AFJF Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxIrbeOh5gfxj4OCFll-p_4KfAcAhLl-kK?si=R5nRwefFFwcPkvrN Link above is a 1 minute clip from the convo. Full interview below with Parsons vs Jets starting at the 12:05 mark for a few minutes 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Yep. I think brown would have trouble blocking any speed rusher if left out on an island. Pat needs to ditch the wife beater. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I had no idea JJ was a minority owner of Burnley FC. That's pretty cool. As far as the clip though, is that sack on AVT? Hard to expect any guard to pick that up, especially your RG when Parsons is starting against the LT, but it seemed like Becton had things handled pretty well yet he decided to give him support instead of holding his spot. Is that what an OL is supposed to do in a situation like that if he has no one to block? Help one of the guys next to him? Or should he just keep hold of that spot in the event someone comes through like Parsons did? Either way that was the one sack where I was like "OK well wtf are you gonna do about that? How do you even block that?". Can't get too down on any of those guys for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted September 21 Popular Post Share Posted September 21 Smart coaches take your best player and move him around and make the very best use of their best players. Dumb coaches keep your all pro CB on one side only and do not put him against the other teams wr threat 'because we don;t roll that way' Or keep your pro bowl DT in one spot all game so he can get doubled easily. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 19 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Smart coaches take your best player and move him around and make the very best use of their best players. Dumb coaches keep your all pro CB on one side only and do not put him against the other teams wr threat 'because we don;t roll that way' Or keep your pro bowl DT in one spot all game so h can get doubled easily. Word...I'd love to see Q liined up at the wide 9 and come blasting in, trampling the tackle before trampling the QB! at least for one play! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 been saying this since during the game - the coaches blew this but according to some on here you're not allowed to blame the coaches at all. that first play they show here looks like it was supposed to be a screen but Dallas was in man and covered it perfectly. Zach probably should have threw it at his feet immediately. But you're kind of giving it away aren't you? You have the RB on the opposite side of Parsons and no one else out there to help - HMMM - I wonder why? Better design would have been to run the screen off the RB chipping #11 but that's obviously hindsight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jetsfan4life72 Posted September 21 Popular Post Share Posted September 21 46 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Smart coaches take your best player and move him around and make the very best use of their best players. Dumb coaches keep your all pro CB on one side only and do not put him against the other teams wr threat 'because we don;t roll that way' Or keep your pro bowl DT in one spot all game so he can get doubled easily. I’ll never agree with coaches who have a fixed mindset and it’s my way or the highway. The best coaches play to their players strengths, put them in a position to succeed and attack the opponents’ weaknesses. BB has been doing this for 20-30 years. And for Hackett to have such a difficult system to grasp that they can’t bring someone in off the street to backup Wilson, that’s ridiculous to me. That’s not a good coach. A good coach can plug and play guys. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 4 hours ago, rangerous said: Pat needs to ditch the wife beater. The wife beater happens to go great with the solid gold Rolex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 4 hours ago, rangerous said: Yep. I think brown would have trouble blocking any speed rusher if left out on an island. Pat needs to ditch the wife beater. He wears the same black tank top every single day. Must have 1000 of them in his wardrobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 From what I saw- didn’t look like there was a plan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neckdemon Posted September 21 Popular Post Share Posted September 21 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: Smart coaches take your best player and move him around and make the very best use of their best players. Dumb coaches keep your all pro CB on one side only and do not put him against the other teams wr threat 'because we don;t roll that way' Or keep your pro bowl DT in one spot all game so he can get doubled easily. Saleh is proving to be a crap coach 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagsFanJif Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said: been saying this since during the game - the coaches blew this but according to some on here you're not allowed to blame the coaches at all. that first play they show here looks like it was supposed to be a screen but Dallas was in man and covered it perfectly. Zach probably should have threw it at his feet immediately. But you're kind of giving it away aren't you? You have the RB on the opposite side of Parsons and no one else out there to help - HMMM - I wonder why? Better design would have been to run the screen off the RB chipping #11 but that's obviously hindsight. Nobody said you cant blame them, you're being dramatic. I've defended them saying that it's early in the season and just like players, they're getting their bearing's straight and also having to prepare for the best defense in the NFL w/ the worst QB in the NFL on the fly during a short week I'm sure they had a game plan, I'm sure they planned for Parsons, maybe it was a great plan, maybe it was a bad, idk but it got blown up on the very first play because Parson is insane. idk who the dude is that was talking about playing Kearse but I think he laid out why your strategy is risky. He also shared how they chipped him all game and he still got 4 sacks and when you do that, you're limiting your play calling. So in this game if Dallas wasnt going to blitz, maybe the Jets thought w/ a veteran OL they could handle 5 on 4 w/ out sacrificing a play maker? Maybe they thought if they created some space they could give Zach more time and room to operate? You know why they had a segment on the show about this? Because Parsons is on another planet. It's not because oh my what were the Jets doing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 McCarthy and Quinn coached circles around Hack and Ulbrich more to come Sunday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy and the Jets Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I will die on this hill: the "plan" to put Brown one on one against Parsons when already on your #2 QB is a fireable offense. There should have been a tight end in motion to his side every single play blasting him on every signal snap. If nothing else slow him down and tire him out. He was taking his stance like he was ready to run the 100 with absolutely nothing in the way (not even a hard count) to slow him down. Think he had 11 of these situations and got 2 sacks, 3 pressures and a couple of hits in for good measure. Embarrassing coaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Rico Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 It was a great plan, it just didn't work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 hour ago, Larz said: McCarthy and Quinn coached circles around Hack and Ulbrich mote to come Sunday. Most other coaches will. Saleh is just not good. He is a cheerleader, that attracted current ownership. They can’t evaluate skills when hiring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corn Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Some quarterbacks would watch where Parsons is lined up and his first step then move to the vacant spot It's like having Lawrence Taylor out there. They did coach him up on that right or do the better quarterbacks just teach themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 11 hours ago, AFJF said: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxIrbeOh5gfxj4OCFll-p_4KfAcAhLl-kK?si=R5nRwefFFwcPkvrN Link above is a 1 minute clip from the convo. Full interview below with Parsons vs Jets starting at the 12:05 mark for a few minutes I remember debating someone the other day who thought that the Dallas defense was laying down in the 4th quarter in "garbage time". JJ Watt talks about (at 13:05) one of those "garbage time" plays by Micah Parsons being "pure effort" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 3 hours ago, Chewy and the Jets said: I will die on this hill: the "plan" to put Brown one on one against Parsons when already on your #2 QB is a fireable offense. There should have been a tight end in motion to his side every single play blasting him on every signal snap. If nothing else slow him down and tire him out. He was taking his stance like he was ready to run the 100 with absolutely nothing in the way (not even a hard count) to slow him down. Think he had 11 of these situations and got 2 sacks, 3 pressures and a couple of hits in for good measure. Embarrassing coaching. The Jets asked Duane Brown to block Parsons one-on-one, with no help from additional blockers, on a shocking 14 snaps in Sunday's game. That's a lot to ask any offensive tackle in the NFL to handle, let alone a 38-year-old who missed most of the summer recovering from major shoulder surgery. Parsons responded by racking up a whopping nine pressures, four QB hits, and two sacks. He single-handedly changed the complexion of the game, and it's because the Jets allowed him to. That's the best Carter and the Jets were able to come up with, despite the extra hours of planning they put in. Perhaps that's what makes Sunday's performance so embarrassing for the coaching staff. On top of that, offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett's questionable personnel usage continues to be an issue. Hackett's refusal to play Jeremy Ruckert, the team's best run-blocking tight end, more than five snaps on Sunday is puzzling. Ruckert is Pro Football Focus' highest-graded run-blocking tight end through two weeks. Meanwhile, C.J. Uzomah finished dead last among all 79 tight ends in the NFL in PFF run-block grade in Week 2. Uzomah continues to be an important part of the offense, even lining up at wide receiver in some formations. All the while, Ruckert sat on the bench while the Jets struggled to get their ground game going. Even the Jets' approach to their rushing attack made no sense. Despite the team finding success running behind the right side of their offensive line, the Jets continued to run primarily to the left. The Jets rushed eight times for 18 yards when running to the left. They only ran to the right twice, but each play gained six yards. As it turns out, running behind Alijah Vera-Tucker and Mekhi Becton — the team's best run blockers — is a good idea. Running behind Duane Brown and Laken Tomlinson, especially with Micah Parsons on that side, is a bad idea. This is simple stuff that anyone watching from home could point out. The numbers show it, too. The film definitely shows it. The Jets came out with one of the worst game plans they could have put together on Sunday. They played into the Cowboys' strengths, gave Parsons every opportunity to take over the game, and limited the effectiveness of their own players. https://thejetpress.com/posts/ny-jets-ol-coach-extra-hours-disastrous-game-plan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 7 hours ago, neckdemon said: Saleh is proving to be a crap coach Saleh is trying the replicate what he learned from Quinn and Bradley under Pete Carroll in Seattle with the Legion of Boom. They had a relatively simple scheme that ran very efficiently. The problem is for it to work you need 5-6 Pro Bowlers. So unless you have Kam Chancellor, Earl Thomas, Richard Sherman, Bobby Wagner, Frank Clark, Michael Bennett, etc. lining up, it has issues.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 McCarthy and Quinn coached circles around Hack and Ulbrich mote to come Sunday. One mote timeSent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKlecko Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 8 hours ago, Larz said: McCarthy and Quinn coached circles around Hack and Ulbrich mote to come Sunday. McCarthy isn't known for being a cerebral HC or outcoaching anyone, so if he outcoaches Saleh it's pathetic and not good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 9 hours ago, Larz said: McCarthy and Quinn coached circles around Hack and Ulbrich mote to come Sunday. Yeah. Thank God they hired Adam Gase, who I was told was taking football in the direction it was going. Or some horsesh*t like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 6 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I remember debating someone the other day who thought that the Dallas defense was laying down in the 4th quarter in "garbage time". JJ Watt talks about (at 13:05) one of those "garbage time" plays by Micah Parsons being "pure effort" I was shocked at how hard they were playing in the 4th quarter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Lol. Did they even game plan for Dallas? Looked like they did not lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 6 minutes ago, Hal said: Lol. Did they even game plan for Dallas? Looked like they did not lol. game planning is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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