Why Rex Ryan Was A Better Jets Head Coach Than Parcells

[THE BARON]

1. Rex went to two championship games.  Parcells went to 1.

2. Rex went to both of his championship games with a limited qb.  Parcells had a hot QB when he went to the championship game with the Jets. 

3. Parcells lost his championship game with the Jets in part to bad in game coaching and over coaching.

4. Rex lost his first championship game due to the team running out of defensive backs.  The Colts had more pass catchers than the Jets could shadow, This was a result of in game injury and not coaching. In spite of having a limited QB. the game plan was sound on both sides of the ball.

5. Rex lost his second championship game because the officials stopped calling offensive holds on the squeelers in the 4th quarter like they always did.  Those offensive plays that went on for over five seconds with the qb extending the play until a guy came open were courtesy of the officials looking the other way when there were clear holds taking place.  The Jets offense had the squeelers on their heels.  If the line judge and other officials didnt become blind to holding near the end of the game, the outcome would have been different.

Rex did everything to win his champ games, and Parcells blew it. 

Rex was the better coach and was a lot more fun too. 

[carlito1171]

22 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

5. Rex lost his second championship game because the officials stopped calling offensive holds on the squeelers in the 4th quarter like they always did.  Those offensive plays that went on for over five seconds with the qb extending the play until a guy came open were courtesy of the officials looking the other way when there were clear holds taking place.  The Jets offense had the squeelers on their heels.  If the line judge and other officials didnt become blind to holding near the end of the game, the outcome would have been different.

You conveniently left out the part where Rex’s vaunted defense gave up 100 yards rushing to Rashard Mendenhall in the 1st half….. 

[slimjasi]

Congrats to those who had Rex vs Parcells on their August 2023 JN bingo cards . . . Ya’ll WON 

[Facts]

To be honest, making 2 championship games with Sanchez throwing more interceptions than touchdowns is crazy.

It's part of the reason why I don't care for excuses that Saleh hasn't had a quarterback. Rex brought this team to the AFCCG with Sanchez throwing 12 TD's and 20 INT's.

[Adoni Beast]

One coach is

• In the Hall of Fame
• Won 2 Super Bowls with non-HOF QBs
• Went to 3 Super Bowls with 2 different teams
• Was a couple fumbles away from taking 3 different teams to the Super Bowl
• Took 4 different teams to the playoffs
• Had a head coaching career that spanned over 20 years
• Again all of this without ever having a HOF starting QB

The other coach is Rex Ryan

[THE BARON]

48 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

One coach is

• In the Hall of Fame
• Won 2 Super Bowls with non-HOF QBs
• Went to 3 Super Bowls with 2 different teams
• Was a couple fumbles away from taking 3 different teams to the Super Bowl
• Took 4 different teams to the playoffs
• Had a head coaching career that spanned over 20 years
• Again all of this without ever having a HOF starting QB

The other coach is Rex Ryan

I did say "better JETS HC"

[THE BARON]

52 minutes ago, carlito1171 said:

You conveniently left out the part where Rex’s vaunted defense gave up 100 yards rushing to Rashard Mendenhall in the 1st half….. 

How many points did the little Squeelers and their homer officiating crew score in that first half ?

[Beerfish]

Rex walked into an already built team loaded with talent and failed to get the most out of what he had.

Parcells took over a crap roster and made something out of it,

We all loved Rex at the time but it was a fail to not win the div in those years and the team came up totally flat in both title games.

 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

SHAME

[THE BARON]

5 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Rex walked into an already built team loaded with talent and failed to get the most out of what he had.

Parcells took over a crap roster and made something out of it,

We all loved Rex at the time but it was a fail to not win the div in those years and the team came up totally flat in both title games.

 

loaded team with a QB that threw more interceptions than TD's.  Show me one single coach that made it to one champ game much less two with a qb that had an upside down TD to INT stat.

[Beerfish]

3 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

loaded team with a QB that threw more interceptions than TD's.  Show me one single coach that made it to one champ game much less two with a qb that had an upside down TD to INT stat.

Rex and Tanny are the ones who went out and got sanchez, Tanny did not force sanchez on Rex it was both of THEM who decided they wanted a hot shot rookie rather than a proper vet.

[Jetsfan4life90]

1 hour ago, Facts said:

To be honest, making 2 championship games with Sanchez throwing more interceptions than touchdowns is crazy.

It's part of the reason why I don't care for excuses that Saleh hasn't had a quarterback. Rex brought this team to the AFCCG with Sanchez throwing 12 TD's and 20 INT's.

Except those 09-10 teams had way more talent than what Saleh has had the past two seasons, especially his first season. 

[THE BARON]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Rex and Tanny are the ones who went out and got sanchez, Tanny did not force sanchez on Rex it was both of THEM who decided they wanted a hot shot rookie rather than a proper vet.

Woody wanted Sanchez.  Woody wanted Tebow.  Woody wanted Geno Smith. 

but...

Woody wanted Aaron Rodgers too

Book not finished.  

[Joe W. Namath]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

OMG.

Rex was an awful head coach.  Parcells is a HOFer and one of the best ever.

This is hysterical.

[jgb]

1 hour ago, THE BARON said:

1. Rex went to two championship games.  Parcells went to 1.

2. Rex went to both of his championship games with a limited qb.  Parcells had a hot QB when he went to the championship game with the Jets. 

3. Parcells lost his championship game with the Jets in part to bad in game coaching and over coaching.

4. Rex lost his first championship game due to the team running out of defensive backs.  The Colts had more pass catchers than the Jets could shadow, This was a result of in game injury and not coaching. In spite of having a limited QB. the game plan was sound on both sides of the ball.

5. Rex lost his second championship game because the officials stopped calling offensive holds on the squeelers in the 4th quarter like they always did.  Those offensive plays that went on for over five seconds with the qb extending the play until a guy came open were courtesy of the officials looking the other way when there were clear holds taking place.  The Jets offense had the squeelers on their heels.  If the line judge and other officials didnt become blind to holding near the end of the game, the outcome would have been different.

Rex did everything to win his champ games, and Parcells blew it. 

Rex was the better coach and was a lot more fun too. 

Comparing 3 years against 5 by raw accomplishments while ignoring what either man did before or after their time here is really bad analysis.

[THE BARON]

2 minutes ago, Jetsfan4life90 said:

Except those 09-10 teams had way more talent than what Saleh has had the past two seasons, especially his first season. 

We are comparing REX and Parcells as Jets HCs.  The Parcells Jets had LOADS of talent.  Fantastic o-line, ball carrier, Keyshawn and Chrebet.  VERY good defense too.  Not to mention a VERY hot QB in Vinny T. 

[THE BARON]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

Comparing 3 years against 5 by raw accomplishments while ignoring what either man did before or after their time here is really bad analysis.

My statement that Rex was the better JETS HC is cogent according to the facts.  

[rldev]

1 hour ago, Facts said:

To be honest, making 2 championship games with Sanchez throwing more interceptions than touchdowns is crazy.

It's part of the reason why I don't care for excuses that Saleh hasn't had a quarterback. Rex brought this team to the AFCCG with Sanchez throwing 12 TD's and 20 INT's.

Well maybe with Breece Hall and AVT, we could have too.

[jgb]

Just now, THE BARON said:

My statement that Rex was the better JETS HC is cogent according to the facts.  

While ascribing the one good year Vinny T played in 20 years in the NFL to mere luck rather than considering that it was Parcells that coaxed that out of him.

[rldev]

14 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

loaded team with a QB that threw more interceptions than TD's.  Show me one single coach that made it to one champ game much less two with a qb that had an upside down TD to INT stat.

I'm pretty sure Sanchez had more touchdowns in the post season than ints.

[jgb]

58 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

OMG.

Rex was an awful head coach.  Parcells is a HOFer and one of the best ever.

This is hysterical.

You go too far the other way, friend. Terrible coaches do not make consecutive championship games. It is true that Rex has some person failings that led to his ultimate implosion, but to call him "terrible" I have to wonder what honorifics you reserve for Gase, Kotite, Bowles, Holz, etc.

[THE BARON]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

While ascribing the one good year Vinny T played in 20 years in the NFL to mere luck rather than considering that it was Parcells that coaxed that out of him.

BZZZZT.  Wrong again.  By Vinny T's own statements, it was Dan Henning that got his game on track. 

[THE BARON]

1 minute ago, rldev said:

I'm pretty sure Sanchez had more touchdowns in the post season than ints.

And it was Rex and ugh... Little Schotty that game planned for that.  Red light, yellow light, green light, one two three !!!

[jgb]

Just now, THE BARON said:

BZZZZT.  Wrong again.  By Vinny T's own statements, it was Dan Henning that got his game on track. 

I also thanked my mother in my graduation speech. But I took the tests.

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

And it was Rex and ugh... Little Schotty that game planned for that.  Red light, yellow light, green light, one two three !!!

Look, I think Rex is way over-criticized around here and I would not have been upset if he was brought back after Gase and called for it several times. Paraphrasing, "Rex isn't perfect but neither are the Jets and maybe it's just time to admit that he's the best Woody can hope to get."

I only point out that your comparison is flawed on a mathematical level. That's all.

[rldev]

1 minute ago, THE BARON said:

And it was Rex and ugh... Little Schotty that game planned for that.  Red light, yellow light, green light, one two three !!!

I loved Rex. 

[Joe W. Namath]

2 minutes ago, jgb said:

You go too far the other way, friend. Terrible coaches do not make consecutive championship games. It is true that Rex has some person failings that let to his ultimate implosion, but to call him "terrible" I have to wonder what honorifics you reserve for Gase, Kotite, Bowles, Holz, etc.

Bill Callahan went to a Super Bowl.  He was a terrible head coach.  Heck, Todd Bowles won 10 games in a season, he was terrible.

There are tons of examples of bad head coaches being handed talent and having a good season or 2.

Rex was an awful head coach.  Ran this franchise into the ground.  That is why he has been unemployed in the nfl for a decade.

To compare Rex to Parcells in lunacy.

[jgb]

2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Bill Callahan went to a Super Bowl.  He was a terrible head coach.  Heck, Todd Bowles won 10 games in a season, he was terrible.

There are tons of examples of bad head coaches being handed talent and having a good season or 2.

Rex was an awful head coach.  Ran this franchise into the ground.  That is why he has been unemployed in the nfl for a decade.

To compare Rex to Parcells in lunacy.

For a guy who doesn't believe in numbers between 0% and 100%, I'm not surprised that you don't have any adjectives in your toolbox to describe HCs between "awesome" or "terrible."

[Joe W. Namath]

7 minutes ago, jgb said:

While ascribing the one good year Vinny T played in 20 years in the NFL to mere luck rather than considering that it was Parcells that coaxed that out of him.

Vinny Testaverde threw for 33 tds and over 4,000 yards and made the pro bowl before he came to the Jets in 1996.

[jgb]

1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Vinny Testaverde threw for 33 tds and over 4,000 yards and made the pro bowl before he came to the Jets in 1996.

While winning 4 games. I was told that you can only evaluate a QB on team wins.

[THE BARON]

6 minutes ago, jgb said:

Look, I think Rex is way over-criticized around here and I would not have been upset if he was brought back after Gase and called for it several times. Paraphrasing, "Rex isn't perfect but neither are the Jets and maybe it's just time to admit that he's the best Woody can hope to get."

I only point out that your comparison is flawed on a mathematical level. That's all.

it aint flawed.  rex did more winning with the jets an more playoff wins.  and, he didnt quit on the Jets like Parcells and his water boy Bill Bellichick.

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, THE BARON said:

it aint flawed.  rex did more winning with the jets an more playoff wins.  and, he didnt quit on the Jets like Parcells and his water boy Bill Bellichick.

It is indeed flawed to compare two populations of unequal number with raw numbers. Parcells had a higher winning percentage. At least that statistic controls for the different number of seasons each spent here.

[Joe W. Namath]

3 minutes ago, jgb said:

While winning 4 games. I was told that you can only evaluate a QB on team wins.

You have been lied to.

[chirorob]

This is silly

BP took over a 1-15 team with Neil O'DONNELL as the starter.

He went to Denver and played an excellent Bronco team and lost.   Then his QB got hurt.

Rex did a fine job.  Don't forget, that 1ST season he doesn't make the playoffs if the Broncos don't pull their starters.   

[jgb]

4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

You have been lied to.

That's the concession I was really interested in.