Popular Post slowmoe57 Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 14 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet_Engine1 Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 Wow! I'd never seen that stat... ...Before the 532 times I've seen it since Sunday Night 1 1 2 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jbt Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 straight up trade? 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 Look, Zach Wilson played well for Zach Wilson but this stat says more about the defense. Mahomes was held to the 3rd lowest QB rating of his career. QBs face the opposing defense, not each other. 16 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ASH1962 Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 Boy if Zach can turn out to be a serviceable to good starting NFL QB that would make a mind-boggling difference to this franchise. I don't take much from one game, Mahomey could have been off a bit, but still, that is a solid accomplishment. Have to see more from "the new" Zach. If he goes out to Denver and reverts to the old Zach, then the KC game is meaningless in the grand scheme, but if he manages to actually have turned the corner and puts together some solid, turn over free starts in the coming weeks, we are on to something. I am totally rooting for Zach. We deserve this kind of break already. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 6 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Look, Zach Wilson played well for Zach Wilson but this stat says more about the defense. Mahomes was held to the 3rd lowest QB rating of his career. QBs face the opposing defense, not each other. Yes. Lost in the fact that Zach actually had a competent game at QB is the fact that the defense stifled the defending champs after making adjustments down 17-0. Mahomes looked frustrated at times in the 2nd half before the final drive 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 16 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Look, Zach Wilson played well for Zach Wilson but this stat says more about the defense. Mahomes was held to the 3rd lowest QB rating of his career. QBs face the opposing defense, not each other. So... this was the best Defense Mahomes has ever faced? Wilson was bad?? Mahomes sucks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 It's deceiving and it's not. It's not like Mahomes hasn't played against other really good defenses before. What's more amazing to me is that 99% of the NFL world, probably many of his coaches and teammates, expected him to fail in epic proportions. So for him to put on that type of performance in that situation in front of the crowd that was watching was an amazing accomplishment -- even for a moment. My hope is that moment translates to the coaches letting him play a lot more freely and his teammates fighting for him. I don't trust Saleh but I do trust Rodgers and prays he remains influential in the building, at least when it comes to running an offense. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 21 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Look, Zach Wilson played well for Zach Wilson but this stat says more about the defense. Mahomes was held to the 3rd lowest QB rating of his career. QBs face the opposing defense, not each other. ☝️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 14 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: So... this was the best Defense Mahomes has ever faced? Wilson was bad?? Mahomes sucks? Wilson played good for Zach Wilson. He helped lead the offense to 18 points which is 5 points less than the league average over the past few years. People are so used to Zach Wilson being dysfunctional that when he suddenly shows up looking like an NFL QB some are bamboozled into believing he had some sort of great game. He played good! I'm happy to see it and hope he continues to build on it. The Jets defense stifled Mahomes better than most have over the course of his career. It was one game so I wouldn't make any grandiose statements like "the best defense Mahomes ever faced". The combination of the defense stifling Mahomes and Zach playing like an NFL QB for a day are what I would credit this stat with. Stifling Mahomes is the more difficult accomplishment, obviously. To prove this, if you go look at all the opposing QB stat lines over Mahomes career I'll bet there are many that are as good or better than what Zach did on Sunday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 23 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Wow! I'd never seen that stat... ...Before the 532 times I've seen it since Sunday Night Did you also see Travis Kelce is dating Taylor Swift 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 8 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: It's deceiving and it's not. It's not like Mahomes hasn't played against other really good defenses before. What's more amazing to me is that 99% of the NFL world, probably many of his coaches and teammates, expected him to fail in epic proportions. So for him to put on that type of performance in that situation in front of the crowd that was watching was an amazing accomplishment -- even for a moment. My hope is that moment translates to the coaches letting him play a lot more freely and his teammates fighting for him. I don't trust Saleh but I do trust Rodgers and prays he remains influential in the building, at least when it comes to running an offense. Good post. Why? I agree with every single word you just wrote. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 4 minutes ago, PS17 said: Did you also see Travis Kelce is dating Taylor Swift 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1. Jets D held Mahomes mostly in check as a passer and forced several turnovers, which murders QBR. 2. Zach had the best statistical game of his career and his only turnover was a fumble, backbreaker tho it was, which doesn't murder QBR. 3. Chiefs ran all over our D, mitigating the need for Mahomes to pass a ton. The Zach "best game" part was certainly unexpected, but I don't think any of this is "insane", and I don't think it carries that much greater or broader meaning. Any given Sunday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 7 minutes ago, Warfish said: 1. Jets D held Mahomes mostly in check as a passer and forced several turnovers, which murders QBR. 2. Zach had the best statistical game of his career and his only turnover was a fumble, backbreaker tho it was, which doesn't murder QBR. 3. Chiefs ran all over our D, mitigating the need for Mahomes to pass a ton. The Zach "best game" part was certainly unexpected, but I don't think any of this is "insane", and I don't think it carries that much greater or broader meaning. Any given Sunday. Let's hope for every given Sunday. Only time will tell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 9 minutes ago, Warfish said: 1. Jets D held Mahomes mostly in check as a passer and forced several turnovers, which murders QBR. 2. Zach had the best statistical game of his career and his only turnover was a fumble, backbreaker tho it was, which doesn't murder QBR. 3. Chiefs ran all over our D, mitigating the need for Mahomes to pass a ton. The Zach "best game" part was certainly unexpected, but I don't think any of this is "insane", and I don't think it carries that much greater or broader meaning. Any given Sunday. It means Zach Wilson is turning into Mahomes! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: It means Zach Wilson is turning into Mahomes! Lol, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 This stat means nothing. Mahomes had a bad game, Zach had a good game. Nothing more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 53 minutes ago, jbt said: straight up trade? KC would have include at the very least a first round pick 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post docdhc Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 5 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: This stat means nothing. Mahomes had a bad game, Zach had a good game. Nothing more. The fact that it never happened in 127 previous games makes it somewhat significant 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, slowmoe57 said: Also old news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 8 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: This stat means nothing. Mahomes had a bad game, Zach had a good game. Nothing more. No, Mahomes didn’t have a bad game, Zach just happened to play better 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 23 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: It means Zach Wilson is turning into Mahomes! Off platform domination just like pimping isn’t easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 51 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Boy if Zach can turn out to be a serviceable to good starting NFL QB that would make a mind-boggling difference to this franchise. I don't take much from one game, Mahomey could have been off a bit, but still, that is a solid accomplishment. Have to see more from "the new" Zach. If he goes out to Denver and reverts to the old Zach, then the KC game is meaningless in the grand scheme, but if he manages to actually have turned the corner and puts together some solid, turn over free starts in the coming weeks, we are on to something. I am totally rooting for Zach. We deserve this kind of break already. I don't even mind a turnover. I want just want to see more drives like the start of the 3rd quarter. That 1 drive included 4 of his top 5 throws in his short NFL career. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 14 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: No, Mahomes didn’t have a bad game, Zach just happened to play better Patty was awful by his standards but found a way to win w-his legs. He’s a winner. That’s the difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sperm Edwards Posted October 3 Popular Post Share Posted October 3 28/42, 327 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 0 fumbles Brooks Bollinger, against the Dolphins in the middle of Miami's 6-game win streak. Thrilled with the improvement, especially with the expected blowout-humiliation based on how awful things were previously, but - like the far less-talented Bollinger - let's see him do it again. And again. And again. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 3 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: 28/42, 327 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, 0 fumbles Brooks Bollinger, against the Dolphins in the middle of Miami's 6-game win streak. Thrilled with the improvement, especially with the expected blowout-humiliation based on how awful things were previously, but - like the far less-talented Bollinger - let's see him do it again. And again. And again. Bollinger played in a real college football conference. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 That's it, cut Aaron Rodgers or make him a back-up 2024. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 21 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: No, Mahomes didn’t have a bad game, Zach just happened to play better I would call 60% completion percentage, below average yardage, 0 TD passes and 2 INTs a bad game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireJet Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 4 minutes ago, Hex said: I would call 60% completion percentage, below average yardage, 0 TD passes and 2 INTs a bad game. Yeah for real Mahomes looked awful, throwing off his back foot all night right into coverage. Our defense really ****s with these elite AFC QBs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, jbt said: straight up trade? For the great ZW? Better throw in Kelce and Swift. Maybe a couple refs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 minute ago, DireJet said: Yeah for real Mahomes looked awful, throwing off his back foot all night right into coverage. Our defense really ****s with these elite AFC QBs. Which will be awesome for us if Zach keeps playing like he did. Once teams start respecting his play the running game will get better, and the potential of the Jets skyrockets. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 8 minutes ago, Hex said: I would call 60% completion percentage, below average yardage, 0 TD passes and 2 INTs a bad game. it was the 3rd worst qb rating of Mahomes career. Of course it was a bad day for him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 8 minutes ago, Hex said: I would call 60% completion percentage, below average yardage, 0 TD passes and 2 INTs a bad game. Of course it was a bad passing game. Our D kept him in check quite well for his being the best QB in the NFL or close enough to it. They just couldn't stop the run, couldn't make vital stops when needed (like after Zach's fumble), and couldn't shut the Chiefs down late on several 3rd and 20+ spots. The Chiefs ground game really killed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungaman Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 1 hour ago, jbt said: straight up trade? No, we need at least a 2nd as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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