Izzy

[Lith]

I was not thrilled with what I saw out of him against Cleveland, but I thought he looked great on Saturday.  And the PFF numbers seem to back that up.  For today, I like PFF.

[slats]

I’ve heard from his neighbor that he’s not NFL ready, though. 

[jbt]

2 minutes ago, slats said:

I’ve heard from his neighbor that he’s not NFL ready, though. 

he lives next to dalvin cook?

[slats]

3 minutes ago, jbt said:

he lives next to dalvin cook?

No, but a big fan of his. 

[HighPitch]

This is a weird year. Personally I think we have the most stacked rb room in the league. Still, the jets are looking at cook and others and the fans here seem to think it is the right thing to do considering our #1 is still rehabbing. REALLY? We are stacked! If we JUST had carter or JUST had Izzy or JUST had Bam, ok but we have all three so why waste resources on a POS like cook

[Sonny Werblin]

[Barry McCockinner]

That Panthers safety should have been cut on the field after how the spin move made him look.

[Joe W. Namath]

3 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

This is a weird year. Personally I think we have the most stacked rb room in the league. Still, the jets are looking at cook and others and the fans here seem to think it is the right thing to do considering our #1 is still rehabbing. REALLY? We are stacked! If we JUST had carter or JUST had Izzy or JUST had Bam, ok but we have all three so why waste resources on a POS like cook

They are not looking at Cook.  Dog and pony show.

Izzy looks great.  But I do not think he will play much this year unless there is an injury.  Hes got 3 good backs in front of him.

1 year in an nfl strength and conditioning program and to learn the pass blocking concepts, he will be ready to be RB1b next year.

2024 - Breece/Izzy = Bo Jackson/Marcus Allen

[Barry McCockinner]

I thought Deuce Vaughn was more impressive this week but glad to see Izzy playing well. Zero need for a washed up veteran RB on this team @Bobby816

[OilfieldJet]

10 minutes ago, HighPitch said:

This is a weird year. Personally I think we have the most stacked rb room in the league. Still, the jets are looking at cook and others and the fans here seem to think it is the right thing to do considering our #1 is still rehabbing. REALLY? We are stacked! If we JUST had carter or JUST had Izzy or JUST had Bam, ok but we have all three so why waste resources on a POS like cook

Maybe they were kicking tires. Given our OL and LB situation, hard to seriously consider another RB.

[OilfieldJet]

5 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

They are not looking at Cook.  Dog and pony show.

Izzy looks great.  But I do not think he will play much this year unless there is an injury.  Hes got 3 good backs in front of him.

1 year in an nfl strength and conditioning program and to learn the pass blocking concepts, he will be ready to be RB1b next year.

2024 - Breece/Izzy = Bo Jackson/Marcus Allen

You mean Boozer/Snell.

[Jack Straw]

Bringing Dalvin Cook in for a visit at least signals to the entire team that nobody's job is safe. That's a valuable message that costs exactly $0.

[Greenseed4]

2 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

Bringing Dalvin Cook in for a visit at least signals to the entire team that nobody's job is safe. That's a valuable message that costs exactly $0.

Exactly $0?

or, less than $0?

[neckdemon]

23 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

They are not looking at Cook.  Dog and pony show.

Izzy looks great.  But I do not think he will play much this year unless there is an injury.  Hes got 3 good backs in front of him.

1 year in an nfl strength and conditioning program and to learn the pass blocking concepts, he will be ready to be RB1b next year.

2024 - Breece/Izzy = Bo Jackson/Marcus Allen

Izzy will pass up Carter and knight on the depth chart fairly quickly. Both of those guys are  nothing more than decent jags

[Bobby816]

37 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I thought Deuce Vaughn was more impressive this week but glad to see Izzy playing well. Zero need for a washed up veteran RB on this team @Bobby816

I've all along have said Izzy is our 2nd best RB on this team. But if you think he's getting Halls touches until he's healthy against good teams those 1st few weeks... you're kidding yourself.

 

No one talks about how we barely used Hall until Week 4 last season. He had 6 carries week 1, 7 carries week 2, 8 carries week 3. He did catch the ball 13 times in those 3 weeks too. But that means he averaged only 11 touches a game in those 1st 3 weeks. Izzy isn't nearly as useful in the passing game, so I don't expect him to get the receptions Hal would. We just aren't rolling out there giving Izzy 15 touches to start the season. If  we would. I wouldn't be saying we need a vet RB. But we wont. And Carter and Knight just don't run the ball effectively enough for me to think we can beat BUF, DAL, KC, etc early on.

[Sperm Edwards]

2 hours ago, Bobby816 said:

I've all along have said Izzy is our 2nd best RB on this team. But if you think he's getting Halls touches until he's healthy against good teams those 1st few weeks... you're kidding yourself.

 

No one talks about how we barely used Hall until Week 4 last season. He had 6 carries week 1, 7 carries week 2, 8 carries week 3. He did catch the ball 13 times in those 3 weeks too. But that means he averaged only 11 touches a game in those 1st 3 weeks. Izzy isn't nearly as useful in the passing game, so I don't expect him to get the receptions Hal would. We just aren't rolling out there giving Izzy 15 touches to start the season. If  we would. I wouldn't be saying we need a vet RB. But we wont. And Carter and Knight just don't run the ball effectively enough for me to think we can beat BUF, DAL, KC, etc early on.

13 catches and low carries were in no small part because LaFleur had Flacco dropping back to pass 50-60x per game those first 3 weeks.

[Bobby816]

6 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

13 catches and low carries were in no small part because LaFleur had Flacco dropping back to pass 50-60x per game those first 3 weeks.

Because we didn't trust our rookie RB yet.

Carter had 28 carries in those games and 13 catches as well.

So he had 7 more rushes and the same amount of catches as Hall in those 1st 3 weeks.

[tfine]

To me he lacks that breakaway speed. He is quick though. Kinda like a Bilal Powell.


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[Sperm Edwards]

1 minute ago, Bobby816 said:

Because we didn't trust our rookie RB yet

He didn't merely fail to hand it off to Hall; he barely handed it off to anyone with the D putting the team into holes. You'd think with them only looking meh he'd want to give the D a breather by running it. ffs Carter got 6 ypc that first week and they still only ran him 10x. 

[Barry McCockinner]

5 minutes ago, tfine said:

To me he lacks that breakaway speed. He is quick though. Kinda like a Bilal Powell.


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[jetsfan4life72]

13 minutes ago, tfine said:

To me he lacks that breakaway speed. He is quick though. Kinda like a Bilal Powell.


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Have you seen any of his college games? He’s a home run threat from anywhere on the field lol. 

[Matt39]

17 minutes ago, tfine said:

To me he lacks that breakaway speed. He is quick though. Kinda like a Bilal Powell.


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Think it’s the opposite. Questionable vision but can 1 cut and run down hill.

[BigRy56]

He has looked plug and play thus far - elusive and decisive with the ball in his hands. I think JD may have found a good one late in the draft

[hmhertz]

timed on some clocks at 4.26 at his Pro Day, Connor Rodgers

and confirmed by my research

[Larz]

Brooklyn kid !

I’m a sucker for that lol 

 

 

 

[Green Ghost]

Haven’t read the thread yet, but I said during the draft this kid was a steal, and that in order,  he and Tippman would be our two best picks.

I still feel that way.

[Beerfish]

An added bonus of the strong play of Abakanda and Zonovan Knight is it seems to have lit a fire under Carters ass with how he played last game.

[Joe Willie White Shoes]

4 hours ago, Bobby816 said:

I've all along have said Izzy is our 2nd best RB on this team. But if you think he's getting Halls touches until he's healthy against good teams those 1st few weeks... you're kidding yourself.

 

No one talks about how we barely used Hall until Week 4 last season. He had 6 carries week 1, 7 carries week 2, 8 carries week 3. He did catch the ball 13 times in those 3 weeks too. But that means he averaged only 11 touches a game in those 1st 3 weeks. Izzy isn't nearly as useful in the passing game, so I don't expect him to get the receptions Hal would. We just aren't rolling out there giving Izzy 15 touches to start the season. If  we would. I wouldn't be saying we need a vet RB. But we wont. And Carter and Knight just don't run the ball effectively enough for me to think we can beat BUF, DAL, KC, etc early on.

Hall's somewhat limited use early in 2022 was not because the CS did not trust him, but because Carter had such a good rookie season in 2021.  Carter did not become a bad player last season. By mid-season, he was injured, the OL was decimated, and the QB situation was a mess.  That's it.  Carter is fully able to carry the load if Hall is unable to go early in 23.  No need for a veteran.  And Abanikanda can take quality touches as well.  

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Practically identical.

[pointman]

I like our RB room. I don't need Dalvin Cook and his fake interest. 

[hmhertz]

17 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Practically identical.

False, is has been timed as fast as 4.26, has a 40'' vertical

jump.  By any statistical analysis as a rusher, receiver or scorer,

Izzy outperformed Bijan Robinson, the first RB taken

[The Crusher]

7 minutes ago, hmhertz said:

False, is has been timed as fast as 4.26, has a 40'' vertical

jump.  By any statistical analysis as a rusher, receiver or scorer,

Izzy outperformed Bijan Robinson, the first RB taken

LOL, thank you for correcting me 

[tfine]

I guess I stand corrected.


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[TuscanyTile2]

9 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

I'm stealing this one and will re-post it at some point in the future.

[Lupz27]

5 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Izzy is gonna make life difficult for Dalvin Cook.