII was a stud, then the team used a top pick on a CB (Sauce) and signed a free agent starter (Reed).

It’s not Mike LaFleur’s fault that Carter sucked last year lol. He’s just not that good. Which is why the Jets drafted Breece last year and Izzy this most recent draft. 

MC2 is actually a quality nickel back, which is really where they've kept him his whole stretch here.  Certainly nowhere near Sauce nor Reed, but still also one of the very least of the team's concerns.  In truth, he's actually JD's best late round pick so far, by a wide margin.

Bryce Hall, on the other hand, is a totally different story.  He's the one folks fell in love with in 2021 as a supposed true starter that very quickly got buried behind all of Sauce, Reed, MC2, and Echols last year.

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Drafting Breece Hall was not widely predicted by those around the Jets… but the Hall selection doesn’t mean Carter is a bad player.  

Carter is just not a game breaking top 5 back.  That’s ok!

A healthy Carter still has value and will be a meaningful contributor to the team.

Carter was overrated by many after his rookie year and now is underrated/ disrespected after his sophomore season

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Abanikanda >> Carter as a relief/COP back. B Hall is not a 2 down player, so really Carter is hoping he can stay on as depth or for his pass pro chops at this point. 

That said, he's still part of our top 3 and thus will be here this fall, but he'll be taking back seat.... Israel Abanikanda is an dynamic big-play-waiting-to-happen running back. Basically the perfect compliment to Breece.

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49 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said:

MC2 is actually a quality nickel back, which is really where they've kept him his whole stretch here.  Certainly nowhere near Sauce nor Reed, but still also one of the very least of the team's concerns.  In truth, he's actually JD's best late round pick so far, by a wide margin.

Bryce Hall, on the other hand, is a totally different story.  He's the one folks fell in love with in 2021 as a supposed true starter that very quickly got buried behind all of Sauce, Reed, MC2, and Echols last year.

MC2 is one of the best nickel backs in football.

You’re right, Sauce and Reed replaced Hall and Echols.

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27 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Abanikanda >> Carter as a relief/COP back. B Hall is not a 2 down player, so really Carter is hoping he can stay on as depth or for his pass pro chops at this point. 

That said, he's still part of our top 3 and thus will be here this fall, but he'll be taking back seat.... Israel Abanikanda is a dynamic big-play-waiting-to-happen running back. Basically the perfect compliment to Breece.

The knock on Izzy is that he can’t break tackles and is unproven as a pass catcher (with really small hands).  


Carter might be the better receiving back and Rodgers loves throwing to backs.  With Ty Johnson off the team, Carter will get 8 - 12 touches a game… with more than half of those being catches. 

 

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1 hour ago, jNYC1 said:

The knock on Izzy is that he can’t break tackles and is unproven as a pass catcher (with really small hands).  


Carter might be the better receiving back and Rodgers loves throwing to backs.  With Ty Johnson off the team, Carter will get 8 - 12 touches a game… with more than half of those being catches. 

 

well he's not a 3rd down back... like i said, a change of pace/relief back. I wou;dn't drafted him to be 15+ touch guy... but that's Breece's profile - who can also stay on the field on 3 and 8. 

Izzy wasn't a North/South gangbuster through the hole at PITT, but he does a nice arian foster impression following his blocks and slicing through the line - and once he's off to the races...  

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