PFF Grades for Week 3 vs Patriots

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[Skeptable]

Interesting .... Everyone hates Uzomah yet he was the highest rated in almost every category.

[Beerfish]

Ruckert gets one fing snap.

Amazing how all our dline is getting awesome sauce scores and we got 0 sacks.

Our all world defense is currently ranked 20th in yards per game and 21st in sacks.

[chirorob]

2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Ruckert gets one fing snap.

Amazing how all our dline is getting awesome sauce scores and we got 0 sacks.

Our all world defense is currently ranked 20th in yards per game and 21st in sacks.

To he fair, where are they on yards per drive and points per drive?

The offense had 4 first downs through 3 quarters.  Against Dallas they had 3 first downs in the first half.

[Nixhead]

Look at the top 5 or 6 offensive scores - all lineman. That is a positive if I’ve ever seen one! 🤫😬😬🧐

[Augustiniak]

Just now, Nixhead said:

Look at the top 5 or 6 offensive scores - all lineman. That is a positive if I’ve ever seen one! 🤫😬😬🧐

it's not them. 

[Beerfish]

7 minutes ago, chirorob said:

To he fair, where are they on yards per drive and points per drive?

The offense had 4 first downs through 3 quarters.  Against Dallas they had 3 first downs in the first half.

They can't get off the field and after the first game they have not generated any turnovers.  No sacks last game, i think 1 vs dallas

If we want to say our offense is so so, kinda okay but can't handle the poor offense fine.  But sure as hell they cant be called great or laughably elite.

[doitny]

13 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

They can't get off the field and after the first game they have not generated any turnovers.  No sacks last game, i think 1 vs dallas

If we want to say our offense is so so, kinda okay but can't handle the poor offense fine.  But sure as hell they cant be called great or laughably elite.

they have 4 passing TD and 0 rushing TDs giving up in 3 games.

held Buffalo to 16 pts and NE to 13 points. 

even the Dallas game they gave up 2 TDs. the rest were FGs.

thats pretty damm good. imagine how good they could be if they had a offense that could give them a rest or 2. you can discount how it hurts a defense to keep going out there after 3 and outs. 

we have the same TO (4) as KC. we have more sacks than Phila. but nobody cares cause their offenses win. this defense is just fine. 

[chirorob]

23 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

They can't get off the field and after the first game they have not generated any turnovers.  No sacks last game, i think 1 vs dallas

If we want to say our offense is so so, kinda okay but can't handle the poor offense fine.  But sure as hell they cant be called great or laughably elite.

Elite?  No.

They shut down the Bills, poor game against the Cowboys, good game against the Pats.   1 badly blown coverage that led to an easy TD.   Other than that, they gave up 2 field goals.  Those 2 field goals, the Pats had a combined 1 first down.

[chirorob]

1 hour ago, bla bla bla said:

Side note

Really solid 1st game for Timmpann

[RevisIsland610]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Ruckert gets one fing snap.

Amazing how all our dline is getting awesome sauce scores and we got 0 sacks.

Our all world defense is currently ranked 20th in yards per game and 21st in sacks.

They have also allowed 16 and 13 points against in 2 of the 3 games. Both of them should have been wins. 

[Bowles Movement]

1 hour ago, bla bla bla said:

This is hard to fathom.  The starting O line got great PFF scores but they couldnt run block or pass block.

The D line gets good PFF scores but they didnt do a good job stopping the run and didnt get any sacks.  And the entire D was again horrible on third down.

Who is watching the games and coming up with these scores?

[Greg555]

Defense has been good, not great. Unfortunately..it has to be great for this Jets team to win because the offense is horrible.  And yes..it’s mostly..if not quite entirely..on the QB

[Augustiniak]

6 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

This is hard to fathom.  The starting O line got great PFF scores but they couldnt run block or pass block.

The D line gets good PFF scores but they didnt do a good job stopping the run and didnt get any sacks.  And the entire D was again horrible on third down.

Who is watching the games and coming up with these scores?

The OL is more than adequate but the qb sucks and that changes how we see the game. 

[Saul Goodman]

6 minutes ago, Greg555 said:

Defense has been good, not great. Unfortunately..it has to be great for this Jets team to win because the offense is horrible.  And yes..it’s mostly..if not quite entirely..on the QB

No sacks or turnovers in the past two games. 

[Bowles Movement]

17 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

The OL is more than adequate but the qb sucks and that changes how we see the game. 

Fair enough but that doesnt explain the inability to run the ball at all or the defensive line scores .

[Augustiniak]

8 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

Fair enough but that doesnt explain the inability to run the ball at all or the defensive line scores .

I’m just commenting on the OL and the good grades.  I think if you have a competent qb defenses can’t key in on breece hall.  

[BigRy56]

Sounds like outside of a penalty, Joe Tippman was lights out. This OL configuration worked well I thought. I think this is the unit for the foreseeable future

[BroadwayRay]

Jermaine Johnson, bust.

[Augustiniak]

14 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Sounds like outside of a penalty, Joe Tippman was lights out. This OL configuration worked well I thought. I think this is the unit for the foreseeable future

They’re missing a qb and the whole team knows it.  

[CrazyCarl40]

More Huff please. Cut Carl Lawson tomorrow. Time to give the young guys alllll the snaps. 

[bla bla bla]

30 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

Fair enough but that doesnt explain the inability to run the ball at all or the defensive line scores .

It does though.

If the Pats don't respect Zach then they load 8 in the box. 8 players is going to almost always stop a sure fire run.

Defensive line wise, we need to score points for them to confidently pass rush, get sacks and cause poorly throw passes that can get INT.

This teams short comings for game 1 and 3 are squarely on Zach IMO

[Bowles Movement]

3 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

It does though.

If the Pats don't respect Zach then they load 8 in the box. 8 players is going to almost always stop a sure fire run.

Defensive line wise, we need to score points for them to confidently pass rush, get sacks and cause poorly throw passes that can get INT.

This teams short comings for game 1 and 3 are squarely on Zach IMO

NE ran 40 times for 159 yds , was 8/19 on third down, and with zero sacks for the game, and YOU think that's on Zac Wilson?

You might want to get a second opinion.

 

[sligoker]

McDonald was fairly highly rated relative to others on the. Defense--But Saleh and his lacky actually sat him last week. WTF.

[maury77]

PFF graded the OL pretty well. 

[#27TheDominator]

4 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

NE ran 40 times for 159 yds , was 8/19 on third down, and with zero sacks for the game, and YOU think that's on Zac Wilson?

You might want to get a second opinion.

 

Less than 4 ypc!  Cut them all!!!!!

[Augustiniak]

6 minutes ago, sligoker said:

McDonald was fairly highly rated relative to others on the. Defense--But Saleh and his lacky actually sat him last week. WTF.

The geniuses sat tippman too.  And wait till they put Izzy in there.  And ruckert gets one play and gets a rare first down.  The coaching staff does not know how to use the players they’re given. 

[Drums]

Disappointed in the play, even more disappointed in the coaching. 

[pointman]

2 hours ago, Skeptable said:

Interesting .... Everyone hates Uzomah yet he was the highest rated in almost every category.

True. How does everyone hate him so much when he scores all those touchdowns, catches all those balls, runs for yards after carry? HOW?

[pointman]

Huff needs more playtime. 

[Ecuadorian Jet]

PFF Grades.....enough said

[BCJet]

1 hour ago, Saul Goodman said:

No sacks or turnovers in the past two games. 

This is a team game.

Imagine sitting down and watching our offensive film.   Would you then have your own offense taking 7 stop drops, throwing the ball down the field?  Nope - you do what everyone is going to do to us until we figure out a way to score.  Run, short drops, quick passes and dont take any chances.  Why would a team care if they punts - we cant score even if we start drives on our own 40.  

Unfortunately this defense was built to play with a lead and send waves of pass rushers. There is also a personnel issue with this team leaning so heavily on veterans who have clearly shown they dont have it anymore,  Huff had another solid game vs the run and should be playing more.  I think we missed Adams yesterday on the TD which seemed like a miscommunication.  

Its a collective failure here as to why the defense isnt going to play up to their talent level.  You cant just blame them - which is why continuing to play Zach is such a disaster for the organization

[Bowles Movement]

1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

Less than 4 ypc!  Cut them all!!!!!

Meanwhile we were 22 rushes for 38 yds, so should we celebrate that effort?

[sciond]

[slimjasi]

3 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Ruckert gets one fing snap.

Amazing how all our dline is getting awesome sauce scores and we got 0 sacks.

Our all world defense is currently ranked 20th in yards per game and 21st in sacks.

The offense had like two first downs in the first half yesterday 
 

yards per game given up is always going to inflated when you aren’t supported by a functional offense