JetNation Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Written by Glenn NaughtonFormer Jets head coach Eric Mangini has chimed in on the swirling rumors regarding free agents Dalvin Cook and DeAndre Hopkins. According to Mangini, with such a small window having been opened up to win a Super Bowl, the Jets should come calling. Mangini, according to The 33rd team, said he believes the Jets “Should go all in and sign a guy like DeAndre Hopkins or Dalvin Cook. At least give yourself the best opportunity to go try to win a Super Bowl”. In the case of Hopkins it appears to be a moot point as the Jets have shown no interest in the dynamic receiver. In regards to Cook however, the Jets are viewed by some as the odds on favorite to bring the running back on board. Maneuvering Aaron Rodgers' 2024 cap hit could be a burden for the #Jets, but Eric Mangini thinks the team should go all in on 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙨 season NYJ fans, would you want (another) big-name addition? pic.twitter.com/ZBB2X1VEoW — The 33rd Team (@The33rdTeamFB) July 7, 2023 Bookies.com lists the Jets as the favorite to sign cook at 22% with the Dolphins close behind at 21%. Cook has made it clear that the Dolphins are his first choice, saying Miami would be the “perfect fit”, but if the money isn’t right, it’s fair to assume he’ll look elsewhere. The post Former Jets Head Coach Eric Mangini Says Team Should Pursue big Name Free Agents appeared first on JetNation.com - New York Jets Blog & Forum.Click here to read the full story... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Cool so next year Rodgers cap number will be $100,000,000. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 MANGENIUS !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 does anyone really gaf what this guy thinks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Hopkins and or cook being jets has the same chance as mangini being an nfl coach again. Less then 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, neckdemon said: does anyone really gaf what this guy thinks? He fills an important roll like PFF. You quote them on JN when they say what you already agreed with. Ignore everything else they say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Is Le'veon Bell available? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, neckdemon said: does anyone really gaf what this guy thinks? Even though I don’t I sorta hope someplace Somebody does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Remember that time he was on the sopranos……good times 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, neckdemon said: does anyone really gaf what this guy thinks? Can you name someone who's built more championship-winning rosters? I think not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I think he should call BB and ask for a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 He's right. So far JD has added literally nothing to the offense since acquiring Rodgers. That's not good. And if it doesnt change, Jets are going nowhere with their current roster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 I do agree with him. The second we traded for Rodgers we were all in for 2 years. The rest of our off-season really hasn’t been an all in approach. I think we need another guy or 2 on offense along with bringing back Kwon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Barton said: He's right. So far JD has added literally nothing to the offense since acquiring Rodgers. That's not good. And if it doesnt change, Jets are going nowhere with their current roster. It’s sucks. Playing 4 vs 11 on offense is going to be brutal. I think you mean big name expensive players. Welcome to the world of the superstar QB and his contract. Here’s a position rundown on offense acquired this offseason. QB Rodgers QB Boyle ( he sucks I’ll give you that lol) WR Lazard WR Hardman RB Izzy OT Turner OT Warren C Tippmann C Schweitzer C Colon TE Kuntz-PS bound OBJ is averaging 1 catch a game over the past four seasons accounting for games missed due to injury Cook is high on the list of unemployed RBs that have a high rate of drops/fumbles/ allowed pressures eww DHop wants OBJ money and teams feel when things don’t go his way he becomes a distraction. otherwise, solid post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Snell Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Maybe Mangini should sign big name FA's for the team he's coaching. Oh wait !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, Larz said: It’s sucks. Playing 4 vs 11 on offense is going to be brutal. I think you mean big name expensive players. Welcome to the world of the superstar QB and his contract. Here’s a position rundown on offense acquired this offseason. QB Rodgers QB Boyle ( he sucks I’ll give you that lol) WR Lazard WR Hardman RB Izzy OT Turner OT Warren C Tippmann C Schweitzer C Colon TE Kuntz-PS bound OBJ is averaging 1 catch a game over the past four seasons accounting for games missed due to injury Cook is high on the list of unemployed RBs that have a high rate of drops/fumbles/ allowed pressures eww DHop wants OBJ money and teams feel when things don’t go his way he becomes a distraction. otherwise, solid post. You do realize you just listed a bunch of JAG players and a rookie center, right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, Barton said: You do realize you just listed a bunch of JAG players and a rookie center, right? He “literally” listed the offensive players that have been added to the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: He “literally” listed the offensive players that have been added to the roster. .................. And its a bunch of JAGs and a rookie center. Hi. Like I said, nothing added to the offense before/after Rodgers was acquired. This team needs more PLAYMAKERS on offense and possibly another top flight Olineman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Snell said: Maybe Mangini should sign big name FA's for the team he's coaching. Oh wait !!!!!!!!!!! His 08 FA class was very good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Snell Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: His 08 FA class was very good. My point is that he isn't nor has he been coaching anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Barton said: You do realize you just listed a bunch of JAG players and a rookie center, right? Fix it then. Show us your 54 man roster but no magic GM nonsense like you would get tough with the packers and get Rodgers for a 4th and OBJ for $9 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, Barton said: .................. And its a bunch of JAGs and a rookie center. Hi. Like I said, nothing added to the offense before/after Rodgers was acquired. This team needs more PLAYMAKERS on offense and possibly another top flight Olineman. Wilson Hall Hardman Lazard Davis Izzy you’re hung up on added. Makes no sense. Lazard in the big slot with Wilson, Davis and Hall will eat. Wilson , Davis, Lazard, Hardman and Cobb is a nice group. You have X, Z, slot covered. Hall Carter and Izzy are question marks but I’m not worried about them, you can bring in fresh legs at anytime in the backfield Try to imagine a QB that can play chess with the defense, make the correct line calls, manipulate the safeties, buy time in the pocket, pick the right guy and deliver the ball on time and accurately. He makes everyone around him better. Your argument is about name players. Rodgers is a name, right ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 This is how Tannenbaum built teams, basically because he had no confidence in his ability to draft. Over one four year period, he failed to draft seven players once, including two drafts of four players and one of three. Those teams proved to be top heavy, with no depth, and struggled to get by with any sort of injury adversity. Big name players generally means overpriced players. These guys are all on the market right now for the same reason: they think they’re worth more than they actually are. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Barton said: .................. And its a bunch of JAGs and a rookie center. Hi. Like I said, nothing added to the offense before/after Rodgers was acquired. This team needs more PLAYMAKERS on offense and possibly another top flight Olineman. Yeah, my post was really a commentary on your use of the word, “literally”. You can judge the quality of players he’s added all you want but the truth is JD added 2 QBs, 3 WRs, 5 OL, a RB, and a TE. To say he’s “literally” added nothing to the offense is just wrong. He has literally added pieces to every position group this off-season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Larz said: It’s sucks. Playing 4 vs 11 on offense is going to be brutal. I think you mean big name expensive players. Welcome to the world of the superstar QB and his contract. Here’s a position rundown on offense acquired this offseason. QB Rodgers QB Boyle ( he sucks I’ll give you that lol) WR Lazard WR Hardman RB Izzy OT Turner OT Warren C Tippmann C Schweitzer C Colon TE Kuntz-PS bound OBJ is averaging 1 catch a game over the past four seasons accounting for games missed due to injury Cook is high on the list of unemployed RBs that have a high rate of drops/fumbles/ allowed pressures eww DHop wants OBJ money and teams feel when things don’t go his way he becomes a distraction. otherwise, solid post. Besides Rodgers, Lazard and Hardman though… everyone else is a backup. And even then Hardman will be battling for touches with Lazard and Davis. And he has injury issues as well. So really we’ve brought in Rodgers and Lazard that will be regulars for us. Great moves. Don’t get me wrong. But for me that’s still just “kind of” going all in in this likely 2 year window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Just now, Bobby816 said: Besides Rodgers, Lazard and Hardman though… everyone else is a backup. And even then Hardman will be battling for touches with Lazard and Davis. And he has injury issues as well. So really we’ve brought in Rodgers and Lazard that will be regulars for us. Great moves. Don’t get me wrong. But for me that’s still just “kind of” going all in in this likely 2 year window. This all in thing needs to die lol. Yeah but Wilson and Hall are here already and they actually count. the best offenses recently have an almost unstoppable combination like Mahomes/ kelce. Rodgers /Wilson could be that. Wilson’s release is insane he wins quickly almost every time. I don’t know why people are making an argument ignoring Rodgers Wilson and Hall. Oh and the salary cap. Oh and free agents have the ability to say no thanks. This isn’t madden. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Agree with mangenius. ARod will be here for 1 maybe 2 years. I’d like to give him as many playmakers as possible to make a deep run. Why not sign Hopkins or cook? Hopkins is a lot better than Lazard. Breece might not be a full go to start the season. even if it’s just a 1 year flyer I don’t see the downside. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Besides Rodgers, Lazard and Hardman though… everyone else is a backup. And even then Hardman will be battling for touches with Lazard and Davis. And he has injury issues as well. So really we’ve brought in Rodgers and Lazard that will be regulars for us. Great moves. Don’t get me wrong. But for me that’s still just “kind of” going all in in this likely 2 year window. I don’t think the Jets will go “all in” the way you want them to, I think they want this to be sustainable. Adding Rodgers is certainly a dramatic move, but the Jets clearly needed a massive upgrade at QB and they went out and got the best one. I don’t believe they want to go the Rams route other than the veteran QB add. After next season, they’ll be back with a full slate of draft picks and a salary cap situation somewhat under control. Pricey names don’t make the difference if their production is no longer where it used to be, they’re just costly. Savvy wire pickups, maybe a low-grade trade or two for particular players you’re interested in before they’re cut. You’re not the only person thinking this way, but I just don’t think JD has any plans to significantly alter his way of doing business; which has generally been pretty frugal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 40 minutes ago, slats said: This is how Tannenbaum built teams, basically because he had no confidence in his ability to draft. Over one four year period, he failed to draft seven players once, including two drafts of four players and one of three. Those teams proved to be top heavy, with no depth, and struggled to get by with any sort of injury adversity. Big name players generally means overpriced players. These guys are all on the market right now for the same reason: they think they’re worth more than they actually are. I remember there was one draft that was supposed to be deep, where we had very few picks and the Pats were loaded up with extra picks. Though tbf, the Pats were loaded with extra picks almost every year back then. I just checked and possibly it was 2010. https://www.baltimoresun.com/bs-mtblog-2010-04-why_is_the_2010_nfl_draft_considered_the_deepest_draft_in_ye-story.html Why is the 2010 NFL Draft considered the deepest draft in years? By Kevin Van Valkenburg Baltimore Sun • Apr 13, 2010 at 10:53 am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 If you look at Rodgers with Hack he throws to his favorite WR, and then RB and TE for the most part. Ruckert would be icing on the cake, not going to put him in the equation yet, but Uzomah or Ruckert is going to get a lot of targets If you need to keep Rodgers, Wilson and Hall out of your argument about the offense, what are you doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 LaZaRD iSn’T a plAYmaKeR I hate the NFL policy on this 😂. Trust me it’s really not Rick astley 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Greenseed4 said: Yeah, my post was really a commentary on your use of the word, “literally”. You can judge the quality of players he’s added all you want but the truth is JD added 2 QBs, 3 WRs, 5 OL, a RB, and a TE. To say he’s “literally” added nothing to the offense is just wrong. He has literally added pieces to every position group this off-season. Awesome. Thank you, my english teacher. Can we focus on the issue? JD hasnt added any notable playmakers to the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 You have to respect Mangini’s old school mentality. He built the jets from scratch as the GM. he doesn’t have a job now because youngsters in the nfl are too soft and wussified by wokeismDefine wokeismSent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 42 minutes ago, Kenny Oh Brien said: You have to respect Mangini’s old school mentality. He built the jets from scratch as the GM. he doesn’t have a job now because youngsters in the nfl are too soft and wussified by wokeism You’re not gonna last 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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