Popular Post genot Posted September 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2023 If this staff doesn't open up the playback, because they don't trust Wilson, then they have a helluva lot of nerve sending him out there. Open up the playback for him and let the chips fall whey're they may. Or get another QB. This week. Thank you. 17 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, genot said: If this staff doesn't open up the playback, because they don't trust Wilson, then they have a helkyva lot of nerve sending him out there. Open up the playback for him and let the chips fall whey're they may. Or get another QB. This week. Thank you. Agree 100% but also get why they were playing it close to the vest last night given the way the game was going. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 Even last night, my felling was to take the rattle out of his mouth. If Wilson feels the coaches don't trust him, then we might as well throw in the towel. With Hall, Wilson, and Cook, and this defense, that would be almost criminal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, genot said: If this staff doesn't open up the playback, because they don't trust Wilson, then they have a helluva lot of nerve sending him out there. Open up the playback for him and let the chips fall whey're they may. Or get another QB. This week. Thank you. This was the agreed upon setup. Wilson gets to stay on the roster, organization pumps up his “progress” and secretly pray to god he doesn’t have to see the field. Look at how they handled him in preseason. They were so scared he’d sh*t himself they ran run-run-screen in games where W/L didn’t matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Matt39 said: This was the agreed upon setup. Wilson gets to stay on the roster, organization pumps up his “progress” and secretly pray to god he doesn’t have to see the field. Look at how they handled him in preseason. They were so scared he’d sh*t himself they ran run-run-screen in games where W/L didn’t matter. They need to be called out on that. Having a backup QB, you can win with, is rather important. Closing your eyes and praying for the best with your starter, is totally irresponsible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I would run the ball 100 times vs Dallas and hope for a Breece Hall explosive, a bunch of FGs, a defensive TD, etc. Better chance of winning that way than trusting ZW Zach Wilson dropping back with a “sling it around” mentality against that defense is a recipe for disaster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Wilson has given ZERO indication that he can be trusted to lead a team week after week. Bad QB's don't magically become good in the NFL. It just doesn't happen any more. Wilson is BAD, and that might be putting it mildly. If the Jets are serious about being a playoff team this season, Wilson cannot be the QB. JD should be on the phone with every FA QB and GM this morning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Peyton mocking ZW 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetstream23 Posted September 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, genot said: If this staff doesn't open up the playback, because they don't trust Wilson, then they have a helluva lot of nerve sending him out there. Open up the playback for him and let the chips fall whey're they may. Or get another QB. This week. Thank you. Agreed. I think last night was so unexpected and the fact that Zach has been getting second team reps all Camp was contributing to the script last night, as was the low-scoring, field position nature of the game. He only threw 21 passes. The priority all Camp has been to get Rodgers integrated, get the offense taught to the OL, WRs, TEs, RBs, to understand how Rodgers and Hackett run things and....oh, by the way, try to bring Zach along and let him listen and watch what you're doing, Aaron. That all changes starting now. The focus goes 100% to ZW, he gets the first team reps, he gets the gameplan tailored to him, he gets more than just a partial mindshare of Hackett. ZW was drafted because of his arm (as good as Rodgers, yeah....I said that) and his legs (better than Rodgers, not debatable). It's what is between the ears, the decision-making, and the experience in the new system that has to become the focus. The Jets are good enough to try to win with Defense, rushing the football, and good-enough QB play with shots to guys like Wilson and Lazard to keep the defense honest.. If the Jets are winning games 23-10 in the 4th Quarter of games then you stick with it. If it's not working then you open things up and ask for the Zach Wilson who played hero ball vs. Pittsburgh to engineer another comeback win. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trotter Posted September 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Peyton mocking ZW F him and his buddy gase 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: I would run the ball 100 times vs Dallas and hope for a Breece Hall explosive, a bunch of FGs, a defensive TD, etc. Better chance of winning that way than trusting ZW Zach Wilson dropping back with a “sling it around” mentality against that defense is a recipe for disaster 1985 strategy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 What I want to see from Wilson is just him taking what the defense gives him. Use his legs don’t just run backwards. Make the layup throws, take and make timely deep shots. If he can at least complete 60% of his throws and lean into that run game, and the defense can consistently force turnovers and short fields we can get by with Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 months ago Zach is who he is. Gonna have to let him throw it. Zach Wilson's Best Plays From 324-Yard Game | Week 15 vs. Detroit | New York Jets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FactsOnly Posted September 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Peyton mocking ZW He turned a sack into a throwaway clown take 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: 9 months ago Zach is who he is. Gonna have to let him throw it. Zach Wilson's Best Plays From 324-Yard Game | Week 15 vs. Detroit | New York Jets 💯 goofs will ignore this tape though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, FactsOnly said: 💯 Jets leading rusher that day? Bam Knight - 23 yards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, FactsOnly said: He turned a sack into a throwaway clown take yes, where was Wilson supposed to run? into the 3 defenders? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 ZW has shown us NOTHING 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, FactsOnly said: He turned a sack into a throwaway clown take He’s running backwards like it’s Tecmo Bowl. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Peyton mocking ZW Honestly, regardless of what you think of ZW, the Mannings come accross as a bunch of ******* assholes here. Mocking a backup QB coming in off the bench against a really good defense? Did they mock Josh Allen and his 4 turnovers? **** them! I know ZW is everyone heres favorite wooping boy, but what a couple of a$$hole deuche bags 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: Honestly, regardless of what you think of ZW, the Mannings come accross as a bunch of ******* assholes here. Mocking a backup QB coming in off the bench against a really good defense? Did they mock Josh Allen and his 4 turnovers? **** them! I know ZW is everyone heres favorite wooping boy, but what a couple of a$$hole deuche bags They were pretty rough on Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashlite80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, genot said: If this staff doesn't open up the playback, because they don't trust Wilson, then they have a helluva lot of nerve sending him out there. Open up the playback for him and let the chips fall whey're they may. Or get another QB. This week. Thank you. Zach had no reps with the first team. That is doubly important because he wasn't prepared for the specific game-plan for the Bills. They were, also, having offensive line problems. Being at the game, I could see the Bills were winning virtually every matchup. They were focused on mistake free play. That was a key to the win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAB Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said: Honestly, regardless of what you think of ZW, the Mannings come accross as a bunch of ******* assholes here. Mocking a backup QB coming in off the bench against a really good defense? Did they mock Josh Allen and his 4 turnovers? **** them! I know ZW is everyone heres favorite wooping boy, but what a couple of a$$hole deuche bags I watched the manning cast. At the end of the game they said Zach did a good job. But, they do like to crack jokes about everyone on the field, including themselves. You just have to take everything they say with a grain of salt. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rldev Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, genot said: If this staff doesn't open up the playback, because they don't trust Wilson, then they have a helluva lot of nerve sending him out there. Open up the playback for him and let the chips fall whey're they may. Or get another QB. This week. Thank you. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, genot said: If this staff doesn't open up the playback, because they don't trust Wilson, then they have a helluva lot of nerve sending him out there. Open up the playback for him and let the chips fall whey're they may. Or get another QB. This week. Thank you. You are 100% right. We know teams are going to stack the box and dare Wilson to throw. He is going to have to throw the ball to loosen up the defense enough for the Jets to run effectively. If he can’t do it, then get somebody you believe can … like a Winston. This isn’t rocket science. 1. Roll him out of the pocket early in the game 2. Play action on some first and second downs 3. Screen game against the blitz 4. Maybe a couple trick plays 5. Flood the middle zone with tight ends 6. Occasional deep ball 7. Avoid run run pass, rinse repeat 8. Maybe go up tempo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Playing a young QB who is a turnover machine makes no sense for this team. They are going to want a safe veteran game manager and try to win games in defense. Mentally prepare yourself for Matt Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Flashlite80 said: Zach had no reps with the first team. That is doubly important because he wasn't prepared for the specific game-plan for the Bills. They were, also, having offensive line problems. Being at the game, I could see the Bills were winning virtually every matchup. They were focused on mistake free play. That was a key to the win. If the Bills were winning virtually every matchup, that’s extremely concerning. Their DLine is middle of the road without Miller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) I agree - training wheels off .. let him throw a couple picks .. but by god .. let him play football. I honestly think it needs to be 3 step drops 1 read options next week. Dallas' D will crumble Zach into small little pieces behind that crap OL. Run blocking ... not bad .. pass protection ... nosferatu scary. Edited September 12, 2023 by Dunnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashlite80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Peyton mocking ZW The Mannings should stick to what they know and commenting is not what they know. Not understanding the approach when a backup QB faces an elite competitor is ignorant. As far as the play, Peyton never faced a rush like that in his life. By the time Zach faded back, there were three guys in his face. The Mannings would take the sack- absolutely every time. Zach rolled out, avoided the rush and threw the ball away. If Zach had Peyton's O-line, he could send out for coffee while Garrett Wilson cam all the way across the field to present a wide open target. If Peyton had Zach's o-line, he would have been broken in half, Ala Mike White, several times. They guys sound like my old man, barking at the TV. He only understands results. The Mannngs should know better. Jerks!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashlite80 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: You are 100% right. We know teams are going to stack the box and dare Wilson to throw. He is going to have to throw the ball to loosen up the defense enough for the Jets to run effectively. If he can’t do it, then get somebody you believe can … like a Winston. This isn’t rocket science. 1. Roll him out of the pocket early in the game 2. Play action on some first and second downs 3. Screen game against the blitz 4. Maybe a couple trick plays 5. Flood the middle zone with tight ends 6. Occasional deep ball 7. Avoid run run pass, rinse repeat 8. Maybe go up tempo Agree, this is a solid plan, but pounding the running game needs to be added. It slows the rush, tires the defense in the 4th quarter and drops the safety into the box. A crossing pattern to Garrett Wilson should be wide open with lots of green. With 8-9 in the box, there are too many to fool very often with a screen. If they stack the box, hit the 1 on 1 with Garrett. If the safety and or LB's drop in zones, pound the line. If a LB or safety blitzes, quick hit to vacant zone. They need to run the ball 40 times a game and use the passing game to keep them honest and maybe hit a big play. The running game will disguise the crappy pass protection and take the legs out of the pass rushers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, genot said: If this staff doesn't open up the playback, because they don't trust Wilson, then they have a helluva lot of nerve sending him out there. Open up the playback for him and let the chips fall whey're they may. Or get another QB. This week. Thank you. Perfection. Its time. Let him sink or swim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet25 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Hopefully AR will be on the sidelines with ZW next week in Dallas. He'll help ZW through the game for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flea Flicking Frank Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 37 minutes ago, RAB said: I watched the manning cast. At the end of the game they said Zach did a good job. But, they do like to crack jokes about everyone on the field, including themselves. You just have to take everything they say with a grain of salt. I watch them too, and its one thing to crack jokes about yourself, or a HOF player, its another thing to pick on a backup QB who is down and out, it was a dick head move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet25 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Luckily next week is against an NFC team so if we have to deal with a nightmare loss, it won't be bad. With another trade or signed QB this week learning the playbook before the Patriots matchup if ZW struggles Rooting for ZW but there will still be pains tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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