Is OT Carter Warren a potential franchise LT?

[Bronx]

 

[32EBoozer]

 

Slow your roll Harrison! 

[k-met57]

his twitter timeline is so full of over the top fluff, its a little cringe for a jets fan. he must be 12.

[Bowles Movement]

Its always a good situation for the teams salary cap  when you find quality starters in the draft.                                                                            

When you find them in the later rounds, especially at the most important and expensive positions, its a grand slam home run.  

It looks like his injury dropped him down a round or two, so lets hope we found another diamond in the rough.   With all the salary we are deferring in this playoff push, getting cost effective play at some key positions like WR, RB, DB, DL and hopefully OL would really mitigate a lot of that.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Future HOF? Duane Brown?

[Barry McCockinner]

You can tell by the way he gracefully hops over the hurdle like only a future HOF LT could

 

[derp]

Think a bad player hurts an offensive line more than a good player helps, if that makes sense. He doesn’t need to be an All Pro - if he can be competent and AVT, maybe Tippmann can bring the sizzle that’s still a huge win. 

Not sure he even gets to that lower bar, but a solid LT still helps a ton. 

[Joe W. Namath]

Thank you Joe Douglas!  Thank you!!

[Lith]

[Alka]

44 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

Its always a good situation for the teams salary cap  when you find quality starters in the draft.                                                                            

When you find them in the later rounds, especially at the most important and expensive positions, its a grand slam home run.  

It looks like his injury dropped him down a round or two, so lets hope we found another diamond in the rough.   With all the salary we are deferring in this playoff push, getting cost effective play at some key positions like WR, RB, DB, DL and hopefully OL would really mitigate a lot of that.

From everything I read, Carter Warren was dominant in 2021, and had he entered the draft, was projected to be a 3rd round draft pick.  He surprised his team by going back to college in 2022, which prompted his teammates to make him a captain of the team.  

He has very high grades at protecting the quarterback in the passing game, so his ability in this category could be considered "elite".  He scored a 80.5 rating.  However, his run blocking scored a 60.5 rating.  It's not that he doesn't have the talent, it's just that this is an area that he will need to improve upon, if he is to become a quality starter in the NFL.  I imagine that this is the reason he would have been a 3rd round pick in 2022, and not a 1st or 2nd round pick.  

[Bowles Movement]

4 minutes ago, Alka said:

From everything I read, Carter Warren was dominant in 2021, and had he entered the draft, was projected to be a 3rd round draft pick.  He surprised his team by going back to college in 2022, which prompted his teammates to make him a captain of the team.  

He has very high grades at protecting the quarterback in the passing game, so his ability in this category could be considered "elite".  He scored a 80.5 rating.  However, his run blocking scored a 60.5 rating.  It's not that he doesn't have the talent, it's just that this is an area that he will need to improve upon, if he is to become a quality starter in the NFL.  I imagine that this is the reason he would have been a 3rd round pick in 2022, and not a 1st or 2nd round pick.  

Good supporting info thanks.

Id think that a year of strengthening and learning behind out vets will probably be an end positive.  

JD sure loves him some team captains

[32EBoozer]

1 hour ago, Bowles Movement said:

With all the salary we are deferring in this playoff push, getting cost effective play at some key positions like WR, RB, DB, DL and hopefully OL would really mitigate a lot of that.

The reason why Becton will be battling for a starting position. Jets hoping MB balls out because he is not in their future plans.  if he can’t win starting LT or RT position then JDwill get what he can for him at TD & be done with it. They let him walk or FT him next year

Once again we have a piecemeal OL at the OT position. ‘24 draft will be heavily OL weighted.

I’m also hoping that CJ takes a $5m pay cut or Nas or Sherwood overtake him and we save $17m to rollover to AR / QW contract. 

[More Cowbell]

1 hour ago, Bronx said:

 

I'd be happy of he becomes even a left or right guard for the next 3 or 4 years let alone the most important position on the OL. 

[More Cowbell]

5 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

The reason why Becton will be battling for a starting position. Jets hoping MB balls out because he is not in their future plans.  if he can’t win starting LT or RT position then JDwill get what he can for him at TD & be done with it.

Once again we have a piecemeal OL at the OT position. ‘24 draft will be heavily OL weighted.

I’m also hoping that CJ takes a $5m pay cut or Nas or Sherwood overtake him and we save $17m to rollover to AR / QW contract. 

I think it's funny at this point the way some people think JD is going to toss Becton aside like last week's trash. The Jets have an enormous  investment  in Becton and they want a return on the more than seeing someone like Warren develop into a starter. This isn't  saying we don't  want Warren to develop, I think it would be great if Warren shows he can start on the OL, but Becton is going to get every chance to play. All he has to do at this point is show he can stay on the field. Even if he doesn't  play at an elite level, he will likely get a new contract if he has an injury free season or at least does not have a season ending injury again. 

[32EBoozer]

8 minutes ago, More Cowbell said:

Even if he doesn't  play at an elite level, he will likely get a new contract if he has an injury free season or at least does not have a season ending injury again. 

Came into his 2nd year camp over 400 lbs and consistently used social media to complain about how fans viewed him & finally called out the coaches/organization for his injuries.

JD shipped off EM & JA for the same. You think JD is going to sign on for 3-4 more years of that? Once MB lands a big contract, who’s to say he doesn’t balloon to 400 again? Get what you can for him and develop more talent

[Barton]

Baby Steps by Dr Leo Marvin. 

[chirorob]

16 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said:

Came into his 2nd year camp over 400 lbs and consistently used social media to complain about how fans viewed him & finally called out the coaches/organization for his injuries.

JD shipped off EM & JA for the same. You think JD is going to sign on for 3-4 more years of that? Once MB lands a big contract, who’s to say he doesn’t balloon to 400 again? Get what you can for him and develop more talent

There is no way I give him a long term contract.

If he wins a tackle spot, stays healthy and balls out, I franchise him for a year, and then let him go.  I simply do not trust him to get a huge bonus, and not then just gain all the weight back.

[BigRy56]

With JD picking the players, even the last pick in the draft can be a Superbowl MVP. Douglas GMs like he put in the god mode cheat code

[rangerous]

There are always guys that slip under the radar during the draft and emerge as good players. I think so many times we lose sight of the fact that many of these guys are just kids and still have some growing up to do.

[jetstream23]

2 hours ago, k-met57 said:

his twitter timeline is so full of over the top fluff, its a little cringe for a jets fan. he must be 12.

There's only one true way to know how good he really is.... an online Xbox match vs. Mekhi Becton.

Winner becomes the starting Left Tackle.

[jetstream23]

1 hour ago, derp said:

Think a bad player hurts an offensive line more than a good player helps, if that makes sense. He doesn’t need to be an All Pro, if he can be competent and AVT, maybe Tippmann can bring the sizzle that’s still a huge win. 

Not sure he even gets to that lower bar, but a solid LT still helps a ton. 

Jason Fabini kind of came out of nowhere for the Jets.  He was good, but not really great.  Jets did well plugging him in at LT for something like 7 years.  4th rounder out of Cincinnati if I remember right.  You can definitely find a starting caliber OT, even for the left side, in the middle rounds.  A guy who probably got knocked down a round or two because of his injury at Pitt, Carter Warren is a good example of a player who could outplay his Draft spot if he does what the Jets seem to be planning to do, truly redshirt him and develop him for a year.

Warren is one of the guys I'd like to watch closely in preseason.  Preseason is now more limited than in the past, but I'd still expect to see him play a few quarters.  The Jets really only need two out of Becton, Max Mitchell, Warren to show they can be good and consistent in order to have some level of confidence in the OT positions going forward.

[LIJetsFan]

1 hour ago, Alka said:

From everything I read, Carter Warren was dominant in 2021, and had he entered the draft, was projected to be a 3rd round draft pick.  He surprised his team by going back to college in 2022, which prompted his teammates to make him a captain of the team.  

He has very high grades at protecting the quarterback in the passing game, so his ability in this category could be considered "elite".  He scored a 80.5 rating.  However, his run blocking scored a 60.5 rating.  It's not that he doesn't have the talent, it's just that this is an area that he will need to improve upon, if he is to become a quality starter in the NFL.  I imagine that this is the reason he would have been a 3rd round pick in 2022, and not a 1st or 2nd round pick.  

Brick wasn't all that good as a run blocker as I recall.....just saying  

[Greenseed4]

1 hour ago, Alka said:

He has very high grades at protecting the quarterback in the passing game, so his ability in this category could be considered "elite".  He scored a 80.5 rating.  However, his run blocking scored a 60.5 rating.  It's not that he doesn't have the talent, it's just that this is an area that he will need to improve upon, if he is to become a quality starter in the NFL.

Do they grade hurdle jumps? I imagine he’s elite. 

[EM31]

18 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said:

Brick wasn't all that good as a run blocker as I recall.....just saying  

So Brick for the floor and maybe Joe Thomas as the ceiling in that case?

[chirorob]

1 hour ago, jetstream23 said:

Jason Fabini kind of came out of nowhere for the Jets.  He was good, but not really great.  Jets did well plugging him in at LT for something like 7 years.  4th rounder out of Cincinnati if I remember right.  You can definitely find a starting caliber OT, even for the left side, in the middle rounds.  A guy who probably got knocked down a round or two because of his injury at Pitt, Carter Warren is a good example of a player who could outplay his Draft spot if he does what the Jets seem to be planning to do, truly redshirt him and develop him for a year.

Warren is one of the guys I'd like to watch closely in preseason.  Preseason is now more limited than in the past, but I'd still expect to see him play a few quarters.  The Jets really only need two out of Becton, Max Mitchell, Warren to show they can be good and consistent in order to have some level of confidence in the OT positions going forward.

Ryan Young was a 7th rounder, who started every game his 2nd and 3rd season before going to the Texans.  

Ironically he tore up his knee practicing special teams field goal blocking, and his career was cut short.

[Bronx]

The best tackles in this year’s class will be off the board by the time Denver’s selections roll around in the third round, but if they are looking for a developmental prospect on Day 3 of the draft—Pittsburgh’s Carter Warren is a name to remember. He met with the Broncos at the Combine and his Pro Day, so there should be little doubt he is on their radar.

Carter Warren — Offensive Tackle —Pittsburgh

Height: 6’5 1/2” Weight: 311 lbs.

Bench Press: N/A | Arm Length: 35 3/8” | Hands: 9 1/8”

40 Yard Dash: N/A | 3 Cone Drill: N/A | 20 Yard Shuttle: N/A

Warren was a four-star recruit coming out of Passaic High School in New Jersey and had no shortage of collegiate teams interested in him. After considering multiple offers, he committed to Pittsburgh, but it took a while for the high-profile recruit to hit his stride.

He redshirted his first year on campus in 2017 and didn’t play in any games in 2018. In 2019, he earned a starting job tasked with protecting Kenny Pickett’s blindside. He saw 865 total offensive snaps in thirteen games, but allowed 35 quarterback hurries and two sacks over the season.

Over the next two years, Warren would improve and halve his hurries allowed and improve his pass protection. He was well on his way to becoming a quality pro-caliber prospect and started 23 more games as a sophomore and junior and tallied nearly 1,700 snaps. Alas, his sixth-year senior 2022 season ended abruptly after suffering a torn meniscus early in the season.

 

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Scouting Report

Positives: Pro-ready physique with exceptional arm length and an elite wingspan. Experienced prospect with 39 starts and over 2,700 offensive snaps. Has played both left and right tackle, but projects best at the former. Displays good technique and active hands engaging defenders. Gains solid depth in his kick slide and displays good footwork. Demonstrates the ability to move the opposition of the ball and does fairly well sustaining blocks. Well-respected player who worked hard to improve and was voted as a team captain ain for the Panthers. 

Negatives: Torn meniscus held him out most of last season and has kept him sidelined for most of the pre-draft process. An average athlete in space who needs to do better keeping his pad level down when on the move. Can get off-balance and become susceptible to inside moves from defenders. Blitz diagnosis [especially on inside pressure] is suspect and leaves him vulnerable to attack. Average run blocker who should finish blocks better due to his size and ability.

 

Overall: Day 3 prospect.

[Rhg1084]

Hey nobody expected Max Mitchell to contribute like he did last year as a late round pick rookie. If JD is finding these tackles late in the draft that can actually get on the field and contribute then that’s something we’ve never seen before as Jets fans.

[Warfish]

Aren't ALL NY Jets possible future franchise/HOF players...according to Jets fans, lol.

I mean someone on this forum says that about just about everyone we've ever rostered.

[Larz]

[Jimmy 2 Times]

Work ethic and motivation.  

It's what separates the naturally gifted from the All-Pros.

[BCJet]

6 hours ago, LIJetsFan said:

Brick wasn't all that good as a run blocker as I recall.....just saying  

For a LT the pass blocking is infinitely more important then run blocking.  OTs are usually facing guys who they are lighter then they are so its really a question of just being athletic enough to get to where you need to be and wall someone off. Its not like a guard who needs to drive a 325lb DT out of the way.  

The best thing we can hope for out of Warren is a ton of preseason snaps and very few in the regular season.  Let him get acclimated to the pro game and hopefully be good enough to be part of the conversation in 2024.

[addage]

7 hours ago, jetstream23 said:

Jason Fabini kind of came out of nowhere for the Jets.  He was good, but not really great.  Jets did well plugging him in at LT for something like 7 years.  4th rounder out of Cincinnati if I remember right.  You can definitely find a starting caliber OT, even for the left side, in the middle rounds.  A guy who probably got knocked down a round or two because of his injury at Pitt, Carter Warren is a good example of a player who could outplay his Draft spot if he does what the Jets seem to be planning to do, truly redshirt him and develop him for a year.

Warren is one of the guys I'd like to watch closely in preseason.  Preseason is now more limited than in the past, but I'd still expect to see him play a few quarters.  The Jets really only need two out of Becton, Max Mitchell, Warren to show they can be good and consistent in order to have some level of confidence in the OT positions going forward.

My recollection of Fabini is that he was excellent as a RT who started as a rookie.  In a classic SOJ move, the Jets took a good right tackle and made him a below average LT.  Result: neither position was played well.

But your are right, both Mitchell and Warren have a chance to be Fabini like OL's.  Becton?  Who knows?

[jetspenguin]

Came into his 2nd year camp over 400 lbs and consistently used social media to complain about how fans viewed him & finally called out the coaches/organization for his injuries.
JD shipped off EM & JA for the same. You think JD is going to sign on for 3-4 more years of that? Once MB lands a big contract, who’s to say he doesn’t balloon to 400 again? Get what you can for him and develop more talent

We didn't need JA or EM

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[Alka]

9 hours ago, LIJetsFan said:

Brick wasn't all that good as a run blocker as I recall.....just saying  

I don't recall.  What I do recall is that Brick missed one play for his entire career at left tackle.  If Warren Carter can do that, then I will be very impressed.

[More Cowbell]

10 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

Came into his 2nd year camp over 400 lbs and consistently used social media to complain about how fans viewed him & finally called out the coaches/organization for his injuries.

JD shipped off EM & JA for the same. You think JD is going to sign on for 3-4 more years of that? Once MB lands a big contract, who’s to say he doesn’t balloon to 400 again? Get what you can for him and develop more talent

JD didn't draft EM and JA. That makes a difference. It would be admitting a huge fail. That is not going to happen easily