Popular Post mrcoops Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 Looks like JD made him an offer he couldn't refuse - likely roster security, in exchange for a smaller salary: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 He wasn't good in the pre-season, so he had no leverage 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrcoops Posted August 31, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, KRL said: He wasn't good in the pre-season, so he had no leverage If Moreland hadn't got hurt, I don't think Hall would be on the team right now. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slats Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 I would also prefer to make $1M over not making $2.8M. 12 1 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, mrcoops said: Looks like JD made him an offer he couldn't refuse - likely roster security, in exchange for a smaller salary: Gunner Olszewski sounds like a character from "Band of Brothers". 3 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Duckman Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 What in the hell happened to this guy since his rookie year? I thought he played well and would be solid contributor at a key position for years to come. He's looked pretty bad ever since. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origen Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Warfish said: Gunner Olszewski sounds like a character from "Band of Brothers". Side character in Wolfenstein 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: Gunner Olszewski sounds like a character from "Band of Brothers". One of the background members of the platoon who takes a bullet to save Bill Guarnere during the Battle of the Bulge. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win4ever Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 This guy is such an enigma because a lot of the catches on him, are with him right around the ball (or he's getting called for DPI). Always feel like he'd be much better in coverage if he could raise his arms or just turn around more. Feel like he's a bigger Kyle Wilson at this point. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, mrcoops said: If Moreland hadn't got hurt, I don't think Hall would be on the team right now. That's fair to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I honestly forgot Bryce Hall existed 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, win4ever said: This guy is such an enigma because a lot of the catches on him, are with him right around the ball (or he's getting called for DPI). Always feel like he'd be much better in coverage if he could raise his arms or just turn around more. Feel like he's a bigger Kyle Wilson at this point. Yeah I remember thinking he was good as a rookie then QBs figured out they could just throw to his guy even if they looked covered 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Yo that's a massive haircut Over 60% Maybe he was never that good to begin with, but he also doesn't appear be playing with any confidence since his rookie year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 42 minutes ago, Duckman said: What in the hell happened to this guy since his rookie year? I thought he played well and would be solid contributor at a key position for years to come. He's looked pretty bad ever since. I guess he's a survivor! Not a competitor! Certainly not a commander. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 He didn't necessarily take a pay cut, he restructured his deal to have less of a cap hit in 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: He didn't necessarily take a pay cut, he restructured his deal to have less of a cap hit in 2023 Yeah, but he was only on the books for $2.8M this year. Is cutting $1.5M going to do that much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said: He didn't necessarily take a pay cut, he restructured his deal to have less of a cap hit in 2023 He is in the final year of his deal. Unless he was extended, which is doubtful, it looks like a straight pay cut. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Yo that's a massive haircut Over 60% Maybe he was never that good to begin with, but he also doesn't appear be playing with any confidence since his rookie year Ture, but making a million dollars for a year to be not good at something? I'm jelly! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Even if his pay cut is commensurate with his value it always sucks to see guys not making big coin (by pro sports standards) taking cuts while guys making huge money are not earning it. Remember hard knocks? Tanny calling Kellen Clemens into his office and telling him he as getting a pay cut or he was out the door? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Alka said: Yeah, but he was only on the books for $2.8M this year. Is cutting $1.5M going to do that much? I'm expecting Ashtyn Davis to get a similar cut. Together that'd be $2.2MM instead of $5.5MM = $3.3MM. Where it matters is it makes them more palatable to cut midseason, and/or more attractive to trade now or at any point up to Halloween. Even if both are kept all season long, together with the $14MM pay cut CJM should have coming to him, it all adds up. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 Clearing cap space, you say? 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Duckman said: What in the hell happened to this guy since his rookie year? I thought he played well and would be solid contributor at a key position for years to come. He's looked pretty bad ever since. Overrated by jets fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Duckman said: What in the hell happened to this guy since his rookie year? I thought he played well and would be solid contributor at a key position for years to come. He's looked pretty bad ever since. I think the same thing. Blewett on X-factor things he is still really good but made a couple high visibility mistakes people cant get past. His rookie year he looked like a steal that would develop into a well above average corner but that does not seem to have happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: I'm expecting Ashtyn Davis to get a similar cut. Together that'd be $2.2MM instead of $5.5MM = $3.3MM. Where it matters is it makes them more palatable to cut midseason, and/or more attractive to trade now or at any point up to Halloween. Even if both are kept all season long, together with the $14MM pay cut CJM should have coming to him, it all adds up. I was trying to find the quote earlier, but didn’t Mosley say they approached him about a restructure earlier in the summer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Duckman said: What in the hell happened to this guy since his rookie year? I thought he played well and would be solid contributor at a key position for years to come. He's looked pretty bad ever since. 30 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Yeah I remember thinking he was good as a rookie then QBs figured out they could just throw to his guy even if they looked covered 29 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Yo that's a massive haircut Over 60% Maybe he was never that good to begin with, but he also doesn't appear be playing with any confidence since his rookie year So you guys are saying…..he was only good under Gase? CC: @T0mShane 1 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, mrcoops said: He is in the final year of his deal. Unless he was extended, which is doubtful, it looks like a straight pay cut. You can do a standard restructure that takes some of the base pay into bonuses that don't count or count less against the cap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Even if his pay cut is commensurate with his value it always sucks to see guys not making big coin (by pro sports standards) taking cuts while guys making huge money are not earning it. Remember hard knocks? Tanny calling Kellen Clemens into his office and telling him he as getting a pay cut or he was out the door? Yeah I remember that one well. It was hard to watch. Really cringy to put that on camera, regardless of how common the occurrence is. Of course they do always show someone getting cut (no less sad for those who didn't make it, but it's not the same at all since it's a given that all but 53 players are getting cut for every team every year). The way to look at it isn't a pay cut, but rather a guarantee instead of getting cut, which is what would've happened. If cut, he's not getting a full season's $ because it's just as unlikely teams hold off on signing him until week 1's games are over, after which he (and his paycheck) would be week to week at the team's pleasure. No one was going to fully guarantee Hall at nearly $3MM. Certainly not the Jets, just for Hall to be the team's 5th corner from week 2 onward, after Echols comes off suspension. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I was trying to find the quote earlier, but didn’t Mosley say they approached him about a restructure earlier in the summer? Good, then it shouldn't be such a shock to him when he gets reapproached tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: So you guys are saying…..he was only good under Gase? CC: @T0mShane Adam Gase is well known in league circles as a DB guru. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: I'm expecting Ashtyn Davis to get a similar cut. Together that'd be $2.2MM instead of $5.5MM = $3.3MM. Where it matters is it makes them more palatable to cut midseason, and/or more attractive to trade now or at any point up to Halloween. Even if both are kept all season long, together with the $14MM pay cut CJM should have coming to him, it all adds up. Being 25+ mil under the cap is good and I hope they aren't doing this to float till next season... But it seems like they are trying to make a big move 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Wait a sec….not that I’m complaining but how are teams able to get a pay cut out of the final year on a rookie deal? The CBA allows for this? Or was this not part of his rookie deal somehow? @Sperm Edwards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Wait a sec….not that I’m complaining but how are teams able to get a pay cut out of the final year on a rookie deal? The CBA allows for this? Or was this not part of his rookie deal somehow? @Sperm Edwards Rookie contracts can get adjusted after 3 seasons. Just like a player can have his 4th season get a pay raise, he can also get a pay cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Rookie contracts can get adjusted after 3 seasons. Just like a player can have his 4th season get a pay raise, he can also get a pay cut. Can we make a certain QB take a paycut in year 4 of his rookie deal next offseason then? Asking for a friend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Can we make a certain QB take a paycut in year 4 of his rookie deal next offseason then? Asking for a friend. Good question Perhaps entice the chap with some Fortnite V-Bucks instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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