32EBoozer Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Jared Goff Trade Details: Revisiting Winners and Losers From Lions-Rams Trade (msn.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share Posted August 25, 2023 Rams got their SB win but they are screwed for years to come. Lions have a nice young team who can compete soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chirorob Posted August 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2023 Rams got a SB. They win. Lions got tons of picks and Goff for a QB with 1 year left. They win 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted August 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2023 Sometimes both teams can win. Rams got their super bowl Goff has been good for the Lions plus the other pieces. If you win a super bowl because of a trade you never lose the trade. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal N of Provo Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 minute ago, chirorob said: Rams got a SB. They win. Lions got tons of picks and Goff for a QB with 1 year left. They win 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Sometimes both teams can win. Rams got their super bowl Goff has been good for the Lions plus the other pieces. If you win a super bowl because of a trade you never lose the trade. This. You can close the book on this one. Both won. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 I think the Jets handled the whole Aaron Rodgers trade very poorly and paid way more than we should have. If the Jets do well with him then the trade was good no matter the cost. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Problem for the Lions is that Goff probably won’t get them to the Super Bowl and Ben Johnson is gone after this season. They’ll be starting over again at QB soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 They play for Lombardi's in the NFL. The Rams won the trade until the Lions win a ring w/Goff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 29 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: They play for Lombardi's in the NFL. The Rams won the trade until the Lions win a ring w/Goff. Not unless you think the Lions would have won a SB without the trade, in which case I have to ask what you're smoking. That deal was win-win. That's the way it's supposed to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: Not unless you think the Lions would have won a SB without the trade, in which case I have to ask what you're smoking. That deal was win-win. That's the way it's supposed to be. If you're asking who won that sounds like you're asking who has the better results. No? Was the trade bad for the Lions? No. Was it better for the Rams? Without question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: If you're asking who won that sounds like you're asking who has the better results. No? Was the trade bad for the Lions? No. Was it better for the Rams? Without question. No. You're asking whether the team was better off for having made the trade than they would have been otherwise. It's possible for both teams to "win" a trade 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bleedin Green Posted August 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, chirorob said: Rams got a SB. They win. Lions got tons of picks and Goff for a QB with 1 year left. They win 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: No. You're asking whether the team was better off for having made the trade than they would have been otherwise. It's possible for both teams to "win" a trade Sounds like something the every kid gets a trophy generation came up with. In order for there to be a winner their must also be a loser. If you want to declare a "winner", the Rams won. If you're asking if it helped both teams, the answer is yes. But that's not the question. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: I think the Jets handled the whole Aaron Rodgers trade very poorly and paid way more than we should have. If the Jets do well with him then the trade was good no matter the cost. Would you have waited them out? what was plan b if someone else got him? they handled the rodgers part amazingly well. They made him feel loved. He took a massive pay cut of guaranteed money and has been a great locker room guy. no person in history has given up that much $ both absolute and percent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted August 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2023 Lions won by a landslide. No one respects the Rams bought super bowl. Now they will suck for years. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted August 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2023 The Rams accomplished what trades are supposed to help accomplish: win a Super Bowl. I pray to God that we get so fortunate with our trade for Aaron Rodgers. The Lions have positioned themselves well for the future. If they win a Super Bowl with the assets that they gathered from the trade, it will be a win-win. Until then, the Rams have won the trade. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Lions won by a landslide. No one respects the Rams bought super bowl. Now they will suck for years. If the Jets win the same way with Rodgers, how is it any different? Who doesn’t respect the trophy that you think the Rams “bought”? The Lions wasted Stafford like he was Mike Trout or Shohei Ohtani, and then unceremoniously shipped him off thinking that he didn’t have it in him to win a championship. He and the Rams proved that wrong. Furthermore, there have been a ton of “Dream Teams” and they usually go up in flames when built the way that the Rams did it. If we’re looking at it objectively, it’s an even bigger reason to praise or respect the front office and coaching staff for brining in the right guys. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, batman10023 said: Would you have waited them out? what was plan b if someone else got him? they handled the rodgers part amazingly well. They made him feel loved. He took a massive pay cut of guaranteed money and has been a great locker room guy. no person in history has given up that much $ both absolute and percent. The packers wanted desperately to get rid of Rodgers for a lot of reasons. There were zero other teams other than the jets making a serious play for Rodgers. As many on these forums had said they and no leverage and the jets had it all. The jets waited and waited until ALL other alternatives were gone. Aaron Rodgers comes out and says I am going to play for the Jets Joe Douglas comes out and says Rodgers will be a Jet All before any deal was made. A basic tenant of being a gm or a negotiator is to not state you have made a deal until the deal is done becasue the other side just smiles and ups the price or holds firm, which is what the packers did. The Packer GM should be knighted by Packer fans for getting a higher 1st rounder a second rounder (the one just ahead of the jets) and a first rounder next year (if all goes well for the Jets). out of a situation where his team wanted very very badly to get rid of the player due to the falling out and the cost of the contract for them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Lions won by a landslide. No one respects the Rams bought super bowl. Now they will suck for years. no one respects it? pretty sure everyone does. it's in the history books. the rams won superbowl 56. that's what happened. it's real life. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Lions won by a landslide. No one respects the Rams bought super bowl. Now they will suck for years. Why not? People respect the ones the Pat's cheated for. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: no one respects it? pretty sure everyone does. it's in the history books. the rams won superbowl 56. that's what happened. it's real life. Not in my book. I give them 0 credit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rhg1084 Posted August 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2023 Rams won a Super Bowl.. are we really debating who “won” the trade? Lol 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted August 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Not in my book. I give them 0 credit. Joe’s book: 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Beerfish said: Sometimes both teams can win. Rams got their super bowl Goff has been good for the Lions plus the other pieces. If you win a super bowl because of a trade you never lose the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 On 8/25/2023 at 4:52 PM, Beerfish said: The packers wanted desperately to get rid of Rodgers for a lot of reasons. There were zero other teams other than the jets making a serious play for Rodgers. As many on these forums had said they and no leverage and the jets had it all. The jets waited and waited until ALL other alternatives were gone. Aaron Rodgers comes out and says I am going to play for the Jets Joe Douglas comes out and says Rodgers will be a Jet All before any deal was made. A basic tenant of being a gm or a negotiator is to not state you have made a deal until the deal is done becasue the other side just smiles and ups the price or holds firm, which is what the packers did. The Packer GM should be knighted by Packer fans for getting a higher 1st rounder a second rounder (the one just ahead of the jets) and a first rounder next year (if all goes well for the Jets). out of a situation where his team wanted very very badly to get rid of the player due to the falling out and the cost of the contract for them. are you sure there were no other teams lurking in the background? this is your big assumption. Obviously if correct then the packers won the trade. especially given the salary cut he was willing to take? My guess is several teams would have given a 2nd rounder given the modest salary reduction. the reason AR came here was he wanted to feel loved. The Jets did that during the courtship and all thru training camp. How was it possible for the Jets to move up the timeline? Rodgers hadn't decided his plan. So your idea would be to force him to make a decision before he's ready? That's not a great way to start the relationship. i would have preferred to make the first conditional on making the playoffs. I think the Jets assume they will make it so it's a freebie. their draft pick mcdonald would have been there 2 spots earlier. not sure it cost them anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 No one cares what the rams bought 2 years ago. The team is a total joke now. Lost 41-0 last night. Hahahaha. Illegitimate super bowl and now a decade of misery. Enjoy ram fans!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 On 8/25/2023 at 1:27 PM, 32EBoozer said: Rams got their SB win but they are screwed for years to come. Lions have a nice young team who can compete soon. We were screwed for years and had no SB. Rams win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: No one cares what the rams bought 2 years ago. The tram is a total joke now. Lost 41-0 last night. Hahahaha. Illegitimate super bowl now a decade of misery. Enjoy ram fans!!!!! We had a decade of misery with no SB. I’ll take the Rams deal any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 34 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said: We had a decade of misery with no SB. I’ll take the Rams deal any day. I hope you enjoy living in the past. We are about to have a phenominal year. Enjoy it buddy. Success is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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