What teams are “all in” for a Super Bowl this year?

[slats]

And what moves did they make that demonstrate their commitment to getting it done this season? 
 
I’m reading on the board more than a couple people lamenting that the Jets haven’t done quite enough to be “all in,” so I’m kinda curious as to which teams are. Seems like if a team isn’t emulating the ‘21 Rams (worst post Super Bowl crash ever, btw), they’re not really trying. 
 
I’m not gonna recap the Jets entire offseason, but they did execute a rather expensive trade for the best QB available. There are fans who quibble about the cost and point to options like Carr or Jimmy G, but would the Jets be in the championship conversation with either of those QBs? I’d say that would be a firm no. 
 
To make sure that their investment in Rodgers goes as smoothly as possible, Saleh fired his bestie and hired Rodgers’ bestie to be the OC. They brought in Rodgers’ #1 WR last year for four years, $44M. They added his old reliable Cobb who figures to see the field in some four WR sets (as well as depth in the slot). They also signed a backup QB and starting caliber OT from the same system to help get it up and running as quickly as possible. Not to mention adding Mahomes’ #2 WR the last few years and drafting a potential upgrade at center and a speedy RB to help offset their recovering speedy RB. 
 
What I’m hearing is that that’s not enough. Who did more this year? 

[nj meadowlands]

I don't know who's put their ballsack on the table more than the Jets have, but these are the other teams that 100% have a Super Bowl or Bust mentality:

Bills
Bengals
Chiefs
Eagles
Cowboys
49ers
Dolphins
Ravens

 

These teams can't be discounted but I wouldn't consider them as thirsty:

Jaguars
Lions
Browns
Giants

 

[Larz]

How do we know ? We think bringing in a HOF QB counts. You need maximum old WRs with baggage obviously.  
 

has to be wherever OBJ, dhop and Cook go.  Duh. 

[slats]

3 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said:

I don't know who's put their ballsack on the table more than the Jets have, but these are the other teams that 100% have a Super Bowl or Bust mentality:

Bills
Bengals
Chiefs
Eagles
Cowboys
49ers
Dolphins
Ravens

 

These teams can't be discounted but I wouldn't consider them as thirsty:

Jaguars
Lions
Browns
Giants

 

But what “all in” moves are those teams making? I mean the top five are pretty obvious given last years’ playoffs, but what moves have they made? The 49ers barely have a QB, for instance. 

[nj meadowlands]

4 minutes ago, slats said:

But what “all in” moves are those teams making? I mean the top five are pretty obvious given last years’ playoffs, but what moves have they made? The 49ers barely have a QB, for instance. 

Yeah, I see your meaning, but these teams have by and large already gotten themselves in a position to be considered all-in, either from making big splashes in past offseasons or from years of careful planning.  I do agree with the premise that the Jets had the thirstiest offseason.  The other teams on my list also know how to win a LOT more than these Jets, with the exception of Aaron Rodgers, do.

[Biggs]

11 minutes ago, slats said:

But what “all in” moves are those teams making? I mean the top five are pretty obvious given last years’ playoffs, but what moves have they made? The 49ers barely have a QB, for instance. 

Purdy is going to be the starter.   He was fantastic last year.  All accounts are he's on schedule to start the season.  

[jgb]

The “not all in” sect is purveying “no true Scotsman” thinking to the board.

[slats]

11 minutes ago, nj meadowlands said:

Yeah, I see your meaning, but these teams have by and large already gotten themselves in a position to be considered all-in, either from making big splashes in past offseasons or from years of careful planning.  I do agree with the premise that the Jets had the thirstiest offseason.  The other teams on my list also know how to win a LOT more than these Jets, with the exception of Aaron Rodgers, do.

Some of those teams have more pressure on them than the Jets, imho. Teams like Buffalo, who have their DC sitting out this year after losing their OC last year. What moves have they made to get over the hump? Did they have any significant FA signing? Or America’s Team, who hasn’t won two playoff games since 1996, where is their sense of urgency? 
 
What are these “all in” moves, and who’s making them? 

[Jetsfan80]

40 minutes ago, Larz said:

How do we know ? We think bringing in a HOF QB counts. 

The unnamed poster we're talking about thinks the Jets lost that trade even if Rodgers wins a SB here.

No one who thinks that can be reasoned with.  Essentially he's saying a couple high draft picks is too high of a price for a Lombardi.  That's madness.  Especially for a supposed Jets fan to say.  

[slats]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The unnamed poster we're talking about thinks the Jets lost that trade even if Rodgers wins a SB here.

No one who thinks that can be reasoned with.  

He’s not the only one saying the Jets haven’t done enough, though, with this “all in,” phrase getting thrown about. 

[PFSIKH]

1 hour ago, slats said:

And what moves did they make that demonstrate their commitment to getting it done this season? 
 
I’m reading on the board more than a couple people lamenting that the Jets haven’t done quite enough to be “all in,” so I’m kinda curious as to which teams are. Seems like if a team isn’t emulating the ‘21 Rams (worst post Super Bowl crash ever, btw), they’re not really trying. 
 
I’m not gonna recap the Jets entire offseason, but they did execute a rather expensive trade for the best QB available. There are fans who quibble about the cost and point to options like Carr or Jimmy G, but would the Jets be in the championship conversation with either of those QBs? I’d say that would be a firm no. 
 
To make sure that their investment in Rodgers goes as smoothly as possible, Saleh fired his bestie and hired Rodgers’ bestie to be the OC. They brought in Rodgers’ #1 WR last year for four years, $44M. They added his old reliable Cobb who figures to see the field in some four WR sets (as well as depth in the slot). They also signed a backup QB and starting caliber OT from the same system to help get it up and running as quickly as possible. Not to mention adding Mahomes’ #2 WR the last few years and drafting a potential upgrade at center and a speedy RB to help offset their recovering speedy RB. 
 
What I’m hearing is that that’s not enough. Who did more this year? 

All 32 teams are all in. 

The Jets, it is more probable than not, have quantifiably done the most.  Whether it has closed the gap is another matter.

 

[Warfish]

IMO most good teams don't have to worry about this "all in" idea.

They're simply "in".  Annually.  Without selling the future or farm.

Bad teams have to do "all in", taking bigger risks and selling long term for short term, in order to turn it around. 

Like us.

[slats]

1 minute ago, Warfish said:

IMO most good teams don't have to worry about this "all in" idea.

They're simply "in".  Annually.  Without selling the future or farm.

Bad teams have to do "all in", taking bigger risks and selling long term for short term, in order to turn it around. 

Like us.

Like us as in that that’s what the Jets have done? Or that they need to do more? 
 
I don’t necessarily agree about selling out (too much more, that is) long term for short term. They’ve already probably given up a first rounder next year and Rodgers will probably be on the payroll until 2026.

Are there any other teams “like us” that you see as taking those bigger risks, etc.? 

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

3 hours ago, slats said:

Some of those teams have more pressure on them than the Jets, imho. Teams like Buffalo, who have their DC sitting out this year after losing their OC last year. What moves have they made to get over the hump? Did they have any significant FA signing? Or America’s Team, who hasn’t won two playoff games since 1996, where is their sense of urgency? 
 
What are these “all in” moves, and who’s making them? 

The Cowboys cut Elliott, while the Jets are being criticized by the "not all in" group here for not signing Cook.  Makes no sense.  

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

3 hours ago, nj meadowlands said:

I don't know who's put their ballsack on the table more than the Jets have, but these are the other teams that 100% have a Super Bowl or Bust mentality:

Bills
Bengals
Chiefs
Eagles
Cowboys
49ers
Dolphins
Ravens

 

These teams can't be discounted but I wouldn't consider them as thirsty:

Jaguars
Lions
Browns
Giants

 

The Browns did the ultimate "all in" move last year, signing serial sexual assaulter Watson to the largest and worst contract in NFL history, although I'm sure @jgb would disagree with that assessment.  

[rex-n-effect]

The "all-in" and "Super Bowl or bust" mentality is a media creation more than anything. The only way you can be 100% all-in or Super Bowl or bust is to make every possible move to win right now with reckless abandon of the team's future. E.g. create cap hell for the future, trade away draft picks and young players to bring in vets, sign ridiculous contracts to free agents to ensure you get the team you want. People who really subscribe to that idea are disappointed the team didn't get Cook, Hopkins, OBJ, etc. because Douglas didn't make every single possible move to scrape together every incremental potential improvement for this year possible. It's a way for the media to create controversy to debate whether Douglas did enough in the off-season. 

Douglas didn't sacrifice the future and for that reason, I guess it's fair to say the team is not "all-in" but to your point, there isn't any team out there doing that. 

[jgb]

49 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

The Browns did the ultimate "all in" move last year, signing serial sexual assaulter Watson to the largest and worst contract in NFL history, although I'm sure @jgb would disagree with that assessment.  

Wut?

[JiFtheOracle]

42 minutes ago, slats said:

Like us as in that that’s what the Jets have done? Or that they need to do more? 
 
I don’t necessarily agree about selling out (too much more, that is) long term for short term. They’ve already probably given up a first rounder next year and Rodgers will probably be on the payroll until 2026.

Are there any other teams “like us” that you see as taking those bigger risks, etc.? 

Obviously the Jets made the biggest all in move this offseason.  I'd say the only other that could even apply are the Browns and Cowboys maybe Dolphins.  When you really think about it, last year for Watson didnt matter w/ that suspension, it was all about this year and beyond but they went out got Moore via trade and then continued w/ that strategy by pairing Garrett w/ Za'Darius Smith via trade.  Dolphins signed Gaskins and traded for Ramsey.  Cowboys traded for Cook and Gilmore, older vets, so that could be an argument as well.  

....but yeah, none of them anywhere near as significant as the Jets, especially when you consider all the other veteran additions they made; Lazard, Cobb, Hardman, Woods, Amos, Turner, Scweitzer, McGovern, traded for Clark too, loaded up on pass rushers, etc. etc. etc. 

[rangerous]

4 hours ago, nj meadowlands said:

I don't know who's put their ballsack on the table more than the Jets have, but these are the other teams that 100% have a Super Bowl or Bust mentality:

Bills
Bengals
Chiefs
Eagles
Cowboys
49ers
Dolphins
Ravens

 

These teams can't be discounted but I wouldn't consider them as thirsty:

Jaguars
Lions
Browns
Giants

 

I think I’d add the scams. After all, didn’t they just add milfy to their staff? In all seriousness, mcvay has got to be on some sort of hot seat.  I also think the doltfins aren’t quite there yet and don’t count the patsies out. Kraft knows bellichicken needs to deliver.

[jgb]

Just now, rangerous said:

I think I’d add the scams. After all, didn’t they just add milfy to their staff? In all seriousness, mcvay has got to be on some sort of hot seat.  I also think the doltfins aren’t quite there yet and don’t count the patsies out. Kraft knows bellichicken needs to deliver.

Mccvay on the hot seat? Come on, now.

[rangerous]

32 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said:

The "all-in" and "Super Bowl or bust" mentality is a media creation more than anything. The only way you can be 100% all-in or Super Bowl or bust is to make every possible move to win right now with reckless abandon of the team's future. E.g. create cap hell for the future, trade away draft picks and young players to bring in vets, sign ridiculous contracts to free agents to ensure you get the team you want. People who really subscribe to that idea are disappointed the team didn't get Cook, Hopkins, OBJ, etc. because Douglas didn't make every single possible move to scrape together every incremental potential improvement for this year possible. It's a way for the media to create controversy to debate whether Douglas did enough in the off-season. 

Douglas didn't sacrifice the future and for that reason, I guess it's fair to say the team is not "all-in" but to your point, there isn't any team out there doing that. 

Maybe signing these big names will work but football isn’t like baseball or basketball. These are all fine players but they may not play as well as expected on a jets team. So did the jets do enough? Maybe. Their biggest issue the past few seasons has been injuries and being able to field a consistent oline.

[jgb]

No teams are all in because Cook is still a FA

[rangerous]

3 minutes ago, jgb said:

Mccvay on the hot seat? Come on, now.

He has a season like last season and could be launched. His only saving grace is they tried to trade (dump) stafford so maybe the scams think he’s the guy for the rebuild.

[jgb]

Just now, rangerous said:

He has a season like last season and could be launched. His only saving grace is they tried to trade (dump) stafford so maybe the scams think he’s the guy for the rebuild.

[Warfish]

2 hours ago, slats said:

Like us as in that that’s what the Jets have done? Or that they need to do more? 

As in we spent 100 million dollars and #1 and #2 picks to replace a horrible historic bust QB with an ancient HOF QB at the end of his carre, just to be considered "all in".  Then followed it up with several moves considered "win now" moves, or focused around winning now with this QB, after that.

K.C. doesn't have to do any of that.  They're just "in" as is.

TLDR:  We had do alot to be considered in.  Good teams don't, they're just in because they're good, consistently.

 

[Creepy Lurker]

2 hours ago, Warfish said:

IMO most good teams don't have to worry about this "all in" idea.

They're simply "in".  Annually.  Without selling the future or farm.

Bad teams have to do "all in", taking bigger risks and selling long term for short term, in order to turn it around. 

Like us.

I read this as “anally” at first glance. 

[jgb]

30 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said:

I read this as “anally” at first glance. 

Then you read his mind, not his post.

[Warfish]

2 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said:

I read this as “anally” at first glance. 

Changes the whole meaning, doesn't it?

Or maybe not.

[Jet Nut]

7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The unnamed poster we're talking about thinks the Jets lost that trade even if Rodgers wins a SB here.

No one who thinks that can be reasoned with.  Essentially he's saying a couple high draft picks is too high of a price for a Lombardi.  That's madness.  Especially for a supposed Jets fan to say.  

Exactly what he said to me.  And worse it’s not two high picks, the first that we’d owe GB would barely be a 1st at #32.  
 

Even a mid 1 and a 2 for a SB win, I’ll dance down the street for that scenario. 

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, Warfish said:

As in we spent 100 million dollars and #1 and #2 picks to replace a horrible historic bust QB with an ancient HOF QB at the end of his carre, just to be considered "all in".  Then followed it up with several moves considered "win now" moves, or focused around winning now with this QB, after that.

K.C. doesn't have to do any of that.  They're just "in" as is.

TLDR:  We had do alot to be considered in.  Good teams don't, they're just in because they're good, consistently.

 

Not so sure.  The #2 team a year ago made a lot of moves to improve.  
Dolphins, Lions, Ravens all made moves.  
I’d argue if you’re close you should go all in.