Popular Post OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted September 27 Popular Post Share Posted September 27 From jetsxfactor. AVT has now allowed only a few pressures (no hits or sacks) over 4 career starts at RT. 1 pressure against NE. Tippmann allowed 0 pressures in over 40 pass blocking snaps vs NE. Holding was on a play he was stepped on off the snap. Team pass blocking grade was 3rd highest in past 2 seasons. Zach held the ball over 3 seconds on average, longest this past week only behind Fields. On 2 of his sacks, Zach held the ball for 5 seconds on average. McGovern & Tomlinson were the weak links again. 4 pressures each, which is poor for interior OLinemen. Michael Carter and Breece Hall each blocked well. Jeremy Ruckert played 1 ******* snap. SMH 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 8 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: From jetsxfactor. AVT has now allowed only a few pressures (no hits or sacks) over 4 career starts at RT. 1 pressure against NE. Tippmann allowed 0 pressures in over 40 pass blocking snaps vs NE. Holding was on a play he was stepped on off the snap. Team pass blocking grade was 3rd highest in past 2 seasons. Zach held the ball over 3 seconds on average, longest this past week only behind Fields. On 2 of his sacks, Zach held the ball for 5 seconds on average. McGovern & Tomlinson were the weak links again. 4 pressures each, which is poor for interior OLinemen. Michael Carter and Breece Hall each blocked well. Jeremy Ruckert played 1 ******* snap. SMH Ruckert needs more touches! And we need 3 linemen. I guess Max isn't cutting it in practice? I would like to see a OL heavy draft. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 The o line played better no doubt but tinker bell still cant move the ball 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Tippmann is very strong. When he locks on, he does not get pushed back - unlike McGovern, who is an unathletic finessee center (1 of the worst starting centers in the league and his salary backs that up that claim). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Oh man, being wrong about Tippman bust vibes would be nice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 1 hour ago, pointman said: Ruckert needs more touches! And we need 3 linemen. I guess Max isn't cutting it in practice? I would like to see a OL heavy draft. Carter Warren is also in the pipeline. No idea how he'll perform (down the road) but he certainly "looks the part". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 1 hour ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: From jetsxfactor. AVT has now allowed only a few pressures (no hits or sacks) over 4 career starts at RT. 1 pressure against NE. Tippmann allowed 0 pressures in over 40 pass blocking snaps vs NE. Holding was on a play he was stepped on off the snap. Team pass blocking grade was 3rd highest in past 2 seasons. Zach held the ball over 3 seconds on average, longest this past week only behind Fields. On 2 of his sacks, Zach held the ball for 5 seconds on average. McGovern & Tomlinson were the weak links again. 4 pressures each, which is poor for interior OLinemen. Michael Carter and Breece Hall each blocked well. Jeremy Ruckert played 1 ******* snap. SMH In another thread, you blasted the Tippmann/AVT moves. What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted September 27 Author Share Posted September 27 3 minutes ago, Joe Willie White Shoes said: In another thread, you blasted the Tippmann/AVT moves. What gives? No way, that must be a misunderstanding. Show the quote. I posted stats from jetsxfactor showing how well they did and called for these changes after the Dallas game. I also posted I prefer giving Schweitzer a shot over Tomlinson. I demand a public apology 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Things Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Becton, :sigh: Tomlinson, Tippmann, AVT, Mitchell Try it out and put Ruckert next to Mitchell. Edit: or fcuk it. Get rid of Tomlinson and move McGovern to LG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactsOnly Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Line was actually not complete dog sh*t Sunday night will be a treat! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 I hope we have 3 long term pieces on this line. I’d try Tippman at LG and see how he does there. Could be very valuable for us. Also just permanently change AVT to the full time RT and pay him as a RT. LT: Becton LG: Tippman RT: AVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 3 hours ago, Barton said: Tippmann is very strong. When he locks on, he does not get pushed back - unlike McGovern, who is an unathletic finessee center (1 of the worst starting centers in the league and his salary backs that up that claim). The lack of demand he say in free agency speaks to that, totally agree on his salary. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 15 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I hope we have 3 long term pieces on this line. I’d try Tippman at LG and see how he does there. Could be very valuable for us. Also just permanently change AVT to the full time RT and pay him as a RT. LT: Becton LG: Tippman RT: AVT I want to record to reflect that I thought they should have picked up Becton's 5th year option. Would have saved money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Line played well, but worth bearing in mind that for at least half the game the Patsies were on half of their back up D line. I would want to see how they play a few more games before jumping to any conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 7 hours ago, FactsOnly said: Line was actually not complete dog sh*t Sunday night will be a treat! whats interesting is that the best and the worst qbs in the league will be playing against eachother 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 The adjustments were ok, but incomplete. Tippmann is a center, and not only that a really good center. Don't eff with his career. Play him at center. Move McGovern to guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 AVT needs to stay at T for us. And Tippman better never be on the bench again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 7 hours ago, Maxman said: I want to record to reflect that I thought they should have picked up Becton's 5th year option. Would have saved money. I have made the same point, but as a business person you could see Woody not want to invest more $millions in someone who is a flake. The right answer for Becton would be a 2 year extension that offers him the 5th year option guaranteed for 2 years. Franchise Becton, cut Tomlinson and McGovern, move AVT to LG (another premium position), Tippman plays C, find a RG, and hopefully one of the other guys can play RT. Voila! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 That Tippman isn't the starting center is mind boggling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adoni Beast Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 AVT at RT is what I and a lot of posters have been suggesting going back to last season, and it clearly needs to happen. Let Becton prove himself at LT for the reason of the year and AVT settle into RT. Start Tippmann the rest of the way and see what we have going into 2024 as long term solutions to the OL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 The O-Line was fine but it's worthless without a real QB. Zach Wilson gives no other unit a chance to be successful. He has no idea where to go with the ball and holds it forever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 13 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: From jetsxfactor. AVT has now allowed only a few pressures (no hits or sacks) over 4 career starts at RT. 1 pressure against NE. Tippmann allowed 0 pressures in over 40 pass blocking snaps vs NE. Holding was on a play he was stepped on off the snap. Team pass blocking grade was 3rd highest in past 2 seasons. Zach held the ball over 3 seconds on average, longest this past week only behind Fields. On 2 of his sacks, Zach held the ball for 5 seconds on average. McGovern & Tomlinson were the weak links again. 4 pressures each, which is poor for interior OLinemen. Michael Carter and Breece Hall each blocked well. Jeremy Ruckert played 1 ******* snap. SMH This is a good thing. They did well in the second half even though they came up short. Hopefully this oline will get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Yeah the line was lit. Dominated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Tomlinson really hasn't been bad so far this year outside of a couple plays week one. Overall I'd say McGovern is currently our weakest link. Unfortunately what alternative is there if AVT sticks at RT? Use Schweitzer at RG? Either way I'm excited to see this line continue to gel together and hopefully get even better. By the time Siemian steps in, the hope is that this will actually be a consistently solid unit. The talk of "gotta take OL in the 1st" should hopefully die out a bit now, and be replaced by "gotta take a QB in the 1st". If not we better be trading up into the 2nd for one of the top QBs that manage to last to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 14 hours ago, pointman said: Ruckert needs more touches! And we need 3 linemen. I guess Max isn't cutting it in practice? I would like to see a OL heavy draft. If Rodgers comes back as well as this CS and GM then the first round pick has to be an OT. If the team is blown up replacing the CS and possibly GM AS WELL AS Rodgers not coming back then the first round pick should be one of the top QBs to start anew with the incoming CS and possibly GM. For all JDs good work it is honestly a pretty good sized risk letting him pick another QB in the 2024 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 14 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: From jetsxfactor. AVT has now allowed only a few pressures (no hits or sacks) over 4 career starts at RT. 1 pressure against NE. Tippmann allowed 0 pressures in over 40 pass blocking snaps vs NE. Holding was on a play he was stepped on off the snap. Team pass blocking grade was 3rd highest in past 2 seasons. Zach held the ball over 3 seconds on average, longest this past week only behind Fields. On 2 of his sacks, Zach held the ball for 5 seconds on average. McGovern & Tomlinson were the weak links again. 4 pressures each, which is poor for interior OLinemen. Michael Carter and Breece Hall each blocked well. Jeremy Ruckert played 1 ******* snap. SMH How does McGovern keep a starting job? He's always sucked in my opinion... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 12 minutes ago, TNJet said: How does McGovern keep a starting job? He's always sucked in my opinion... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 1 hour ago, Adoni Beast said: AVT at RT is what I and a lot of posters have been suggesting going back to last season, and it clearly needs to happen. Let Becton prove himself at LT for the reason of the year and AVT settle into RT. Start Tippmann the rest of the way and see what we have going into 2024 as long term solutions to the OL. Why is it that when things fall apart the jet hc is always reluctant to play the draft picks? It must wrankle douglas that ruckert barely plays, Izzy is out and McDonald is minimized. Your season is on the brink, play guys who can make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 3 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Why is it that when things fall apart the jet hc is always reluctant to play the draft picks? It must wrankle douglas that ruckert barely plays, Izzy is out and McDonald is minimized. Your season is on the brink, play guys who can make plays. Because we typically have defensive head coaches who think defensively+conservatively, and think that "defense wins the games, and offense is there to score 3 points and run out the clock." The one time we hired an offensive coach recently, he was the worst offensive coach ever....just to drop a boot on our nuts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 6 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: Because we typically have defensive head coaches who think defensively+conservatively, and think that "defense wins the games, and offense is there to score 3 points and run out the clock." The one time we hired an offensive coach recently, he was the worst offensive coach ever....just to drop a boot on our nuts. I wouldn’t let these coaches have at it if they take a qb again. And i do think saleh is saying anything to avoid mutiny and defend his players and no way wants to play wilson but that’s what he has, and it’s going to be his downfall. So he may as well play ruckert and tippman and try to improve the blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Jets could have traded back in rd 2 in ‘21 for additional picks and still drafted Creed Humphrey Instead they went for Elijah Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: I wouldn’t let these coaches have at it if they take a qb again. And i do think saleh is saying anything to avoid mutiny and defend his players and no way wants to play wilson but that’s what he has, and it’s going to be his downfall. So he may as well play ruckert and tippman and try to improve the blocking. If we take another QB, then this coaching staff better be gone. This whole Saleh + Hackett setup is solely to serve Aaron Rodgers. If by miracle we win a Super Bowl it will be because of Aaron Rodgers running the entire offense and letting Saleh do his thing on D which we can't argue. It's a damn good defense. But I dont want Saleh and Hackett anywhere near a highly drafted rookie QB and their development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 4 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: If we take another QB, then this coaching staff better be gone. This whole Saleh + Hackett setup is solely to serve Aaron Rodgers. If by miracle we win a Super Bowl it will be because of Aaron Rodgers running the entire offense and letting Saleh do his thing on D which we can't argue. It's a damn good defense. But I dont want Saleh and Hackett anywhere near a highly drafted rookie QB and their development. I'd be perfectly fine with a rookie QB sitting behind Aaron Rodgers. He and Hackett were there when Jordan Love was drafted - didn't seem to have a negative impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 2 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: If we take another QB, then this coaching staff better be gone. This whole Saleh + Hackett setup is solely to serve Aaron Rodgers. If by miracle we win a Super Bowl it will be because of Aaron Rodgers running the entire offense and letting Saleh do his thing on D which we can't argue. It's a damn good defense. But I dont want Saleh and Hackett anywhere near a highly drafted rookie QB and their development. And that’s why this season, the way it’s unfolding, is actually fascinating in a dark humor way. Rodgers getting hurt set the team on a course to suck with wilson, who the jets were hoping to hide for another year and then trade him for something, anything. Now the team seems destined for a top 10 pick and maybe top 5, with the coaches here only really shills for rodgers who is 40 and coming off a major injury and kinda looked frail in that one series he did play. So while rodgers cheers wilson and admonishes anyone who boos from his bed, saleh is forced to look into everyone’s eyes again and say he has faith in a qb who he benched last year. While the entire season’s success hinged on rodgers, the team seems to have a lot of young talent, some of which really hasn’t impacted games yet (ruckert, Izzy, tippman and mcdonald to name a few). Now that they keep that 1st round pick in a draft that early on appears to have many qbs projected to be drafted in the first round, and presumably, more in the 2nd round, the jets find themselves with one foot in the present with whatever rodgers can give them next year, and one foot in the future with the opportunity to draft a qb, reset the gm’s clock and give them a chance when rodgers eventually gets hurt again. Rodgers held all the cards this spring and summer, but now, his age, rehab, the potential for coaching changes and the jets keeping that 1st rounder has completely changed the landscape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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