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List below from ESPN’s annual survey of Execs, Players, Scouts and Coaches.

Tua was in the Honorable Mention category with Derek Carr.

Mac Jones did not get a single top 10 vote.

Aaron Rodgers dropped from #1 to #4.

Listen - these lists absolutely have some bias and you’ll find some reputations keeping players in the top 10 for too long.

But this is not a fan popularity contest.  And it’s one thing to hang on to a #9 ranking as in the case of Dak Prescott, but it’s entirely different to still be viewed as a top 4 NFL QB ABOVE guys like Herbert & Hurts.

People who make a living in this sport and are much closer to NFL whispers are telling us there were real reasons Rodgers had a subpar year in 2022.  They are also telling us there were real reasons Tua had the stats he did (Hill, Waddle).


The top 10 was pretty standard. Kansas City's Patrick Mahomes topped the list, followed by Cincinnati's Joe Burrow at No. 2, Buffalo's Josh Allen at No. 3, and Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers at No. 4. Los Angeles' Justin Herbert (No. 5), Philadelphia's Jalen Hurts (No. 6), Baltimore's Lamar Jackson (No. 7), Jacksonville's Trevor Lawrence (No. 8), Dallas' Dak Prescott (No. 9), and Matthew Stafford of the L.A. Rams (No. 10) round out the top 10.

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but....but.... i read that rodgers was around the 12th best qb in the league.   cant wait for this guy to dunk on the league

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2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

As I said before this year, there is going to be no in between it will either be a spectacular success that validates all of Douglas's moves especially the QB move or it will be a totally spectacular russell Wilson like failure.

I dunno there are lots of possible outcomes in between, especially if Rodgers misses some time.

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I honestly don't see Josh Allen as a better quarterback than an old Aaron Rodgers. The difference in accuracy, ability to find receivers out of the pocket, and field intelligence is substantial. Rodgers is a HOF level QB for a reason. Allen has running ability, which mitigates some of his quarterback deficits, but that's about it. Really overrated, IMHO.

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23 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

If Rodgers misses time due to injury that is going to be a big fail, like it or not this regime has gone all in.

Again, it’s not binary between 17 healthy games and he goes on IR for the season. Regardless of what you think about “all in,” this division is a meat grinder and playoffs could come down to 1 game and almost certainly will come down to 2. That’s true of the Bills and Dolphins, also, by the way. Jets have got to bring in a steady hand vet QB who can manage the game and complete screen passes to keep the ship afloat if Rodgers misses a handful of games.

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11 minutes ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

I honestly don't see Josh Allen as a better quarterback than an old Aaron Rodgers. The difference in accuracy, ability to find receivers out of the pocket, and field intelligence is substantial. Rodgers is a HOF level QB for a reason. Allen has running ability, which mitigates some of his quarterback deficits, but that's about it. Really overrated, IMHO.

Allen is an elite QB in his prime. He’s legit. 2nd in the league last year QBR behind only Mahomes. Let’s not kid ourselves, he has the goods. Can’t wait to see Jets v Bills this year with both teams having a legit QB. When is the last time that happened, if ever? Closest was probably during the Kenny O/Jimmy Kelly days.

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1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

As I said before this year, there is going to be no in between it will either be a spectacular success that validates all of Douglas's moves especially the QB move or it will be a totally spectacular russell Wilson like failure.

I'll take those odds with Rodgers.  BTW, in no season did he ever play like Russell Wilson did last year.  But there's always the injury thing on the Jets and it goes way way back.   Hopeully he won't try to tackle anyone in a preseason turnover like Joe Namath did.  

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1 hour ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

I honestly don't see Josh Allen as a better quarterback than an old Aaron Rodgers. The difference in accuracy, ability to find receivers out of the pocket, and field intelligence is substantial. Rodgers is a HOF level QB for a reason. Allen has running ability, which mitigates some of his quarterback deficits, but that's about it. Really overrated, IMHO.

Josh Allen was never supposed to be like Aaron Rodgers.  He was supposed to be Cam Newton.  Look at the Front Office that picked him.  Cam Newton had a short-window.  So shall Josh Allen.  

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1 hour ago, jgb said:

Again, it’s not binary between 17 healthy games and he goes on IR for the season. Regardless of what you think about “all in,” this division is a meat grinder and playoffs could come down to 1 game and almost certainly will come down to 2. That’s true of the Bills and Dolphins, also, by the way. Jets have got to bring in a steady hand vet QB who can manage the game and complete screen passes to keep the ship afloat if Rodgers misses a handful of games.

If Rodgers misses a handful of games the entire narrative will be that s what you get for having 40 year old QB, or that's what you get or not fixing the oline.  There is not going to be any 'oh well the jets almost made the playoffs with 10 wins good on them.

The jets are not going to do anything at QB they have Wilson who won 5 games last year and Boyle, if wilson stinks too bad it will be boyle.

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45 minutes ago, Dcat said:

I'll take those odds with Rodgers.  BTW, in no season did he ever play like Russell Wilson did last year.  But there's always the injury thing on the Jets and it goes way way back.   Hopeully he won't try to tackle anyone in a preseason turnover like Joe Namath did.  

Rodgers will not have a wilson like fall off that is for sure.  BUT Wilson displayed some signs the year before he went to Denver and people ignored those.  There is the possibility that the year Rodgers had last year is the same thing.  Unlikely but not out of the realm.

With what it took to get Rodgers it is 100% playoffs or bust for the Jets.

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1 hour ago, jgb said:

Allen is an elite QB in his prime. He’s legit. 2nd in the league last year QBR behind only Mahomes. Let’s not kid ourselves, he has the goods. Can’t wait to see Jets v Bills this year with both teams having a legit QB. When is the last time that happened, if ever? Closest was probably during the Kenny O/Jimmy Kelly days.

Not arguing whether he's legit or even elite, although his completion percentages and TD to Interception ratios are nowhere near Rodgers'. But in the end, we'll see how they stack up. Rodgers just seems to me to be a more complete QB and a smarter one than Allen. If the Jets can give him some protection, I think he's show why he's a HOFer. Fun times.

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5 hours ago, Long Island Leprechaun said:

Not arguing whether he's legit or even elite, although his completion percentages and TD to Interception ratios are nowhere near Rodgers'. But in the end, we'll see how they stack up. Rodgers just seems to me to be a more complete QB and a smarter one than Allen. If the Jets can give him some protection, I think he's show why he's a HOFer. Fun times.

I mean they’re different players at different points of their careers. I’d definitely rather have Allen for the next 2 years than Rodgers and I think most would. But yes, even at 39/40 Rodgers is the most skilled QB the Jets have ever had. Those Bills games will be must-see TV.

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10 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Rodgers will not have a wilson like fall off that is for sure.  BUT Wilson displayed some signs the year before he went to Denver and people ignored those.  There is the possibility that the year Rodgers had last year is the same thing.  Unlikely but not out of the realm.

With what it took to get Rodgers it is 100% playoffs or bust for the Jets.

The Jets are doing it the right way, the Broncos didn’t, and Hackett was in both places. In Denver, he was hired as the “offensive genius,” and tried to install Wilson into his genius offense. That was a colossal failure. I expect a major leap from Wilson under Payton this year. But the Jets brought in Hackett specifically because he and Rodgers work so well together. No square pegs in round holes here, certainly not with the QB. 

Rodgers seems legitimately energized coming to the Jets, after not appearing to be engaged at all last year with the Packers. He definitely seems like he has something of a chip on his shoulder. Like he still has something to prove. 
 
For the Jets part, they’re not going to become a pass happy team like Brady with 700+ attempts in Tampa. They’ll continue to run a balanced, ball control attack on offense, and great defense. They’ll just be doing it with a massive upgrade at QB. Rodgers hasn’t missed a start in five years, and that’s what they’re looking for here. Like just about every contending team, they’ll go as far as their FQB takes them. 

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