Short & Sweet

[KRL]

- Too many mistakes and bad calls led to this loss:

  * Conklin drop in the end zone, instead of it being 17-9 it was 17-5

  * Carter drop at the end of the half.  Instead of picking up the first
    down and driving deeper into scoring territory you settle for the long
    Zuerlein miss

  * Mosley dropping an easy INT, which led to a FG which put KC up 20-12

  * With the game tied at 20 and the Jets at midfield, the refs call illegal
    man downfield on an Uzomah catch he took down to the 35

  * On Hall's long run (40+ yards) he broke inside into traffic and was tackled
    before getting into scoring territory.  No points on that drive

  * Wilson's fumble down 23-20 at midfield

  * The awful holding call on Gardner that overturned Mahomes third INT

  * The multiple missed holding calls on KC LT (Taylor) on Johnson.  Where he
    literally pinned Johnson's arm under his armpit and never let go

- Cook is doing too much "pitty pat" with his feet and showing no explosion.  If
he can't bring more to the table it's time to de-activate him (save $$$ on his
contract) and bring up Abanikanda

- Quincy Williams is turning into a star (13 Tackles, 2 TFL, 2 PBU, QB Hit), he's
harnessed his speed where he's not recklessly missing tackles/assignments anymore

- Who would've ever thought that Wilson would outplay Mahomes, but he did and it
wasn't even close.  And if he can do it in that environment (Namath crushing him,
down 17-0 and the crowd disgusted, NBC cutting to that skank Swift at every turn)
he now needs to do it every game.  If Wilson plays like that this team will shake
off the 1-3 start and make the playoffs.  I hate "moral victories" but I'll take it
if Wilson can build on that performance and continue to be a "mini Rodgers"

- The NFL better worry about their crappy officiating and stop with this Kelce/Swift
"power couple" nonsense!!!  Are they serious about the product they're putting on the
field of more concerned about being "Hollywood Tonight"?  I'm sick of holding my breath
during every play and waiting to see if some ref wants to impact the game on a "ticky
tack" call away from the action.  Or worse totally missing an obvious call right in
front of their face

- Finally the whole Kelce/Swift thing seems fake and forced.  Kelce all of a sudden
is getting all these commercials (Bud Light, Pfizer) then "as payment" he gets Swift
who pushes her upcoming tour film?  And you have to wonder what's going on with Reid,
how do you let Kelce leave the team hotel to get "sexy time" with Swift?  Then he 
basically doesn't show up during the game 

[#27TheDominator]

I think you pretty much hit all the highlights. 

I vehemently disagree with any characterization of the Conklin miss as a "drop."  That was a tough play.  He had to lay out and the ground knocked the ball loose.  The throw was decent, but he had to change speed to get to it and it was far from an easy catch.  IMO the Wilson one was more on the receiver since if he'd gone all out the entire time he'd probably have been able to run under it, but no real complaints there either. 

I think there must have been some weird set or timing issue with the illegal man downfield play.  That was a killer.  Negated a big gain and they could not climb out of it to get the 1st down.  I'm fine with piling on McGovern, but it seemed like Vera-Tucker was also sprinting down field on that one and McGovern just got out quicker. 

Somebody else, I think @slimjasi pointed out a couple of what seemed like obvious false starts on their RT were not called.  At least one should have negated a big gain.

[TuscanyTile2]

9 minutes ago, KRL said:

- Finally the whole Kelce/Swift thing seems fake and forced.  Kelce all of a sudden
is getting all these commercials (Bud Light, Pfizer) then "as payment" he gets Swift
who pushes her upcoming tour film? 

This.   I think their relationship is a fake and they have a "pro-mance".  I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing more of this.

[Rhg1084]

Breece is the man but not sure how he didn’t make that last guy miss to score. He cut inside should’ve just blown past him 

[Jetsplayer21]

Rare a team plays near perfect. I’m sure if KC lost by 3 their fans would be pointing out just as long as a list. If the O and D both showed up in the 1st quarter, jets likely win by double digits.

[OilfieldJet]

4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

I think you pretty much hit all the highlights. 

I vehemently disagree with any characterization of the Conklin miss as a "drop."  That was a tough play.  He had to lay out and the ground knocked the ball loose.  The throw was decent, but he had to change he speed to get to it and it was far from an easy catch.  IMO the Wilson one was more on the receiver since if he'd gone all out the entire time he'd probably have been able to run under it, but no real complaints there either. 

I think there must have been some weird set or timing issue with the illegal man downfield play.  That was a killer.  Negated a big gain and they could not climb out of it to get the 1st down.  I'm fine with piling on McGovern, but it seemed like Vera-Tucker was also sprinting down field on that one and McGovern just got out quicker. 

Somebody else, I think @slimjasi pointed out a couple of what seemed like obvious false starts on their RT were not called.  At least one should have negated a big gain.

That Conklin “drop” would have been an amazing catch, but I saw it the same way….almost impossible to hold.

[#27TheDominator]

1 minute ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

This.   I think their relationship is a fake and they have a "pro-mance".  I wouldn't be surprised if we start seeing more of this.

I thought that was well known and something that has been going on forever.  Gets them each way more social media followers from a pool where they normally would not have exposure.

[jetstream23]

11 minutes ago, KRL said:

- Too many mistakes and bad calls led to this loss:

  * Conklin drop in the end zone, instead of it being 17-9 it was 17-5

  * Carter drop at the end of the half.  Instead of picking up the first
    down and driving deeper into scoring territory you settle for the long
    Zuerlein miss

  * Mosley dropping an easy INT, which led to a FG which put KC up 20-12

  * With the game tied at 20 and the Jets at midfield, the refs call illegal
    man downfield on an Uzomah catch he took down to the 35

  * On Hall's long run (40+ yards) he broke inside into traffic and was tackled
    before getting into scoring territory.  No points on that drive

  * Wilson's fumble down 23-20 at midfield

  * The awful holding call on Gardner that overturned Mahomes third INT

  * The multiple missed holding calls on KC LT (Taylor) on Johnson.  Where he
    literally pinned Johnson's arm under his armpit and never let go

- Cook is doing too much "pitty pat" with his feet and showing no explosion.  If
he can't bring more to the table it's time to de-activate him (save $$$ on his
contract) and bring up Abanikanda

- Quincy Williams is turning into a star (13 Tackles, 2 TFL, 2 PBU, QB Hit), he's
harnessed his speed where he's not recklessly missing tackles/assignments anymore

- Who would've ever thought that Wilson would outplay Mahomes, but he did and it
wasn't even close.  And if he can do it in that environment (Namath crushing him,
down 17-0 and the crowd disgusted, NBC cutting to that skank Swift at every turn)
he now needs to do it every game.  If Wilson plays like that this team will shake
off the 1-3 start and make the playoffs.  I hate "moral victories" but I'll take it
if Wilson can build on that performance and continue to be a "mini Rodgers"

- The NFL better worry about their crappy officiating and stop with this Kelce/Swift
"power couple" nonsense!!!  Are they serious about the product they're putting on the
field of more concerned about being "Hollywood Tonight"?  I'm sick of holding my breath
during every play and waiting to see if some ref wants to impact the game on a "ticky
tack" call away from the action.  Or worse totally missing an obvious call right in
front of their face

- Finally the whole Kelce/Swift thing seems fake and forced.  Kelce all of a sudden
is getting all these commercials (Bud Light, Pfizer) then "as payment" he gets Swift
who pushes her upcoming tour film?  And you have to wonder what's going on with Reid,
how do you let Kelce leave the team hotel to get "sexy time" with Swift?  Then he 
basically doesn't show up during the game 

ALL those mistakes and yet the Jets only lose by 3 points with Zach Wilson. This team has so much potential.

[kdels62]

11 minutes ago, KRL said:

- Too many mistakes and bad calls led to this loss:

  * Conklin drop in the end zone, instead of it being 17-9 it was 17-5

  * Carter drop at the end of the half.  Instead of picking up the first
    down and driving deeper into scoring territory you settle for the long
    Zuerlein miss

  * Mosley dropping an easy INT, which led to a FG which put KC up 20-12

  * With the game tied at 20 and the Jets at midfield, the refs call illegal
    man downfield on an Uzomah catch he took down to the 35

  * On Hall's long run (40+ yards) he broke inside into traffic and was tackled
    before getting into scoring territory.  No points on that drive

  * Wilson's fumble down 23-20 at midfield

  * The awful holding call on Gardner that overturned Mahomes third INT

  * The multiple missed holding calls on KC LT (Taylor) on Johnson.  Where he
    literally pinned Johnson's arm under his armpit and never let go

- Cook is doing too much "pitty pat" with his feet and showing no explosion.  If
he can't bring more to the table it's time to de-activate him (save $$$ on his
contract) and bring up Abanikanda

- Quincy Williams is turning into a star (13 Tackles, 2 TFL, 2 PBU, QB Hit), he's
harnessed his speed where he's not recklessly missing tackles/assignments anymore

- Who would've ever thought that Wilson would outplay Mahomes, but he did and it
wasn't even close.  And if he can do it in that environment (Namath crushing him,
down 17-0 and the crowd disgusted, NBC cutting to that skank Swift at every turn)
he now needs to do it every game.  If Wilson plays like that this team will shake
off the 1-3 start and make the playoffs.  I hate "moral victories" but I'll take it
if Wilson can build on that performance and continue to be a "mini Rodgers"

- The NFL better worry about their crappy officiating and stop with this Kelce/Swift
"power couple" nonsense!!!  Are they serious about the product they're putting on the
field of more concerned about being "Hollywood Tonight"?  I'm sick of holding my breath
during every play and waiting to see if some ref wants to impact the game on a "ticky
tack" call away from the action.  Or worse totally missing an obvious call right in
front of their face

- Finally the whole Kelce/Swift thing seems fake and forced.  Kelce all of a sudden
is getting all these commercials (Bud Light, Pfizer) then "as payment" he gets Swift
who pushes her upcoming tour film?  And you have to wonder what's going on with Reid,
how do you let Kelce leave the team hotel to get "sexy time" with Swift?  Then he 
basically doesn't show up during the game 

Unhinged post. Maybe let’s not call a woman you don’t know a skank.

[Joe W. Namath]

2 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Breece is the man but not sure how he didn’t make that last guy miss to score. He cut inside should’ve just blown past him 

That final gear will probably not return until next year.

One thig that was forgotten was that gutless call by coach to kick a fg and not go for it late in the 1st half. This coach is obsessed w/ kicking 50 plus yarders with Zeurlin.  

That was the biggest botch in the game.

[mphtrilogy]

this is the kind of game where you just stop following the NFL.

[CanadienJetsFan]

How about Zack with putting the rhetoric that “he’s not a NFLQB”to bed?

 

[Sperm Edwards]

10 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Somebody else, I think @slimjasi pointed out a couple of what seemed like obvious false starts on their RT were not called.  At least one should have negated a big gain.

I think another one would've been a freebie anyway because it was on a sack or a pick. It was pretty blatant. 

[DireJet]

7 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Breece is the man but not sure how he didn’t make that last guy miss to score. He cut inside should’ve just blown past him 

That’s like the one missing piece of his game. It’s weird bc he’s clearly fast enough. Not sure if it’s conditioning or over excitement at making a huge play. It happens a lot — certainly not a bad problem to have, of course. 

[T0mShane]

19 minutes ago, KRL said:

Kelce all of a sudden
is getting all these commercials (Bud Light, Pfizer) then "as payment" he gets Swift

[UntouchableCrew]

17 minutes ago, KRL said:

- Too many mistakes and bad calls led to this loss:

  * Conklin drop in the end zone, instead of it being 17-9 it was 17-5

  * Carter drop at the end of the half.  Instead of picking up the first
    down and driving deeper into scoring territory you settle for the long
    Zuerlein miss

  * Mosley dropping an easy INT, which led to a FG which put KC up 20-12

  * With the game tied at 20 and the Jets at midfield, the refs call illegal
    man downfield on an Uzomah catch he took down to the 35

  * On Hall's long run (40+ yards) he broke inside into traffic and was tackled
    before getting into scoring territory.  No points on that drive

  * Wilson's fumble down 23-20 at midfield

  * The awful holding call on Gardner that overturned Mahomes third INT

  * The multiple missed holding calls on KC LT (Taylor) on Johnson.  Where he
    literally pinned Johnson's arm under his armpit and never let go

Agreed. Frustrating loss -- to beat a top team like the Chiefs you can't make these kinds of mistakes. The bad calls against us were brutal but the Carter drop at the end of the half was a very easy play that really hurt us.

17 minutes ago, KRL said:

- Cook is doing too much "pitty pat" with his feet and showing no explosion.  If
he can't bring more to the table it's time to de-activate him (save $$$ on his
contract) and bring up Abanikanda

Without question. Cook has zero burst whatsoever -- he's below replacement level. I'd much rather have Carter or Izzy out there. Cook has negative value.

17 minutes ago, KRL said:

 

- Who would've ever thought that Wilson would outplay Mahomes, but he did and it
wasn't even close.  And if he can do it in that environment (Namath crushing him,
down 17-0 and the crowd disgusted, NBC cutting to that skank Swift at every turn)
he now needs to do it every game.  If Wilson plays like that this team will shake
off the 1-3 start and make the playoffs.  I hate "moral victories" but I'll take it
if Wilson can build on that performance and continue to be a "mini Rodgers"

If he can just play at "below average NFL QB" level this team can win games. I thought he'd absolutely wilt under the spotlight last night and he had his best game -- very encouraging. I'd still have Simien on standby but gotta hope he gets it going against the Broncos.

17 minutes ago, KRL said:

 

- Finally the whole Kelce/Swift thing seems fake and forced.  Kelce all of a sudden
is getting all these commercials (Bud Light, Pfizer) then "as payment" he gets Swift
who pushes her upcoming tour film?  And you have to wonder what's going on with Reid,
how do you let Kelce leave the team hotel to get "sexy time" with Swift?  Then he 
basically doesn't show up during the game 

Agreed. Feels so fake. Neither one of them shares any resemblance to any previous romantic partner they've had and the commercial aspect of it is being so shoved down our throats it's gross.

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Also JJ 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct on opening drive led to 3 pts for KC.

And Mahomes botches snap but of course Jets can’t / don’t recover it.

In addition, the following things are inexcusable:

— Breece 6 totes, Cook 5 totes.  I’d rather see Izzy get his shot or let Breece just carry the load.

— Gipson only 2 touches.  Dude is electric ⚡️ just need to keep feeding him the ball.

Bottom line is the refs aka the league were never gonna let the Jets win this game.

Reminds me of Goodell bear hugging Chris Jones after Super Bowl, while too close to a microphone:

”Hahaha, I don’t care if you rough the passer!!”

[Jolot]

12 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Unhinged post. Maybe let’s not call a woman you don’t know a skank.

How do you know that he doesn’t know her ?

[kdels62]

1 minute ago, Jolot said:

How do you know that he doesn’t know her ?

Don’t tell a bunch of strangers that a person you know personally is a skank. 

Pretty easy to avoid doing.

[frankiepapa]

Also JJ 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct on opening drive led to 3 pts for KC.
And Mahomes botches snap but of course Jets can’t / don’t recover it.
In addition, the following things are inexcusable:
— Breece 6 totes, Cook 5 totes.  I’d rather see Izzy get his shot or let Breece just carry the load.
— Gipson only 2 touches.  Dude is electric ️ just need to keep feeding him the ball.
Bottom line is the refs aka the league were never gonna let the Jets win this game.
Reminds me of Goodell bear hugging Chris Jones after Super Bowl, while too close to a microphone:
”Hahaha, I don’t care if you rough the passer!!”

Just seems to be the way the ball bounces... not only did mahomes recover, he got a first down...our fumble essentially ended the game..

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[Larz]

The opening drive of the 3rd quarter was magnificent and the turning point of Zach’s career. The first time I’ve seen him on a hot streak 

[JiFtheOracle]

Cook is absolute trash and should not see the field ever again.  He sucks so bad it’s astonishing.  Complete was of a down when he’s in the game.  I know Carter dropped a crucial ball but he’s usually sure handed and is 100x better than Cook. 

[KRL]

I apologize to Ms. Swift on using the term "skank".  From here forward I will use the terms 

"run through" and "high body count" when referring to Ms. Swift

[Joe W. Namath]

Just now, JiF said:

Cook is absolute trash and should not see the field ever again.  He sucks so bad it’s astonishing.  Complete was of a down when he’s in the game.  I know Carter dropped a crucial ball but he’s usually sure handed and is 100x better than Cook. 

There is a less than 0% chance that Dalvin Cook should ever be active for this team again.

[Jets Things]

26 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Unhinged post. Maybe let’s not call a woman you don’t know a skank.

Found Taylor Swift's dad. 

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

Cook is absolute trash and should not see the field ever again.  He sucks so bad it’s astonishing.  Complete was of a down when he’s in the game.  I know Carter dropped a crucial ball but he’s usually sure handed and is 100x better than Cook. 

@Bobby816

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Should be:

Breece - 70%

Carter 20%

Izzy 10%

Cook - Inactive.

[JiFtheOracle]

24 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Unhinged post. Maybe let’s not call a woman you don’t know a skank.

I tried listening to her music but it’s burn my ears off bad.  That said, sounded like 95% of her songs about how men are scum, she wants revenge, and calls out all the “flaws” of her ex-men publicly?  Skanky thing to do if you ask me. 

[T0mShane]

4 minutes ago, KRL said:

I apologize to Ms. Swift on using the term "skank".  From here forward I will use the terms 

"run through" and "high body count" when referring to Ms. Swift

This is what happens to a person’s brain when they’re tribally obligated to listen to Kid Rock B-sides all day. 

[Jetsfan80]

Breece/Carter:  9.3 YPC, 7.5 yards per touch

Dalvin Cook:  3.2 YPC, 3.0 yards per touch

 

Activate Izzy.  Cut Cook.

[kdels62]

5 minutes ago, KRL said:

I apologize to Ms. Swift on using the term "skank".  From here forward I will use the terms 

"run through" and "high body count" when referring to Ms. Swift

That’s right double down on being weird and gross.

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

I tried listening to her music but it’s burn my ears off bad.  That said, sounded like 95% of her songs about how men are scum, she wants revenge, and calls out all the “flaws” of her ex-men publicly?  Skanky thing to do if you ask me. 

^Dave Matthews Band concert attendee^

[nj meadowlands]

Breece must still be on a very strict pitch count.  It was very frustrating seeing Cook trot onto the field (and promptly into the arms of a linebacker) in situations where it felt like one burst through a seam from Breece was all we needed to blow open a drive.  I kept scanning the sideline for him thinking he was hurt.  Hopefully they take the cellophane off in the next few weeks.

[Bobby816]

2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

@Bobby816

Izzy needs to be playing. Said from the get go that he was our 2nd best RB. But doubt he'd get touches as a rookie. My point on brining in Cook was that Hall wasn't going to be himself to start the year. Which was true or else he would've had 2 long TDs week 1. So for me something better than Bam Knight getting 10 touches a game when we were a win now team with Rodgers was a need.

 

Now we aren't SB contenders. I'm ok with pretty much not playing Cook. Play Izzy.

[Jolot]

18 minutes ago, kdels62 said:

Don’t tell a bunch of strangers that a person you know personally is a skank. 

Pretty easy to avoid doing.

KRLs observations are the Gold Standard around here , if he says it I believe it , especially if he knows her personally.