Why Are the Jets Currently 2 Roster Spots over the Limit?

[Sarge4Tide]

Technically, the Jets roster is at the limit of 53 players.  However Punter Thomas Morstead was temporarily released to make room for 1 extra player and CB Brandin Echols is suspended for 1 game and not taking up a spot right now.  

So what's going on?  

Here are 7 possibilities I could think of, there are probably others..

1. There's a trade in the works and the Jets need a couple of days to complete the trade which will open up a roster spot
2. They're still waiting to hear about an injury before deciding to put someone on recallable IR or not (eg Lawson) so they didn't want to cut a player they like without knowing
3. Jets are waiting for everyone to fill up their rosters before cutting a player they like, making it less likely they will be claimed by another team
4. Jets are waiting to fill up their own practice squad and see what it looks like - the practice squad group might decide who the last 2 cuts are 
5. Jets want to take a look at the waiver wire to see what's out there / who they are awarded before making a final decision on the last 2 cuts
6. Morstead could very well sign to the Jets practice squad and be called up the 1st 3 weeks - thereby creating some roster flexibility to start the season
7. Joe Douglass has finally gone stark raving mad

[Jethead]

Great!

I think Warren goes on st IR and Morested comes back. Bawden stays on p-squad and called up as game plan dictates 

[jamesr]

When Echols returns, someone will get cut to make space (maybe Hall, maybe one of the depth WR).

Morstead will be re-signed once someone goes on recall IR (Carter Warren?).

Not sure on Bawden, I wondered if he may be a guy we elevate each week depending on the opponent (do we always need a FB, or will it be game plan dependent?). That said, having him in the 53 would still mean he could be active / inactive on game day, without the risk of losing him from the PS. Could be another recall IR situation with him too.

[The Crusher]

8. They thought they were going to need three spots   to sign Becton if he didn’t cut the weight? 

[slats]

Don’t think they’re carrying 7 WRs or 10 OL into the season. I imagine they’re trying to protect players they like and move them to the practice squad after teams have already made their waiver claims and FA signings. 
 
Looking at the Broncos with only four WRs on their roster, and most teams in the league looking for OL help. 

[T0mShane]

CJ Mosley has been invisible this offseason. If cut, he frees up $17 mil in space (less $5mm dead cap this year, $10mm next year). Something to think about with the Bosa and Davante rumors

[C Mart]

23 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Technically, the Jets roster is at the limit of 53 players.  However Punter Thomas Morstead was temporarily released to make room for 1 extra player and CB Brandin Echols is suspended for 1 game and not taking up a spot right now.  

So what's going on?  

Here are 7 possibilities I could think of, there are probably others..

1. There's a trade in the works and the Jets need a couple of days to complete the trade which will open up a roster spot
2. They're still waiting to hear about an injury before deciding to put someone on recallable IR or not (eg Lawson) so they didn't want to cut a player they like without knowing
3. Jets are waiting for everyone to fill up their rosters before cutting a player they like, making it less likely they will be claimed by another team
4. Jets are waiting to fill up their own practice squad and see what it looks like - the practice squad group might decide who the last 2 cuts are 
5. Jets want to take a look at the waiver wire to see what's out there / who they are awarded before making a final decision on the last 2 cuts
6. Morstead could very well sign to the Jets practice squad and be called up the 1st 3 weeks - thereby creating some roster flexibility to start the season
7. Joe Douglass has finally gone stark raving mad

Warren & Yeboah probably go on IR today...

Morstead will be resigned. 

Bawden could be a week to week thing..

Depending on other moves ie waiver claims or trades - CB B.Hall could be waived as could a WR...

[#27TheDominator]

5 minutes ago, jamesr said:

When Echols returns, someone will get cut to make space (maybe Hall, maybe one of the depth WR).

Morstead will be re-signed once someone goes on recall IR (Carter Warren?).

Not sure on Bawden, I wondered if he may be a guy we elevate each week depending on the opponent (do we always need a FB, or will it be game plan dependent?). That said, having him in the 53 would still mean he could be active / inactive on game day, without the risk of losing him from the PS. Could be another recall IR situation with him too.

Good point on the cut when Echols comes back.  People are harping on Irv Charles making it and whether he will see the field with Davis gone.  I think Irv Charles may be a gunner pending Echols return.  He seems pretty good on specials to me.  7 is a ton of receivers, but if one is all ST it is kind of like carrying Hardee at CB.

[jetsrule128]

1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said:

Good point on the cut when Echols comes back.  People are harping on Irv Charles making it and whether he will see the field with Davis gone.  I think Irv Charles may be a gunner pending Echols return.  He seems pretty good on specials to me.  7 is a ton of receivers, but if one is all ST it is kind of like carrying Hardee at CB.

But 7 WR won’t be active on game day 

 

people are forgetting about inactives 

[The Crusher]

14 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

CJ Mosley has been invisible this offseason. If cut, he frees up $17 mil in space (less $5mm dead cap this year, $10mm next year). Something to think about with the Bosa and Davante rumors

I’m not a contract guy but holy hell the contract he was given! If nothing else that crazy crap has stopped, thank you Joe Douglas thank you. 

[#27TheDominator]

11 minutes ago, jetsrule128 said:

But 7 WR won’t be active on game day 

 

people are forgetting about inactives 

Right.  Charles may be the 7th receiver, but active on game day week 1 to play specials while Gipson/Brownlee are inactive.

[batman10023]

24 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

CJ Mosley has been invisible this offseason. If cut, he frees up $17 mil in space (less $5mm dead cap this year, $10mm next year). Something to think about with the Bosa and Davante rumors

how he hasn't been restructured is surprising to me.  i don't think he gets half that in the open market.

[jamesr]

8 minutes ago, jetsrule128 said:

But 7 WR won’t be active on game day 

 

people are forgetting about inactives 

I was thinking about this recently - what positions will have one or more inactives on game day?

RB - doubt we dress 4 plus a FB (assuming we re-sign Bawden). Even without a FB, do we need 4 actives? I'd guess Izzy may be rested a week or two if his injury is lingering, let him get to full health. 

WR - no way we suit up 7 guys, even 6 would be a surprise

TE - if we keep 4 then one will possibly sit, but if Yeboah goes on IR then we'll dress all 3

OL - assuming Warren to IR, we'd have 9, likely one inactive on game day (Schweitzer / Tippman would be my guess)

DL - not sure here, we know how much the rotation is used on DL. Dressing 10 may be a lot, but who do you sit?

LB - possibly one of Barnes / Surrat unless needed on ST?

CB - doubt it as we only have 4 and you need 3 "starters" ... maybe if we keep Hall after Echols returns he'd be inactive some weeks?

S - can't see any definite inactives here when you take ST into account

So ... 6 inactives, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 OL, 1 LB, maybe 1 DL?

[C Mart]

40 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

CJ Mosley has been invisible this offseason. If cut, he frees up $17 mil in space (less $5mm dead cap this year, $10mm next year). Something to think about with the Bosa and Davante rumors

Sorry - amazing this is still being brought up........And "invisible" to boot...smh

[jbt]

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, slats said:

Don’t think they’re carrying 7 WRs or 10 OL into the season. I imagine they’re trying to protect players they like and move them to the practice squad after teams have already made their waiver claims and FA signings. 
 
Looking at the Broncos with only four WRs on their roster, and most teams in the league looking for OL help. 

Spot on.  Combine with pending decisions on IR for a couple guys, and there you have it.

Happily it seems Morestead and likely the FB as well are onboard with it, not trying to exploit it to get elsewhere.

57 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

CJ Mosley has been invisible this offseason. If cut, he frees up $17 mil in space (less $5mm dead cap this year, $10mm next year). Something to think about with the Bosa and Davante rumors

Mosely is the leader, heart and soul of the Saleh Defense.  He's not going anywhere in 2023.

[Bobby816]

1, Welcome to the squad Mike Evans  

[Kleckineau]

1 hour ago, The Crusher said:

8. They thought they were going to need three spots   to sign Becton if he didn’t cut the weight? 

You you you you fat shamer you.

[The Crusher]

2 hours ago, Kleckineau said:

You you you you fat shamer you.

LOL. Guilty as charged sir!

[Sperm Edwards]

4 hours ago, T0mShane said:

CJ Mosley has been invisible this offseason. If cut, he frees up $17 mil in space (less $5mm dead cap this year, $10mm next year). Something to think about with the Bosa and Davante rumors

It's just $17MM in space, period. Easy way to think of it, for non-guaranteed salaries/bonuses, is if they don't pay him another $17MM, it clears $17MM. The dead cap doesn't count twice; those are amounts that hit whether he's here or not, since it's $ he's been paid that hasn't come off the cap yet. It's not a penalty. The $4.5MM dead cap there'd be this year was previously on top of $17MM, so it's not $17MM less $4.5MM for only a $12.5MM savings; it's just $17MM in savings.

He's not getting cut anyway, and they'd have to eat half that salary for him to have any trade value. I'd be pretty shocked if he isn't here.

Even things accelerating isn't as big of a deal as it seems. They've got so much space the year after that they'd just backload someone else instead to use some space from '25 in '24. GMs have become far more comfortable doing this on win-now teams; Idzik tried saving his ammo for a future date and instead that spending spree passed on to Maccagnan when Idzik was canned.

The only time to really keep the powder dry is if (A) you're in a quasi-tank season: not really tanking per se, but not really trying to field a contender this year, like a rookie QB drafted by a team that earned the #1 pick; (B) you think it's not needed, and you're one of those few GMs who's got "I am unbannable" type job security. 

[C Mart]

7 hours ago, C Mart said:

Warren & Yeboah probably go on IR today...

Morstead will be resigned. 

Bawden could be a week to week thing..

Depending on other moves ie waiver claims or trades - CB B.Hall could be waived as could a WR...

Bam (not Knight)!

Rich Cimini @RichCimini

#Jets roster moves: Re-signed: P Thomas Morstead and FB Nick Bawden.

Placed on IR: OT Carter Warren and TE Kenny Yeboah. Both out 4 games.

[hawk]

9 hours ago, T0mShane said:

CJ Mosley has been invisible this offseason. If cut, he frees up $17 mil in space (less $5mm dead cap this year, $10mm next year). Something to think about with the Bosa and Davante rumors

Carrying $17 million is absurd.  $17 Million Next.

Hell, I'd rather restructure with a $16 million signing bonus spread out the $17 million (plus a few million) next over 2 more years than carry $17 million this year.  Perhaps make it a 4 year $48 Million contract.  It will lower this year to around $10 million saving $11 Million cap hit.

[BCJet]

I believe there is an option to put Lawson on the short term IR right?  The guy hasnt practiced in weeks and I really dont know what they did with his spot unless he got hurt day 1.  If he cant practice by now, why not give him the 4 weeks to get better since we have such depth at DE?

[Smashmouth]

12 hours ago, #27TheDominator said:

Good point on the cut when Echols comes back.  People are harping on Irv Charles making it and whether he will see the field with Davis gone.  I think Irv Charles may be a gunner pending Echols return.  He seems pretty good on specials to me.  7 is a ton of receivers, but if one is all ST it is kind of like carrying Hardee at CB.

The position group with the best ST'ers will get the extra body and that varies from year to year maybe this year its WR . That being said I still like Charles size in the red zone whether it be for decoy or isolated vs a small corner. Having a really good Qb can help these guys emerge and we have not had that for many years here

[MykePM]

11 minutes ago, BCJet said:

I believe there is an option to put Lawson on the short term IR right?  The guy hasnt practiced in weeks and I really dont know what they did with his spot unless he got hurt day 1.  If he cant practice by now, why not give him the 4 weeks to get better since we have such depth at DE?

He reportedly practiced yesterday, according to Saleh.