When and why did Rodgers start hating the Packers organization

[Rhg1084]

Obviously it seemed as if the Jordan Love pick was the tipping point for him but what other factors went into play there? I know he publicly said he was upset when they got rid of Jordy Nelson and Cobb but both those guys were passed their primes at that point. It just seems as if the guy has a totally different disposition about himself here in NY. 

[DoubleDown]

From 2012 to 2023, the Packers have made 13 first round picks.  Only one of those picks was an offensive player.  QB Jordan Love.

The Packers have completely and utterly failed to build around their future HOF franchise quarterback.  It's baffling.

[PS17]

1 minute ago, DoubleDown said:

From 2012 to 2023, the Packers have made 13 first round picks.  Only one of those picks was an offensive player.  QB Jordan Love.

The Packers have completely and utterly failed to build around their future HOF franchise quarterback.  It's baffling.

On one hand, yeah, this is frustrating. On the other hand, the Packers found Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, and Aaron Jones later in the draft. It’s not like they completely neglected the offense. That said, passing on Tee Higgins for Jordan Love was the death knell. 

[Rhg1084]

2 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

From 2012 to 2023, the Packers have made 13 first round picks.  Only one of those picks was an offensive player.  QB Jordan Love.

The Packers have completely and utterly failed to build around their future HOF franchise quarterback.  It's baffling.

And his first year here we use a 1st rounder on a defensive guy too 🤣🤣🤣. I’m not hating tho I love WMC. 

[C Mart]

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[DoubleDown]

1 minute ago, Rhg1084 said:

And his first year here we use a 1st rounder on a defensive guy too 🤣🤣🤣. I’m not hating tho I love WMC. 

To be fair, 4 of the Jets 7 first round picks since 2020 have been on the offensive side of the ball, albeit one was on another QB.  At least JD has shown some sort of balance.

[Joe W. Namath]

Most relationships deteriorate over time.  Manning w/ Colts, Brady w/ Pats, Montana w/ Niners, Marino w/ Dolphins etc.  

The majority of marriages dont last.  I dont think its a specific point.  Its an over time thing.  You just get bored, sick of the person, organization etc.

Aaron is in the honeymoon phase right now.  Its a new piece of ass after 17 years of the same ass.

The good news it, by the time this gets stale, he will be ready for retirement.

[BigRy56]

He became lactose intolerant

[The Crusher]

zach's fault.

[Jet_Engine1]

Imagine being a single, 30 year old multi-millionaire. 

 

Now imagine that, but you're stuck in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

 

[KRL]

1 hour ago, DoubleDown said:

From 2012 to 2023, the Packers have made 13 first round picks.  Only one of those picks was an offensive player.  QB Jordan Love.

The Packers have completely and utterly failed to build around their future HOF franchise quarterback.  It's baffling.

This!!!

[jgb]

Dunno and duncare but glad he did!

[jgb]

1 hour ago, DoubleDown said:

From 2012 to 2023, the Packers have made 13 first round picks.  Only one of those picks was an offensive player.  QB Jordan Love.

The Packers have completely and utterly failed to build around their future HOF franchise quarterback.  It's baffling.

It’s a fair point but the Pats basically did the same with Brady, I think the thought process is that one of the benefits of having an elite QB is that you can over invest in the defense. 

[Kleckineau]

2 hours ago, DoubleDown said:

From 2012 to 2023, the Packers have made 13 first round picks.  Only one of those picks was an offensive player.  QB Jordan Love.

The Packers have completely and utterly failed to build around their future HOF franchise quarterback.  It's baffling.

The compensation these elite QBs get suck up a high % of the teams financial resources. This def causes a huge drag on the ability to put top talent around them. Unless of course they cheat the system like the NEP or take a pay cut for the benefit of the team.

[DoubleDown]

  

19 minutes ago, jgb said:

It’s a fair point but the Pats basically did the same with Brady, I think the thought process is that one of the benefits of having an elite QB is that you can over invest in the defense. 

I understand the thought process, but disagree with it.  Rodgers probably feels like he could have a couple more Superbowls on his resume and be cemented as a top 5 all time quarterback if only they had invested a bit more on the offensive side of the ball.

[DoubleDown]

2 minutes ago, Kleckineau said:

The compensation these elite QBs get suck up a high % of the teams financial resources. This def causes a huge drag on the ability to put top talent around them. Unless of course they cheat the system like the NEP or take a pay cut for the benefit of the team.

Then the best way to put elite offensive talent around him is by drafting first round talent on 5 year rookie contracts.

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

  

I understand the thought process, but disagree with it.  Rodgers probably feels like he could have a couple more Superbowls on his resume and be cemented as a top 5 all time quarterback if only they had invested a bit more on the offensive side of the ball.

He undoubtedly feels that way. Just pointing out that GB’s approach isn’t wildly incompetent on its face.

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, DoubleDown said:

Then the best way to put elite offensive talent around him is by drafting first round talent on 5 year rookie contracts.

That’s also very true. Although Rodgers has turned a bunch of those later-round guys into stars over the years, also.

[Biggs]

The Packers recognized that it was time to move on and he couldn't emotionally handle it.   The Jets offered him unconditional love and allowed him to surround himself with the guys that made him feel loved.    

[jetfan40yrs]

2 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

And his first year here we use a 1st rounder on a defensive guy too 🤣🤣🤣. I’m not hating tho I love WMC. 

Good thing we got him a good one in the first round last year! Garrett is the Top Gun plane on the aircraft carrier this, his second, year!

[varjet]

Aaron Rodgers is a very unique man.

He is a classic narcissist, and both a fierce competitor and a free spirit.  

The GB Packers are collectively owned, and their management style is much more "corporate" than most, if not all, NFL teams dominated by a strong-willed entrepreneurial leader.   The goal of the Packers is to be competitive every year, fill seats and avoid the down years.  That was not consistent with Rodgers' goal of winning more SBs and being the center of attention.

The Jets/Johnsons have basically given Rodgers the keys to the car and let him be the center of attention in the greatest city on Earth.  

No wonder he is happy now, and that he did not like the Packers. 

[Larz]

This is a guy that is estranged from his parents.  Getting on his bad side is apparently a life long problem lol 

[Jetsfan80]

3 hours ago, PS17 said:

On one hand, yeah, this is frustrating. On the other hand, the Packers found Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, and Aaron Jones later in the draft. It’s not like they completely neglected the offense. That said, passing on Tee Higgins for Jordan Love was the death knell. 

You just can’t afford to avoid using 1sts on offense for THAT long.  That’s how you end up with JAGsih guys like Robert Tonyan and Romeo Doubs combining for 134 targets like they did last year.  Our own Allen Lazard, who is OK but not much better than average, got 100 targets.  

[PS17]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

You just can’t afford to avoid using 1sts on offense for THAT long.  That’s how you end up with JAGsih guys like Robert Tonyan and Romeo Doubs combining for 134 targets like they did last year.  Our own Allen Lazard, who is OK but not much better than average, got 100 targets.  

I agree. It was malpractice. They did build a good roster and have a good offense (because of Rodgers) but in today’s NFL you cannot devote 90% of your high draft picks to defense. Even worse when you’re on the doorstep of winning a Super Bowl. 

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, PS17 said:

I agree. It was malpractice. They did build a good roster and have a good offense (because of Rodgers) but in today’s NFL you cannot devote 90% of your high draft picks to defense. Even worse when you’re on the doorstep of winning a Super Bowl. 

Particularly since FAs, particularly skill guys, are never really beating down the door to go to GB as far as I can tell (or at least the org never prioritized it).  The draft IS their free agency for those guys. 

[Bob Robbins]

Look at how Rodgers has behaved here with the NYJ and it’s clear he’s a “relationships” guy.

GB’s current FO did not cultivate a relationship or mutual respect with Rodgers, as evidenced by blindsiding him with the Love pick. Rodgers also mentioned how the FO had unceremoniously kicked past greats (Nelson, Cobb) to the curb without giving them any recognition or respect for all they had done as Packers.

This is just my interpretation, but I think it’s rooted in evidence. As another poster said, consider the fact that he is estranged from his family. He is clearly a man who follows his own principles closely, and it would seem there are certain “dealbreakers” that will result in him boxing you out.

[Joe W. Namath]

1 hour ago, varjet said:

Aaron Rodgers is a very unique man.

He is a classic narcissist, and both a fierce competitor and a free spirit.  

The GB Packers are collectively owned, and their management style is much more "corporate" than most, if not all, NFL teams dominated by a strong-willed entrepreneurial leader.   The goal of the Packers is to be competitive every year, fill seats and avoid the down years.  That was not consistent with Rodgers' goal of winning more SBs and being the center of attention.

The Jets/Johnsons have basically given Rodgers the keys to the car and let him be the center of attention in the greatest city on Earth.  

No wonder he is happy now, and that he did not like the Packers. 

Classic narcissist.  Hahahaha.  Love it!

[BroadwayJoe12]

17 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Most relationships deteriorate over time.  Manning w/ Colts, Brady w/ Pats, Montana w/ Niners, Marino w/ Dolphins etc.  

The majority of marriages dont last.  I dont think its a specific point.  Its an over time thing.  You just get bored, sick of the person, organization etc.

Aaron is in the honeymoon phase right now.  Its a new piece of ass after 17 years of the same ass.

The good news it, by the time this gets stale, he will be ready for retirement.

You know what they say, the only thing better than good p****,  is new p****. 

[rangerous]

Sounds to me like the whole Rodgers Green Bay thing is pretty funny. As I recall Rodgers pushed for McCarthy to be replaced and then apparently had some issues with milfy’s brother.  In reality all things come to an end.  Rodgers took over for Favre so it’s not surprising that now love is taking over from Rodgers.  And Green Bay got rewarded pretty good by trading him as opposed to keeping him on the bench or forcing him to retire or even outright releasing him.

[Jet2020]

23 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

And his first year here we use a 1st rounder on a defensive guy too 🤣🤣🤣. I’m not hating tho I love WMC. 

We used a first rounder on Aaron himself. Plus multiple elite first rounders will join Aaron when he takes the first snap and when he visits the White House in June 2024. 

[Bobby816]

23 hours ago, DoubleDown said:

From 2012 to 2023, the Packers have made 13 first round picks.  Only one of those picks was an offensive player.  QB Jordan Love.

The Packers have completely and utterly failed to build around their future HOF franchise quarterback.  It's baffling.

So true.

Hence why we have been in such bad shape. Besides drafting Darnold and Sanchez at QB... we went from 2020 (JDs 1st draft) all the way back to 2006 when we drafted DBrick and Mangold in Round 1, only drafting 1 offensive player and that player was at pick 30 in Dustin Keller in 2008.

 

So if you exclude drafting QBs and swinging and missing... we drafted 13 1st round draft picks in those years. Only the 1 was used on Keller. 

[The Crusher]

21 hours ago, jgb said:

He undoubtedly feels that way. Just pointing out that GB’s approach isn’t wildly incompetent on its face.

Not incompetent but incomplete. They forgot to steal the other teams line calls. Makes a huge difference. 

[docdhc]

23 hours ago, DoubleDown said:

From 2012 to 2023, the Packers have made 13 first round picks.  Only one of those picks was an offensive player.  QB Jordan Love.

The Packers have completely and utterly failed to build around their future HOF franchise quarterback.  It's baffling.

Also was drafted by Ted Thompson who left in 2017. Apparently he never had as good a relationship or trusted the new gm Gutekunst. 

[jgb]

1 hour ago, Bobby816 said:

So true.

Hence why we have been in such bad shape. Besides drafting Darnold and Sanchez at QB... we went from 2020 (JDs 1st draft) all the way back to 2006 when we drafted DBrick and Mangold in Round 1, only drafting 1 offensive player and that player was at pick 30 in Dustin Keller in 2008.

 

So if you exclude drafting QBs and swinging and missing... we drafted 13 1st round draft picks in those years. Only the 1 was used on Keller. 

Hence the difference a FQB can make

[pointman]

On 8/28/2023 at 1:40 PM, Jet_Engine1 said:

Imagine being a single, 30 year old multi-millionaire. 

 

Now imagine that, but you're stuck in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

 

That looks nice