Popular Post Warfish Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 It occurs to me just how much of two things we're looking at going into Week 1 vs. Buffalo, neither of which has much to do with the team on the field or the course this season will ultimately take: 1. The Fan Power Keg: Regardless of how this game goes, big win, slim win, slim loss, big loss, the fan reaction is going to be literal fire. After all the waiting, the massive over-reaction by the fanbase (no, not YOU personally, gentle reader, perhaps, but the fanbase as a whole) is going to be huge. A big win, and this place will be filled with "We are the Clear Super Bowl Favs" type hype. A loss, almost any loss, and the doom and gloom amongst us will be spamming "Disaster!" and "MASSIVE OVERPAID FOR THIS??!!!" threads. There is almost no universe where the reaction is actually appropriate to a single week 1 outcome. We, as a fanbase, are pretty reactionary as it is, but all the waiting, the hype, the years of piss QB play and disappointment, whew.....stand back, it's gonna be a doozy. 2. The Media Hype/Hate: Listening to NFL Radio on Sirus this morning, didn't catch who/which host was yapping, but ALREADY they're describing week 1 vs. Buffalo as a "Must win" game for the NY Jets. Week 1, a must win. i.e. if we lose, the season is over, after...week 1. This is the level of baiting, hyping and outright trolling we're going to get all year long from the major sports media, and especially the horrid NY local area sports media, hungry to monetize/profit off the Rodgers era here selling papers and site clicks and Twitter views. Yes, we have a tough early schedule, but no, gtfoh that week f'ing ONE is a "must win" for the Jets playing a division rival that was a 13 win team last year. Setting up that kind of expectation is just ridiculous on it's face. These two factors, a passionate reactionary fanbase, starved for a QB for decades now, tweleve years and counting out of the postseason, that is a massive over-reaction waiting to happen on a normal day, combined with a sports media looking to taunt/troll that fanbase.......post-game Monday night is going to be insane. Absolutely insane. I'd say to my friends here, enjoy the game, but maybe hold off afterwards from proclaiming us the best/worst NFL team of the last 100 years, declaring us the Super Bowl winner (in Sept) or declaring that we're going to go down as the worst FA-built team in NFL history. It's one game. Just one. They'll be 16 more after this one. The season is a marathon, not a week 1 sprint. Keep calm, and carry on (rooting), and don't be so stupid as to let the media troll you or inflame your passions. The media is NOT your friend. And neither is over-reaction. Just. One. Game. Win or Lose. Now, if you excuse me...... 15 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Yeah, agree with everything you said. I'd really extend it beyond Week 1 -- I see that whole first six game slate before the BYE as being over hyped and over wrought relative to their actual importance. November and December is when you really need to hit your stride. Emerging from the early schedule afloat and without many injuries is the top priority, as great as it might be to be 6-0. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Dierking Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 So, business as usual. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I can see being (overly) stoked with a win in week 1. We need to step on the throat of this division, and the Bills are the main attraction here lately. If we win, I swear I won't use the word superbowl, but I will be quite giddy indeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 I just want to see us win a nationally televised game again before I die 1 2 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 So what you're saying is...Week 1 is a must win. I agree. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 The end of the season schedule for the Bills is a brutal one. With the only gimme games being the Pats and the Broncos. If they lose to the Jets to open the season, they might be on the outside looking in for the playoffs. WEEK 9 · Sun 11/05 · 8:20 PM EST AT Cincinnati Bengals WEEK 10 · Mon 11/13 · 8:15 PM EST Denver Broncos WEEK 11 · Sun 11/19 · 4:25 PM EST New York Jets WEEK 12 · Sun 11/26 · 4:25 PM EST AT Philadelphia Eagles WEEK 14 · Sun 12/10 · 4:25 PM EST AT Kansas City Chiefs WEEK 15 · Sun 12/17 · 4:25 PM EST Dallas Cowboys WEEK 16 · Sat 12/23 · 8:00 PM EST AT Los Angeles Chargers WEEK 17 · Sun 12/31 · 1:00 PM EST New England Patriots WEEK 18 · TBD AT Miami Dolphins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: So, business as usual. Yes, business as usual except that rightly or wrongly our expectations have been elevated this year to an enormous degree. The real problem may be that this team is significantly improved from last year but yet not quite a championship caliber team. Thus making everyone unhappy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 If you really want to get into it none of this matters it's all entertainment The Jets can win or lose on 9 11 and it doesn't change the price of tea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 One of 17 games and 1 of 6 in division. Yea it doesn't matter. If it keeps us out of the playoffs doesn't matter. If it keeps us from a home playoff game doesn't matter. One of the reasons the NFL is such a hyped up league is every game actually does matter. Confrence games matter more, division games are absolutley crucial. No the wheels won't be falling off if we lose. It matters a great deal if you think this is a potential SB team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Seeing thumb head go deep on Sauce twice with Hyatt and then punt block defense on the first play of the game, everyone is already sick of hearing about the Jets and they have a giant bullseye on their backs. I ain’t worried. There will be setbacks and adversity, but this team is different. They have a great culture and great leadership. They’ll be fine. More than fine actually 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, bitonti said: If you really want to get into it none of this matters it's all entertainment The Jets can win or lose on 9 11 and it doesn't change the price of tea 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 No one cares about Jets/Bills until the Monday of the game. Stop overblowing this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Either one or two of the first two points and it’s really who cares what either think. Why should anyone care if this board goes into its usual suicide watch after one game? Or if the media talks about game one as a must win? None of this will make or break the season after one game and the idea that the season will be affected or determined by the first of 17 games is ludicrous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, Biggs said: One of 17 games and 1 of 6 in division. Yea it doesn't matter. If it keeps us out of the playoffs doesn't matter. If it keeps us from a home playoff game doesn't matter. One of the reasons the NFL is such a hyped up league is every game actually does matter. Confrence games matter more, division games are absolutley crucial. No the wheels won't be falling off if we lose. It matters a great deal if you think this is a potential SB team. Opening at home against the reigning division champ, it’s a chance to make an early statement while also getting the all important division/conference win. Jets matched up well with them without Aaron Rodgers, they should match up better now. Having to wait until everyone else has already played is just going to add more pressure/hype to the game. The kind of pressure you want to see a wannabe contender respond positively to. It is a huge game. First six weeks are very tough, but the Bills game is a winnable one. The season won’t be over with a loss, but you’ve gotta take those divisional games at home wherever they show up in the schedule. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, Biggs said: One of 17 games and 1 of 6 in division. Yea it doesn't matter. If it keeps us out of the playoffs doesn't matter. If it keeps us from a home playoff game doesn't matter. One of the reasons the NFL is such a hyped up league is every game actually does matter. Confrence games matter more, division games are absolutley crucial. No the wheels won't be falling off if we lose. It matters a great deal if you think this is a potential SB team. No one is saying the game doesn’t matter (it’s a huge game), only that it’s not ALL that matters 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, Biggs said: One of 17 games and 1 of 6 in division. Yea it doesn't matter. If it keeps us out of the playoffs doesn't matter. If it keeps us from a home playoff game doesn't matter. One of the reasons the NFL is such a hyped up league is every game actually does matter. Confrence games matter more, division games are absolutley crucial. No the wheels won't be falling off if we lose. It matters a great deal if you think this is a potential SB team. I would never use the phrase "doesn't matter". If that's your takeaway from the OP, I think you may misunderstood my point. I would say week 1 will not determine if we're a Super Bowl team or a complete Disaster, and certainly not in a a definitive way that many fans will express themselves post-game. 16 more chances after this one. And there haven't been too many undefeated Super Bowl winners, have there? We're gonna lose games, even if we're great. Week 1 won't be what keeps us out of anything. How we play as a whole season is what gets us in or out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 I'm really surprised you think people are going to wait until the game is over to over react. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: I would never use the phrase "doesn't matter". If that's your takeaway from the OP, I think you may misunderstood my point. I would say week 1 will not determine if we're a Super Bowl team or a complete Disaster, and certainly not in a a definitive way that many fans will express themselves post-game. 16 more chances after this one. And there haven't been too many undefeated Super Bowl winners, have there? We're gonna lose games, even if we're great. Week 1 won't be what keeps us out of anything. How we play as a whole season is what gets us in or out. Healthy roster. Aaron Rodgers at QB. At home. A division game. This is a game a top coaching staff figures out how to win at home. You lose this game and it shows that the other team was able to come into your house and win a big game. Not saying you can't over come it but home division games are games that real SB contenders make statements. Fakes make excusses. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 afraid of getting hurt, i get it. i myself am constantly waiting for the Aaron Rodgers torn ACL tweet....the key is self awareness and being able to accept that we CAN have nice things. we have like 3 ALL Pro's on this team and a HOF QB, its ok to think we are good at football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, slimjasi said: No one is saying the game doesn’t matter (it’s a huge game), only that it’s not ALL that matters On that day until the next game for the NY Jets it's all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeJET Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Nothing different than any other week!! The over reactions never change win or lose with high expectations or zero expectations going in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, slats said: Jets matched up well with them without Aaron Rodgers, they should match up better now. last year's game in November the Jets' D-line combines for 5 sacks, including Huff in the 4th quarter, injures Josh Allen's throwing elbow. Allen throws 2 picks the Jets win 20-17 the game in December, Allen is somewhat more healthy, the D-line doesn't get home as much and the Bills win 20-12 it's awesome they have Rodgers and all but similar to last year it will come down to pass rush getting home. If Allen can be contained they have a chance. But there's a reason why they are home dogs fact is the Bills are a very good team, with a possible MVP at QB in his prime - they've been to the last 4 playoffs that's what a real contender looks like. Best we can hope for is pass rush takes Allen out of it - cause if he's on and running hard he will put up Madden numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, Warfish said: I would never use the phrase "doesn't matter". If that's your takeaway from the OP, I think you may misunderstood my point. I would say week 1 will not determine if we're a Super Bowl team or a complete Disaster, and certainly not in a a definitive way that many fans will express themselves post-game. 16 more chances after this one. And there haven't been too many undefeated Super Bowl winners, have there? We're gonna lose games, even if we're great. Week 1 won't be what keeps us out of anything. How we play as a whole season is what gets us in or out. We lose to the Bills at home after we balled with them last year, there's going to be a lot of warranted doubt. Sure we could recover but the doubt will be warranted until we prove it isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SackExchangeNYJ Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 SiriusXM NFL radio HATES the Jets. Full-on hate. Weis is a Belichick/Parcells guy, so that makes sense there. Miller, though? Not sure what the Jets did to him in a past life, but damn. Even Kirwin...he must have had a bad parting of ways. I don't know of any of the guys who are regularly on it who do not loathe the Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, bitonti said: last year's game in November the Jets' D-line combines for 5 sacks, including Huff in the 4th quarter, injures Josh Allen's throwing elbow. Allen throws 2 picks the Jets win 20-17 the game in December, Allen is somewhat more healthy, the D-line doesn't get home as much and the Bills win 20-12 it's awesome they have Rodgers and all but similar to last year it will come down to pass rush getting home. If Allen can be contained they have a chance. But there's a reason why they are home dogs fact is the Bills are a very good team, with a possible MVP at QB in his prime - they've been to the last 4 playoffs that's what a real contender looks like. Best we can hope for is pass rush takes Allen out of it - cause if he's on and running hard he will put up Madden numbers Yeah, you’re right, having an offense that should be capable of scoring more points shouldn’t really have an effect on this game or really the whole season. Today’s NFL is all about defense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Either one or two and it’s who cares. I care, obviously. Clearly so do a few others partaking in the thread. 20 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Why should anyone care if this board goes into its usual suicide watch after one game? Or if the media talks about game one as a must win? Some of us might want to help folks not be suicidal (proverbially, in this case) or the reverse (aggressively overhyping) after 1 game. In pure self-interest, it makes the quality of board pretty sh*t having to wade through 500 "We're DOOMED" threads, lol. As for the media, we talk about what the media says here all the time. This is no different. 20 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: None of this will make or break the season after one game and the idea that the season will be affected or determined by the first of 17 games is ludicrous Exactly my point. Thank you for agreeing with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darnold's Forehead Posted August 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2023 I got my necro post ready for The OFFICIAL Fire Joe Douglas thread. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, slats said: Yeah, you’re right, having an offense that should be capable of scoring more points shouldn’t really have an effect on this game or really the whole season. Today’s NFL is all about defense. read between the lines their offense is better than ours, their line is better than ours, and so is their QB if the Jets pass rush can bring down Allen to Rodgers' level the Jets have a chance the equation hasn't changed that much from last year - it's nice that Rodgers is here and all but the Jets aren't putting up 35 PPG all of a sudden The bills actually could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: I care, obviously. Clearly so do a few others partaking in the thread. Anyone who cares how the board reacts or how the media reacts doesn’t understand the game. Neither has any affect on the rest of the season. 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: Some of us might want to help folks not be suicidal (proverbially, in this case) or the reverse (aggressively overhyping) after 1 game. In pure self-interest, it makes the quality of board pretty sh*t having to wade through 500 "We're DOOMED" threads, lol. As for the media, we talk about what the media says here all the time. This is no different Same as above. I’ll be bummed for awhile if they lose game 1 but I don’t believe a game 1 loss ruins the season. 8 minutes ago, Warfish said: Exactly my point. Thank you for agreeing with me I agree with everything you said after your first 2 points about this board and the media. That’s who I was pointing to being “who cares” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 The team we beat with Zach Wilson? Yeah. We better beat them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 The 2020 Brady Bucs lost their first game by double digits to the Saints. It was an ugly, clunky performance. They were 7-5 entering December, kinda middling, but hit their stride and won eight straight games to win the Super Bowl. The 2012 Manning Broncos were 2-3 to start the season, and then went on to win eleven straight games en route to the number one seed. I’m not going to lose my sh*t if we start 3-3, or, gulp, 2-4. This early schedule is insane and it often takes time for veteran QBs on a new team to find their rhythm. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 34 minutes ago, bitonti said: read between the lines their offense is better than ours, their line is better than ours, and so is their QB if the Jets pass rush can bring down Allen to Rodgers' level the Jets have a chance the equation hasn't changed that much from last year - it's nice that Rodgers is here and all but the Jets aren't putting up 35 PPG all of a sudden The bills actually could They couldn’t do it against Zach. You have no idea that the Bills offense will be better at this point. Or that their OL will be better, they aren’t a great OL and have to deal with the Jets DL and secondary. They’ll have to deal with best D they’ll see all year. They’re still defending champs of the division and should be respected but they’re not unbeatable 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, Biggs said: On that day until the next game for the NY Jets it's all that matters. I get that it’s fun to play with words, but this has nothing to do with what is being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 The Road to a 20-0 SB winning season starts with a win in Week 1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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