Quinnen Williams #40 NFL top 100

[Larz]

 

 

[Bobby816]

Only getting better too. I said when we drafted him that bc of the DTs we had at the time. That the talent was certainly worthy of the pick. But he was going to have to be Aaron Donald good for it to be a success. And he’s trending in that direction. He’s already a dominant DT and still young.

[Larz]

This reminds me of when the jets drafted him, an analyst said he was slippery lol. Doesn’t sound intimidating until you remember once he slips by you he crushes your QB

[JiFtheOracle]

This is nice but there are not 40 players better than Q.Will.  I legit believe Sauce and Q.Will could have DPOY caliber seasons. 

[JiFtheOracle]

10 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

Only getting better too. I said when we drafted him that bc of the DTs we had at the time. That the talent was certainly worthy of the pick. But he was going to have to be Aaron Donald good for it to be a success. And he’s trending in that direction. He’s already a dominant DT and still young.

I will admit, this is one of my biggest misses.  He was on my "do not want list".  I thought he was going to be a run stuffer and the value wasnt worth 3 overall and boy I could be happier to be wrong on that one.  Love me some Q.Will.  He's one of my all time favorite Jets.

[k-met57]

16 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

Only getting better too. I said when we drafted him that bc of the DTs we had at the time. That the talent was certainly worthy of the pick. But he was going to have to be Aaron Donald good for it to be a success. And he’s trending in that direction. He’s already a dominant DT and still young.

the one thing that mccagnon got right, and most fans got wrong. Quinnen was the right pick because he is that special.

[FidelioJet]

16 minutes ago, JiF said:

This is nice but there are not 40 players better than Q.Will.  I legit believe Sauce and Q.Will could have DPOY caliber seasons. 

Yeah,  My money would be on him to win DPOY over any player in the league.

He's absolutely better than 40.

[PS17]

16 minutes ago, JiF said:

I will admit, this is one of my biggest misses.  He was on my "do not want list".  I thought he was going to be a run stuffer and the value wasnt worth 3 overall and boy I could be happier to be wrong on that one.  Love me some Q.Will.  He's one of my all time favorite Jets.

Blown away by how Quinnen has developed. I thought it was such a gutless, typical Maccagnan pick. And now he’s a game wrecker, first team all-pro who still hasn’t reached his ceiling. There’s nothing more valuable on defense than an elite pass rusher from the interior. 

[Rhg1084]

He had a better season than Aaron Donald last year who will prob be ranked top 5. Q should be top 15 at least, he’s in a tier below the Donald, TJ Watt, Parsons, Bosa brothers group. After those guys not sure who I’d take over Q in a defensive only draft. Maybe Sauce?

[BornJetsFan1983]

41 minutes ago, Bobby816 said:

Only getting better too. I said when we drafted him that bc of the DTs we had at the time. That the talent was certainly worthy of the pick. But he was going to have to be Aaron Donald good for it to be a success. And he’s trending in that direction. He’s already a dominant DT and still young.

so your estimation is he has to be the unquestioned best DT in the league to be good? doesn't seem right. Bro every first round pick doesn't become the best player at their position. 

I think that is unfair to ask of any payer. You shoudl just become a good starter that contributes. 

[Larz]

4 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

He had a better season than Aaron Donald last year who will prob be ranked top 5. Q should be top 15 at least, he’s in a tier below the Donald, TJ Watt, Parsons, Bosa brothers group. After those guys not sure who I’d take over Q in a defensive only draft. Maybe Sauce?

Oops 

[Beerfish]

Quinnen needs more snaps.    He is 5-10% less snaps or more than most other of the top DT's.  He is much better than the guys they are going to rotate in for him.

[Bobby816]

29 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

so your estimation is he has to be the unquestioned best DT in the league to be good? doesn't seem right. Bro every first round pick doesn't become the best player at their position. 

I think that is unfair to ask of any payer. You shoudl just become a good starter that contributes. 

We at the time had a good rush D. So he seemed not a need at all. So for me when you draft a player at a position you’re already good at. That guy better be a special talent.

Like I said. Never questioned Qs talent, his talent was worthy of that 3rd pick. I questioned going DT. So when we drafted Q. I said he’s good. But bc of what we had he was going to have to be special. And he is. So it all worked out.

 

I felt this way rather recently when we drafted Sauce. I didn’t think CB was a need. Sauce was certainly worthy of the pick. But I thought we needed a DE more. We wound up drafting JJ. So it all worked out… but at the time I had similar feeling as to when we drafted Q. Player us crazy good. Just not where we need.

 

I probably got this way when we spent 3/4 of a decade just drafting DL every year instead of spreading out our resources.

[rangerous]

40 seems very low unless he’s one of the top dlinemen on the list. Heck isn’t Moseley number 46?

[Larz]

46 minutes ago, rangerous said:

40 seems very low unless he’s one of the top dlinemen on the list. Heck isn’t Moseley number 46?

That’s what I thought. I figured around 25

[Barton]

Hell of a year but he also played knowing that a big season was going to get him paid. 

Show me again this year, Q. 

[Jethead]

Q habeen my favorite since drafted him. Such anawsome talent and seems like a great kid.

Baby Huey!

[BornJetsFan1983]

1 hour ago, Bobby816 said:

We at the time had a good rush D. So he seemed not a need at all. So for me when you draft a player at a position you’re already good at. That guy better be a special talent.

Like I said. Never questioned Qs talent, his talent was worthy of that 3rd pick. I questioned going DT. So when we drafted Q. I said he’s good. But bc of what we had he was going to have to be special. And he is. So it all worked out.

 

I felt this way rather recently when we drafted Sauce. I didn’t think CB was a need. Sauce was certainly worthy of the pick. But I thought we needed a DE more. We wound up drafting JJ. So it all worked out… but at the time I had similar feeling as to when we drafted Q. Player us crazy good. Just not where we need.

 

I probably got this way when we spent 3/4 of a decade just drafting DL every year instead of spreading out our resources.

Oh for sure I'm with you all those guys we drafted but your example is perfect. Sauce is amazing and made a good spot great . Worth it every time.

[BornJetsFan1983]

49 minutes ago, Larz said:

That’s what I thought. I figured around 25

Only two guy at his position ahead of him. Def bigger diff maker than mosely

[Sperm Edwards]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Quinnen needs more snaps.    He is 5-10% less snaps or more than most other of the top DT's.  He is much better than the guys they are going to rotate in for him.

The question is, which yields better performance and exhausts the opposing OL more?

1. Quinnen's most exhausted snaps on the field while sucking wind

2. His sub-in's 100% freshest snaps totally rested, which simultaneously keeps Quinnen more rested for when his sub-in subs back out.

It may very well be #1, but it's also the case #2 also reduces the chances of hitting a wall in December (or January/February), and keeps him fresher not just at the end of the season, but at the end of each game (and 4th quarters can get plenty exhausting even in the season's first month).

The Jets have enough DL talent to sub him out on that extra 10% without the D falling to crap (unless there's a gap leading right to CJM), and they've enjoyed some pretty good success thus far doing it this way (which itself is before JJII and Clemons started to shake off rookie rust, or McDonald comes in fresh as another x-factor). 

Just saying that, while you could very well be right, having him on for another 5-10% more snaps may therefore add 5-10% more of his worst snaps at the expense of someone else's 5-10% best. Maybe.

[GreenFish]

For those wondering how many Jets so far

74: Garrett Wilson WR

51: Aaron Rodgers QB

46: CJ Mosley LB

40: Quinnen Williams iDL

TBD: Sauce Gardner will likely be showing up soon

 

That's 5 players. Can't imagine we've had this much in a while. 

[Jetsfan80]

5 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

For those wondering how many Jets so far

74: Garrett Wilson WR

51: Aaron Rodgers QB

46: CJ Mosley LB

40: Quinnen Williams iDL

TBD: Sauce Gardner will likely be showing up soon

 

That's 5 players. Can't imagine we've had this much in a while. 

Yet some here wanted Joe Douglas fired several months ago.   

[Sperm Edwards]

7 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

For those wondering how many Jets so far

74: Garrett Wilson WR

51: Aaron Rodgers QB

46: CJ Mosley LB

40: Quinnen Williams iDL

TBD: Sauce Gardner will likely be showing up soon

 

That's 5 players. Can't imagine we've had this much in a while. 

5*

(4 well-deserved players plus Mosley 🙃)

Plus Reed arguably had a better season at corner than Mosley had at LB anyway, as well as JFM (both he & Mosley had two huge bonehead plays, so there's no reason to hold it against one but not the other). On top of them, two of the team's best talents - Breece & AVT - didn't qualify because they got injured so early.

The roster is pretty stacked, even aside from it's obvious weakness at MLB.

[GreenFish]

9 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

5*

(4 well-deserved players plus Mosley 🙃)

Plus Reed arguably had a better season at corner than Mosley had at LB anyway, as well as JFM (both he & Mosley had two huge bonehead plays, so there's no reason to hold it against one but not the other). On top of them, two of the team's best talents - Breece & AVT - didn't qualify because they got injured so early.

The roster is pretty stacked, even aside from it's obvious weakness at MLB.

Insane how talented the team is now. We have high end talent at key positions. And we have depth.

And we somehow still have cap space to add players.

[Sarge4Tide]

[Beerfish]

1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said:

The question is, which yields better performance and exhausts the opposing OL more?

1. Quinnen's most exhausted snaps on the field while sucking wind

2. His sub-in's 100% freshest snaps totally rested, which simultaneously keeps Quinnen more rested for when his sub-in subs back out.

It may very well be #1, but it's also the case #2 also reduces the chances of hitting a wall in December (or January/February), and keeps him fresher not just at the end of the season, but at the end of each game (and 4th quarters can get plenty exhausting even in the season's first month).

The Jets have enough DL talent to sub him out on that extra 10% without the D falling to crap (unless there's a gap leading right to CJM), and they've enjoyed some pretty good success thus far doing it this way (which itself is before JJII and Clemons started to shake off rookie rust, or McDonald comes in fresh as another x-factor). 

Just saying that, while you could very well be right, having him on for another 5-10% more snaps may therefore add 5-10% more of his worst snaps at the expense of someone else's 5-10% best. Maybe.

Well we do not know do we becasue the coaches refuse to up his playing time to that of the other top DTs.

One reason why he had a big step up last year?  His snap % went from like just over 50% to about 68%

[JiFtheOracle]

8 hours ago, GreenFish said:

For those wondering how many Jets so far

74: Garrett Wilson WR

51: Aaron Rodgers QB

46: CJ Mosley LB

40: Quinnen Williams iDL

TBD: Sauce Gardner will likely be showing up soon

 

That's 5 players. Can't imagine we've had this much in a while. 

Wait, DJ Reed wasnt on this list?  WTF!!!

 

[Jet Nut]

13 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Well we do not know do we becasue the coaches refuse to up his playing time to that of the other top DTs.

One reason why he had a big step up last year?  His snap % went from like just over 50% to about 68%

Because the coaching staff isn’t in place to pump up Q’s personal stats.  They’re trying to have a player that’s fresh in the 4th Q and in December.  

[Larz]

11 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

5*

(4 well-deserved players plus Mosley 🙃)

Plus Reed arguably had a better season at corner than Mosley had at LB anyway, as well as JFM (both he & Mosley had two huge bonehead plays, so there's no reason to hold it against one but not the other). On top of them, two of the team's best talents - Breece & AVT - didn't qualify because they got injured so early.

The roster is pretty stacked, even aside from it's obvious weakness at MLB.

[jetstream23]

10 hours ago, JiF said:

Wait, DJ Reed wasnt on this list?  WTF!!!

 

Completely underrated player.  DJ Reed is a much more important piece to this defense than most people realize, especially with QBs starting to avoid Sauce.  If the Jets have some leads and we force opponents to pass then I think DJ Reed will be a huge factor in how the D performs.  Could be a very busy guy this year.

 

[Hex]

13 hours ago, JiF said:

Wait, DJ Reed wasnt on this list?  WTF!!!

 

I mean, I would put him in the top 20

He was nearly as good as Sauce