ChrebetOverKeyshawn Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Do you view them as better, worse or an equal team to the Jets? If we roll with the pre conceived notion that the Pats are the 4th most talented team in the East and the Bills are the established ones that must be dethroned, that leaves Miami. I’ve noticed more so than any other fanbase this offseason they’ve been chirping at the Jets relentlessly on social media and visiting their boards there’s an overwhelming sense of confidence that they’re EASILY better than NYJ. They have talent, that’s undeniable. Fangio should elevate their defense. But there has to be a huge question mark surrounding Tuas availability? The pats of the last 20 years have made some forget that this is undeniably the Jets biggest historical rival, and we could very well see this fully revived in 2023. So what’s your opinion of how we stack up to them roster for roster? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Waddle and Tyreek are better than Garrett and Corey/Lazard (but not by much). That's about it. I'll take our QB, Dline, Secondary, and RB over there's, even if they get Cook. 2nd half of the season are when teams get hot and make a run, and Breece will be 99.9% by then. Edge: Jets 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20andOut Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Miami getting alot of hype this offseason ( no where near Jet level). I think Tua is overrated when healthy and no way he plays 17 games. As much as i like Mike White we may see Q taking some shots at what little rib cage he has left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I believe the Dolphins and the Jets will fight it out for the division. The Bills have gotten old. 4 of their top 10 players are over 30; 3 including Diggs are 29. Jets Biggest ? Rodgers age, Breece’s health Upside: Young core who should get better Dolphins Biggest ? Tua’s health, Howard/Ramsey’s age Upside: A few young studs (guard, edge) Edge: Jets and the logic is pretty simple. 1. Tua’s health is a bigger impact risk than Breece’s 2. I’ll bet on a 39 year old Rodgers still playing well at QB over 2 Miami cornerbacks who have shown CLEAR signs of decline at a position based highly on athleticism 3. We have a younger, more dominant core with a potential 2nd wave incoming (JJ, Huff, Clemons, Ruckert) 4. I didn’t forget about the OLs. I have them at even with the Dolphins hit or miss and the Jets with better depth but currently more question marks 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted July 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2023 The have a great D coordinator but it wont matter cause the qb's head will bounce off the turf by week 3 and he will be out for the year. The pats are the team to worry about. With Bill Obrien running the offense, they are going to be a dangerous team. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Does Tua stay healthy? A healthy Tua, those WR, the running back out if A&M. That team can score on anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 We have the better QB, they have the better receivers. However, I put our D over them sooo EDGE: Jets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 The jets need to worry about the jets. This is the first time in a long time where they won’t be able to sneak up on people. They’re going to have play the full 60 minutes and make the plays that count. Saleh and his staff are going to have their work cut out for them. Lucky milfy isn’t there to screw things up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Ummm….the Dolphins have Mike White. That’s all that I’m saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 i dont believe in Tua even a little bit.....its a house of cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted July 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2023 The under-the-radar problem (that might be the biggest) is them acquiring Vic Fangio to coach an already talented defense, that made a few very good additions in the off-season. They’re going to give teams fits, Tua or not. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted July 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2023 I'm scared for Tua. Like, really really scared for him and I'm actually shocked he didnt retire. I have a bad feeling we're going to see something awful happen on the playing field and it's scary. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killa7 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 They couldn't beat the Jets with Marino. they aren't beating them with Tua. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mogglez said: The under-the-radar problem (that might be the biggest) is them acquiring Vic Fangio to coach an already talented defense that made a few very good additions. They’re going to give teams fits, Tua or not. Not just fangio, I think mcdaniel is vastly better than hackett. I'll say one thing, if the pats are not dead last in the afc east this year by a lot Bellichick truly is a total genius. And just our luck, when the pats have finally fallen off the cliff both Miami and Buffalo decide to get good. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 They got speed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, The Crusher said: They got speed! They're a freaking track meet. lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: The have a great D coordinator but it wont matter cause the qb's head will bounce off the turf by week 3 and he will be out for the year. The pats are the team to worry about. With Bill Obrien running the offense, they are going to be a dangerous team. Mac Jones is pure sh*t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said: Ummm….the Dolphins have Mike White. That’s all that I’m saying. What are you saying? You don’t think he can step in and play well for a game or two before he gets broken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Mogglez said: The under-the-radar problem (that might be the biggest) is them acquiring Vic Fangio to coach an already talented defense, that made a few very good additions in the off-season. They’re going to give teams fits, Tua or not. Good thought. I think that’s certainly the case on paper. The problem I see with the Dolphins is the 2 aging CBs and Bradley Chubb, who is quite possibly the most inconsistent Edge in the league. Both CBs are gamblers and Howard has been more bust than boom the past 2 years. Ramsey joined him last year in letting a number of touchdowns and big plays. The slope is slippery and Rodgers is a savvy vet who might make them pay head to head. Now to Chubb. Started his career with 12 sacks, then 1 in an injury shortened year (tracking to 4 sacks), then 7.5, then 0 in 7 games (another injury year), then 8. I do like Wilkins and Phillips a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Jets have answers for everything... Breece knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Roughly equal. Both the Dolphins and Jets have a shot at the division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 49 minutes ago, Gibby said: What are you saying? You don’t think he can step in and play well for a game or two before he gets broken? I think he can play great. Durability is the issue and even though the sample size isn’t enough, it’s pointing towards made of glass/doesn’t avoid hits and reckless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Miami is just as loaded as we are. That being said, Rodgers is light years better than Tua. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Both are behind Buffalo but the Jets have the edge over the Dolphins simply because of Rodgers. Injuries aside, Tua just hasn't done nearly enough for me to view the Dolphins as a favorite in a matchup against the Jets with Rodgers. For me, with how close these teams are matched up otherwise, it will come down to QB play. This is brought up ad nauseum but the only other x-factor will be the o-line. Every team in this division has a good o-line except the Jets. If guys like Tomlinson and Becton and even Tippman can elevate their play, then Jets will match up really well against all the AFCE teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 They couldn't beat the Jets with Marino. they aren't beating them with Tua.Hahahaha .. when I read this all I could picture was it coming out of Paulie Gaultieri's mouth.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 I think if there is a gap .. it's pretty damn small. Miami had a better head coach. Blazing speed on O.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 The conference is ridiculous and the division is really tough. Miami is very talented. I was really impressed with Mostert when we went to the game last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dunnie said: I think if there is a gap .. it's pretty damn small. Miami had a better head coach. Blazing speed on O. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Yes, but that OL is going to get their concussion-prone QB murdered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Killa7 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Mac Jones is pure sh*tBut what about his pace? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 8 hours ago, neckdemon said: Mac Jones is pure sh*t Too harsh. Mac is boring, not sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 The Who? Dolphins? Fuq off Tyreek. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Dolphins are a dangerous team. They can score in bunches and even if Tua goes down, Mike White can competently manage that offense. They'll be a tough out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Too harsh. Mac is boring, not sh*t. I suspect rookie Mac is more likely the "real" one. -- a competent, plus game manager. Guy got dealt a turd sandwich last year. Still don't know what Belichick was thinking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 I view the Bills/Fins/NYJ on the same level. It’s going to come down to injuries how the order falls. Each team can win the division. The Pats are last but they wont suck. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Legend Killa7 said: But what about his pace? He does have incredible pace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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