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WR Mecole Hardman Determined to Expand Role on Offense


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33 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

Hardman and Davis will both be fighting for targets behind Wilson and Lazard. I would not be surprised if combined they don't have 1000 yards receiving.  

That is possible but I would take the over. I think Davis is going to eat into Lazards yards so to speak. So if Hardman can come in at 400 they will go over combined.

Comes down to injuries obviously, nice to have some depth.

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5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

He didnt do that on a pass happy team, who did not have a true #1 receiver, had the best qb in the league throwing him the ball and played for the best offensive mind in the game.

That's because they already had Hill and Kelce running those routes.  Even great HCs like Reid are guilty of pigeonholing players and limiting them.  They wanted to use him as a returner and gadget player to keep opponents off balance.  They never gave him the chance to run those other routes.  It's pretty hard to do something if you're not given the opportunity.

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4 hours ago, Stark said:

 

Hardman should outperform Davis. It won’t be hard Davis will miss 4-8 games. Have untimely drops and penalties as he has his entire career. Davis isn’t even UDFA Robbie Anderson level. Lol. Wtf. Waste of $11 mil

You can't be serious thinking Robbie Anderson is better than Davis!

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4 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Davis has had a 900 yard and 1,000 yard season.  Hardmans best was 700 yards.  Its not even close in regards to whos better.

Guy, you're comparing apples and oranges.  Davis got a lot more snaps and opportunities than Hardman did.  Davis can't stay healthy and he drops too many passes.  It will be interesting to see if Rodgers makes him better or if Rodgers ignores him once Davis drops a TD or two.  Hardman is going to get more opportunities with the Jets than he did in KC.  We'll see what happens.

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8 hours ago, Stark said:

 

Hardman should outperform Davis. It won’t be hard Davis will miss 4-8 games. Have untimely drops and penalties as he has his entire career. Davis isn’t even UDFA Robbie Anderson level. Lol. Wtf. Waste of $11 mil

Not bringing in a significant upgrade for Corey Davis is a major miss this offseason for JD.

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7 hours ago, JKlecko said:

That's because they already had Hill and Kelce running those routes.  Even great HCs like Reid are guilty of pigeonholing players and limiting them.  They wanted to use him as a returner and gadget player to keep opponents off balance.  They never gave him the chance to run those other routes.  It's pretty hard to do something if you're not given the opportunity.

Hill was not on the team last year.  KC didnt have a true number 1 last year and hardman not only didnt step up, he was a total bust.

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12 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

He didnt do that on a pass happy team, who did not have a true #1 receiver, had the best qb in the league throwing him the ball and played for the best offensive mind in the game.

No?  
What were Shuster and Kelce?  With 2,400 yards between them? 

Hardman wasn’t used as a traditional WR in KC

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47 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Jets had a #1 in Garret Wilson.  And again, Davis has a 1,000 yard and 900 yard seasons under his belt.  Hardman has never come close to that.

it won't be hard for mecole to outperform him this year. that is my point. Davis can't stay healthy. and is overrated by way too many here.

we'll let the season tell the story. 

 

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54 minutes ago, Stark said:

 

better, actually yeah the undrafted FA is better than the 5th overall pick in the draft

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No, he isn't.  IMO that's an absurd take.  You're comparing apples and oranges.  Anderson was given the opportunity to run routes that Hardman hasn't yet. Stats are misleading.

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47 minutes ago, Stark said:

it won't be hard for mecole to outperform him this year. that is my point. Davis can't stay healthy. and is overrated by way too many here.

we'll let the season tell the story. 

 

You're pounding on corey davis for not being healthy yet hardman missed half the season last year.  Too funny.

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Honestly I have higher expectations for both Davis and Hardman than I do for Lazard.  Though Wilson might be the only flashy one, you can't deny Rodgers has a lot of weapons to work with this year.  Excited to see who he clicks with outside of Wilson(fingers crossed for my boy Ruckert).  

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2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Hill was not on the team last year.  KC didnt have a true number 1 last year and hardman not only didnt step up, he was a total bust.

Hardman was KC’s #2 WR his first three years in the league and last year he missed half the season to injury. Hard to step up that way. 
 
If you look at the Packers with Adams, he got more than twice as many targets as the #2. In KC, it was Hill and Kelce and everyone else split the scraps (with Hardman getting the most). Here, running the Packers scheme, I’d expect to see Wilson get a ton of targets with Lazard getting his fair share, too. Davis will have to earn Rodgers’ trust as a secondary target. The Jets will look to have a balanced attack, and Davis will be on the field largely for blocking abilities. Conversely, Hardman will be brought in with plays designed to get him the ball. 

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18 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

You're pounding on corey davis for not being healthy yet hardman missed half the season last year.  Too funny.

Davis has had one season out of six in the league in which he was available for every game. Last year was the first season Hardman missed a game in four years in the league. 

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2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Hill was not on the team last year.  KC didnt have a true number 1 last year and hardman not only didnt step up, he was a total bust.

It's not a matter of not stepping up imo.  The HC and OC determine a player's role, not the player.  By the time Hill left KC, Reid had already determined in his mind what Hardman's role would be.  They very well could have drafted him JUST to be their return man and gadget player.  Also, Hardman was injured last year and only played in 8 games.  It's hard to compile stats when you're on IR or standing on the sideline.  Still, in those 8 games, Hardman scored 6 TDs and had 297 receiving yard and 31 rushing yards on only 4 attempts.  Anderson played in 6 games with the Panthers and 10 games with the Cardinals . He scored 1 TD with the Panthers and had 206 receiving yards.  With the Cardinals he had ZERO TDs, and only had 76 receiving yards.  So, in half the games, Hardman had more receiving yards and 6 times as many TDs.  In spite of his limited role, Hardman's career yards per catch average is 14.5 and Anderson's is 13.4.  Hardman averages 6.2 ypc rushing the ball.  He has also scored a PR TD and a KOR TD.

 

 

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