Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 games 12 catches on 20 targets 62 yards 0 TDs 15.5 yards per game 3.1 yards per target Average Depth of Target: 1.3 yards QB Rating when targeted: 44.2 1 INT when targeted, 1 drop And he just got cut in my fantasy money league (no one will be picking him up). Oof. Everyone who said we should draft this slot receiver extraordinaire with our 1st round pick should feel bad about that. 5 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Willie White Shoes Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Cue the "but he's better than _____" crowd. I don't disagree with Jestfan80, but I would feel better about this if McDonald was contributing something. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PS17 Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 Well, that’s it folks. We have our successor to 80’s Josh Allen is a RB thread. 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, Joe Willie White Shoes said: Cue the "but he's better than _____" crowd. I don't disagree, but I would feel better about this if McDonald was contributing something. At least EDGE rusher is a premium position and worth a shot. Quality slot receivers go undrafted all the time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, PS17 said: Well, that’s it folks. We have our successor to 80’s Josh Allen is a RB thread. Josh Allen is a far better Running Back than JSN is as an NFL receiver. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hex Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 @Joe W. Namath what DEFCON level is JSN at right now? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Everyone who said we should draft this slot receiver extraordinaire with our 1st round pick should feel bad about that. I don't. At all. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, Warfish said: I don't. At all. Well you should 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hex said: @Joe W. Namath what DEFCON level is JSN at right now? 12, because Joe still doesn't understand how DEFCON works 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 He was 1 of 4-5 pass catchers that would have made sense at #15. Not sure I get the point of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Well you should But I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I have no horse in this race but 4 games into his career. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Bold thread. Either going to be constantly thrown in your face or you bringing it up all the time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I have no horse in this race but 4 games into his career. Behind two excellent receivers on a run first team. OMG BUZT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: 4 games 12 catches on 20 targets 62 yards 0 TDs 15.5 yards per game 3.1 yards per target Average Depth of Target: 1.3 yards QB Rating when targeted: 44.2 1 INT when targeted, 1 drop And he just got cut in my fantasy money league (no one will be picking him up). Oof. Everyone who said we should draft this slot receiver extraordinaire with our 1st round pick should feel bad about that. I love the advanced stats like this. Good stuff. Is this available on Pro Football Reference or what do you use for that? I enjoy doing deeper dives on players like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Bold thread. Either going to be constantly thrown in your face or you bringing it up all the time. Either way I get the attention I so desperately crave. Win-win. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, HawkeyeJet said: I love the advanced stats like this. Good stuff. Is this available on Pro Football Reference or what do you use for that? I enjoy doing deeper dives on players like this Yep, PFR! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, PS17 said: Behind two excellent receivers on a run first team. OMG BUZT They threw it more than they ran it last night despite winning by 3 TDs AND despite an injury to Geno. On the season, they have 129 passing attempts vs 99 rushing attempts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Hex said: @Joe W. Namath what DEFCON level is JSN at right now? Hes at Defcon 6. He had the same amount of catches as DK Metcalf last night. JSN is a stud. Are we trying to argue he isnt to make us feel better that we drafted will mcdonald? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 As a JSN dynasty manager let me just say how thrilled I am that 80 started this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, PS17 said: As a JSN dynasty manager let me just say how thrilled I am that 80 started this thread. Any openings in your league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Hes at Defcon 6. He had the same amount of catches as DK Metcalf last night. JSN is a stud. Are we trying to argue he isnt to make us feel better that we drafted will mcdonald? Same amount of catches at DK, but DK also had 10x the amount of yards and a TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Hex said: Same amount of catches at DK, but DK also had 10x the amount of yards and a TD Eh, they run different routes. No big deal. The seahwaks completed 15 passes last night. Why is this a thread on this board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Eh, they run different routes. No big deal. The seahwaks completed 15 passes last night. Why is this a thread on this board? Because so many people were calling to draft him and he's had 62 yards of receiving over 4 games, and his catch % is lower than his QB's completion %. He's accounted for 7% total receiving yards and people are still calling him a stud and saying "We shoulda drafted him" 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jet_Engine1 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, Hex said: @Joe W. Namath what DEFCON level is JSN at right now? Purple 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: 4 games 12 catches on 20 targets 62 yards 0 TDs 15.5 yards per game 3.1 yards per target Average Depth of Target: 1.3 yards QB Rating when targeted: 44.2 1 INT when targeted, 1 drop And he just got cut in my fantasy money league (no one will be picking him up). Oof. Everyone who said we should draft this slot receiver extraordinaire with our 1st round pick should feel bad about that. I hope to God you don't own a dog that needs to be potty trained. Because you love rubbing noses in crap! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 In the meantime, let's look at our top draftee: Misc Passing Rushing Receiving Rnd Player Pick Pos Yrs From To AP1 PB St wAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD College/Univ 1 Will McDonald 15 DE 1 2023 2023 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 Iowa St. 2 Joe Tippmann 43 OL 1 2023 2023 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 Wisconsin 4 Carter Warren 120 OL 0 0 0 Pittsburgh 5 Israel Abanikanda 143 RB 0 0 0 Pittsburgh 6 Zaire Barnes 184 LB 0 0 0 Western Michigan 6 Jarrick Bernard-Converse 204 CB 0 0 0 LSU 7 Zack Kuntz 220 TE 0 0 0 Old Dom Will McDonald Wilbert McDonald IV 6-3, 236lb (190cm, 107kg) Team: New York Jets Born: June 4, 1999 (Age: 24-121d) College: Iowa St. (College Stats) Weighted Career AV (100-95-...): 0 (17337th overall since 1960) High School: Pulaski (WI), North (WI) Draft: New York Jets in the 1st round (15th overall) of the 2023 NFL Draft. Twitter: @WILL_JUN1OR · Instagram: _.ix.__ 99 Games Def Interceptions Fumbles Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int Yds IntTD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds FRTD Sk Comb Solo Ast TFL QBHits Sfty AV Career 3 0 0 0.0 1 1 0 0 0 2023 24 NYJ DL 99 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1 1 0 0 0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 53 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Well you should So should you about 2 decades before you did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bronx said: In the meantime, let's look at our top draftee: Misc Passing Rushing Receiving Rnd Player Pick Pos Yrs From To AP1 PB St wAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD College/Univ 1 Will McDonald 15 DE 1 2023 2023 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 Iowa St. 2 Joe Tippmann 43 OL 1 2023 2023 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 Wisconsin 4 Carter Warren 120 OL 0 0 0 Pittsburgh 5 Israel Abanikanda 143 RB 0 0 0 Pittsburgh 6 Zaire Barnes 184 LB 0 0 0 Western Michigan 6 Jarrick Bernard-Converse 204 CB 0 0 0 LSU 7 Zack Kuntz 220 TE 0 0 0 Old Dom Will McDonald Wilbert McDonald IV 6-3, 236lb (190cm, 107kg) Team: New York Jets Born: June 4, 1999 (Age: 24-121d) College: Iowa St. (College Stats) Weighted Career AV (100-95-...): 0 (17337th overall since 1960) High School: Pulaski (WI), North (WI) Draft: New York Jets in the 1st round (15th overall) of the 2023 NFL Draft. Twitter: @WILL_JUN1OR · Instagram: _.ix.__ 99 Games Def Interceptions Fumbles Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int Yds IntTD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds FRTD Sk Comb Solo Ast TFL QBHits Sfty AV Career 3 0 0 0.0 1 1 0 0 0 2023 24 NYJ DL 99 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1 1 0 0 0 Damn son, come out swinging why don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bronx said: In the meantime, let's look at our top draftee: Misc Passing Rushing Receiving Rnd Player Pick Pos Yrs From To AP1 PB St wAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD College/Univ 1 Will McDonald 15 DE 1 2023 2023 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 Iowa St. 2 Joe Tippmann 43 OL 1 2023 2023 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 Wisconsin 4 Carter Warren 120 OL 0 0 0 Pittsburgh 5 Israel Abanikanda 143 RB 0 0 0 Pittsburgh 6 Zaire Barnes 184 LB 0 0 0 Western Michigan 6 Jarrick Bernard-Converse 204 CB 0 0 0 LSU 7 Zack Kuntz 220 TE 0 0 0 Old Dom Will McDonald Wilbert McDonald IV 6-3, 236lb (190cm, 107kg) Team: New York Jets Born: June 4, 1999 (Age: 24-121d) College: Iowa St. (College Stats) Weighted Career AV (100-95-...): 0 (17337th overall since 1960) High School: Pulaski (WI), North (WI) Draft: New York Jets in the 1st round (15th overall) of the 2023 NFL Draft. Twitter: @WILL_JUN1OR · Instagram: _.ix.__ 99 Games Def Interceptions Fumbles Tackles Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Int Yds IntTD Lng PD FF Fmb FR Yds FRTD Sk Comb Solo Ast TFL QBHits Sfty AV Career 3 0 0 0.0 1 1 0 0 0 2023 24 NYJ DL 99 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 1 1 0 0 0 1) Will McDonald doing nothing so far does not make JSN the correct pick by default. 2) EDGE rusher doing nothing early in his career >>>> slot receiver doing nothing early in his career. One in is a premium position. The other is not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I think Jetsfan80 was just making a point, that it's beyond dumb to say things like "terrible pick; we could have had this kid who could help now" when in reality the guys listed as "help now" players haven't done a damn thing. Not surprising that they get defensive and list McDonald's stats through 3 games, proving they've learned nothing. Draft the guy you think will be the best player. Simple as that. Oh, and don't judge their bust status based on 3 games. That's also a good start. You had people questioning whether Tippmann was a bust before the first preseason game even happened ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, bonkertons said: I think Jetsfan80 was just making a point, that it's beyond dumb to say things like "terrible pick; we could have had this kid who could help now" when in reality the guys listed as "help now" players haven't done a damn thing. One might offer that he "hasn't done a thing" because he's behind two all-pro level stud WR's. And was injured in preseason. He would not be behind two stud all-pro level WR's in NY, he'd be behind one very very good WR in G. Wilson. Circumstances matter. For example, if McDonald had gone somewhere else, he may be starting and have more than 1 tackle on his resume so far this year. 9 minutes ago, bonkertons said: Draft the guy you think will be the best player. Simple as that. I think position and need and what else is available and when in a draft factors in too, but generally, I agree. 9 minutes ago, bonkertons said: Oh, and don't judge their bust status based on 3 games. That's also a good start. Agreed. Fun to keep track of, but not long-term meaningful this early. 9 minutes ago, bonkertons said: You had people questioning whether Tippmann was a bust before the first preseason game even happened ffs. It's bad look for a GM when all your draft picks are sitting the first few games. Doesn't mean they won't be good eventually, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I didn’t like the McDonald pick when it happened and still don’t. Take the BPA at your position of need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Josh Allen is a far better Running Back than JSN is as an NFL receiver. I wanted Tank Dell in the draft 3rd round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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