Star running backs discussed the idea of malingering

[Bronx]

 

 

[Larz]

Doubtful.  

[Bronx]

 

[Larz]

Btw if you want an example of a star RB that stayed healthy and got extended to 6 years, look at Chubb. 

[Beerfish]

One of the major reasons you are not getting paid is due to injuries.  Fake injuries are not going to help you.

One thing for sure the Rb group should lobby for is at least equal protection by the refs.   It is totally ridiculous how after a guy is stopped he will keep gettig hit, smashed and thrown to the ground well after a whistle.  Things that would instantly get a penalty if it was a Qb or a defenseless WR.

[Bronx]

1 minute ago, Larz said:

Btw if you want an example of a star RB that stayed healthy and got extended to 6 years, look at Chubb. 

They could have had internal discussions about a form of retaliation. This story will continue to develop. 

[Larz]

Also the Giants signing Robinson is all you need to know about how teams think about this. There are 3 guys that think 11 million isn’t enough and 100 that would play for 2 million 

[Dunnie]

12 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

One of the major reasons you are not getting paid is due to injuries.  Fake injuries are not going to help you.
One thing for sure the Rb group should lobby for is at least equal protection by the refs.   It is totally ridiculous how after a guy is stopped he will keep gettig hit, smashed and thrown to the ground well after a whistle.  Things that would instantly get a penalty if it was a Qb or a defenseless WR.

Are you old enough to remember Barry Sanders ? That would explain the 'bring the man down' mentality. I for one would prefer that to blowing the whistle early while the RB is still fighting.

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Edited July 23, 2023 by Dunnie

[Bronx]

2 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

Are you old enough to remember Barry Sanders ? That would explain the 'bring the man doesn't mentality. I for one would prefer that to blowing the whistle early while the RB is still fighting.

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I loved Barry Sanders, the best. He is probably on of the very few players outside of the Jets that I actually liked.

 

 

[Larz]

Chubb: There’s really nothing we can do,” he said Sunday following practice. “We’re kind of handcuffed with the situation. Our production hurts us the most. If we go out there and run for 2,000 yards with so many carries, the next year they’re going to say you’re probably worn down.

“That’s the biggest thing that I took from it (the call). It’s just tough. It hurts us just to go out there and do good. It hurts us at the end of the day.”

 

 

[David Harris]

Revis did that, “maybe I’ll pull a hammy”

[MR.GANGGREEN28]

54 minutes ago, Larz said:

Doubtful.  

Yeah definitely a questionable tactic.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

25 minutes ago, Larz said:

Chubb: There’s really nothing we can do,” he said Sunday following practice. “We’re kind of handcuffed with the situation. Our production hurts us the most. If we go out there and run for 2,000 yards with so many carries, the next year they’re going to say you’re probably worn down.

“That’s the biggest thing that I took from it (the call). It’s just tough. It hurts us just to go out there and do good. It hurts us at the end of the day.
 

 

Kinda crazy that’s the only position where a lot of success is then looked at as a negative like he mentioned. Sucks. 
 

[Drums]

Bad karma to exaggerate injuries. I’d be careful with that my friends. 

[Larz]

25 minutes ago, Zachtomims47 said:

Kinda crazy that’s the only position where a lot of success is then looked at as a negative like he mentioned. Sucks. 
 

Yup. Can’t get the max dollars unless you put up numbers. Derek Henry is on year 7 and his contract is bleak. 
 

 

[k-met57]

the CBA is good for another 7 years. stfu and get back to work.

the players NEVER EVER win these things. guess what....the fact that the team wont pay you, also means they think they can replace you.

[Untouchable]

Oh, they’re thinking of “malingering” are they?

[Hal N of Provo]

Something’s broken in the system for RBs and I don’t blame them for exploring what they can do.

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, Dunnie said:

Are you old enough to remember Barry Sanders ? That would explain the 'bring the man down' mentality. I for one would prefer that to blowing the whistle early while the RB is still fighting.

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As with all things, there is a happy medium, a balance.

 

[32EBoozer]

1 hour ago, Larz said:

Btw if you want an example of a star RB that stayed healthy and got extended to 6 years, look at Chubb. 

Saquan should see if he can change his position to WR. Tag is higher IIRC and he’s better than every Giant WR

[Rolloffjet]

Sorry but i say f them. Just take what the market says. Pretty sure if it was about kickers not getting paid the rbs would care less about them. All position in football get paid accordingly. I feel bad for them the lower paid ones but it is what it is.

[Jet hustle]

7 minutes ago, Rolloffjet said:

Sorry but i say f them. Just take what the market says. Pretty sure if it was about kickers not getting paid the rbs would care less about them. All position in football get paid accordingly. I feel bad for them the lower paid ones but it is what it is.

Agreed.  The fact is.... you can win WITHOUT the high top paid 'Lamborghini ' running back.  Hence why teams are CHOOSING not to pay the premium.    It's really a simple concept 

[Obrien2Toon]

It’s sad for the backs, but there’s really nothing you can do about it.  I feel bad for then

but it’s a supply/demand situation 

[NIGHT STALKER]

Why did McCaffrey attend this zoom?  Didn't he sign a nice contract not too long ago...maybe a solidarity type thing?

[Larz]

2 hours ago, MR.GANGGREEN28 said:

Yeah definitely a questionable tactic.

And “ discussion “ is probably really a stretch. 

[Larz]

4 minutes ago, NIGHT STALKER said:

Why did McCaffrey attend this zoom?  Didn't he sign a nice contract not too long ago...maybe a solidarity type thing?

Yeah. I was surprised Chubb was on it. 

[OilfieldJet]

I have some, but rather limited, empathy for these guys. True, they risk significant short and long term damage, but being paid millions per year is more money than most will see in a lifetime. Get what you can, yes, but it’s not a bad deal.

[Alka]

3 hours ago, Larz said:

Also the Giants signing Robinson is all you need to know about how teams think about this. There are 3 guys that think 11 million isn’t enough and 100 that would play for 2 million 

I don't understand the signing of Robinson by the Giants.  He was ineffective for the Jets, and they ultimately made him sit it out.  The Jets gave a 6th round pick that was conditional to move up to a 5th round pick, but thankfully, the Jets never let him grind away to make it a 5th round pick. 

Not only could Robinson not come close to replacing Barkley, I don't see him making the 47 man roster for the Giants. If he was any good, he would have beaten out Bam for  a spot.  

Barkely, IMHO, is the best offensive weapon that the Giants have.  I don't see the Giants making the playoffs this year with him.

[Bronx]

4 minutes ago, Alka said:

Not only could Robinson not come close to replacing Barkley, I don't see him making the 47 man roster for the Giants. If he was any good, he would have beaten out Bam for  a spot.  

Mimsy has a better shot in Detroit than Robinson with the Giants. 

[Larz]

1 minute ago, Alka said:

I don't understand the signing of Robinson by the Giants.  He was ineffective for the Jets, and they ultimately made him sit it out.  The Jets gave a 6th round pick that was conditional to move up to a 5th round pick, but thankfully, the Jets never let him grind away to make it a 5th round pick. 

Not only could Robinson not come close to replacing Barkley, I don't see him making the 47 man roster for the Giants. If he was any good, he would have beaten out Bam for  a spot.  

Barkely, IMHO, is the best offensive weapon that the Giants have.  I don't see the Giants making the playoffs this year with him.

Nothing changes the 5/7 reality.  They fall off a cliff after 5 years and are out of the league in 7.  The point is that the giants are planning on playing without him. They would welcome him back but the offer is what it is. Just like the Steelers and Bell. 

[Alka]

8 minutes ago, Larz said:

 The point is that the giants are planning on playing without him.

Then the Giants are planning on not making the playoffs!

[Larz]

Just now, Alka said:

Then the Giants are planning on not making the playoffs!

He can sign the tag anytime. 

[freestater]

Thread title seems like it was authored by Scout Finch.

[Alka]

9 minutes ago, Bronx said:

Mimsy has a better shot in Detroit than Robinson with the Giants. 

100%.  Mims has the ability, and he has the talent.  Robinson is done!  Toast!  If he makes the Giants, he will be sitting on the pine by week #3.

[Alka]

3 minutes ago, Larz said:

He can sign the tag anytime. 

I think that is what will happen, after the first game.  He will punish the team by not having him for week #1, and not having a significant role in week #2.