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Realizing a lot of blame has been thrown his way by Jets fans and the ineptness of the offense, I strongly believe that this season’s failure, thus far, is not on him. Nor can I solely blame Saleh or JD or Zach, though each of them should shoulder more blame than Hackett. 

I realize the hatred of Jets fans towards anyone named Hackett and I was around for his dad’s sh*tshow. I get it. But think about why Hackett was brought in. He is here for one reason and one reason only. Aaron Rodgers.  

We all knew the relationship and success he had with Aaron Rodgers as QB in Green Bay. We knew we needed to bring in a QB. Aaron being on top of the list and luring him with Hackett made perfect sense. Because in reality, it’s Aaron’s offense, not Hackett’s. 

Then Aaron goes down and we are stuck with Aaron’s offense (by way of Hackett). Let’s face it, Zach Wilson, Gardner Minshew, Joshua Dobbs. You name the guy. This was gonna be bad. We saw Hackett with Russell Wilson in Denver and we see Russell Wilson now. Hackett should take the blame there. 

Hackett was brought in to get Aaron and then immediately had to change the offense to fit Zach Wilson. Not an easy task. We don’t need to go there. But still, losing our best offensive lineman and shuffling guys, along with Zach not doing his job, we still beat Buffalo and the Eagles. Hackett hiding behind a ridiculously good defense. 

Exposing Hackett was going to happen. He shouldn’t be a coach in this league. But with Aaron, he’s different. They mesh and Aaron won 2 MVPs in that relationship. So why am I saying this isn’t on Hackett? The same reason I say this isn’t on Zach. They aren’t good and we built this season on the shoulders of Aaron Rodgers. That went down in flames after 4 plays. Hackett is what he is.

Blame JD or Saleh for not having a backup plan. Fine. Blame Zach for being bad. Fine. Blame Hackett for not adjusting the offense quick enough and effectively enough. Fine. But Hackett is the easy fall guy for the issues with the offense, while his entire plan, his one claim to fame, Aaron Rodgers’ success, went down in flames, before the season even started. 

Just like Zach, you can sh*t on a guy for being bad, but Zach wasn’t here to be a starting QB this season. Just like Hackett wasn’t here to be “his” offensive coordinator. Aaron got hurt, and we somehow still have a glimmer of hope, because our defense is so frickin good. 

I understand that Jets fans want someone to blame. We want guys benched or fired or in some cases, injured. But with lots of blame to go around, let’s see if we can somehow win on Sunday and being one week closer to a possible Aaron Rodgers return. 

Aaron is our QB next season (if he doesn’t retire). With Nathaniel Hackett as OC and Robert Saleh as coach. JD should have had a better backup plan, yes. And in my mind, he is the one to blame the most.

Jets fans are looking for someone to blame and Hackett is the easy target, when it all has been some sh*t bad luck. 

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38 minutes ago, JETS SB said:

Realizing a lot of blame has been thrown his way by Jets fans and the ineptness of the offense, I strongly believe that this season’s failure, thus far, is not on him. Nor can I solely blame Saleh or JD or Zach, though each of them should shoulder more blame than Hackett. 

I realize the hatred of Jets fans towards anyone named Hackett and I was around for his dad’s sh*tshow. I get it. But think about why Hackett was brought in. He is here for one reason and one reason only. Aaron Rodgers.  

We all knew the relationship and success he had with Aaron Rodgers as QB in Green Bay. We knew we needed to bring in a QB. Aaron being on top of the list and luring him with Hackett made perfect sense. Because in reality, it’s Aaron’s offense, not Hackett’s. 

Then Aaron goes down and we are stuck with Aaron’s offense (by way of Hackett). Let’s face it, Zach Wilson, Gardner Minshew, Joshua Dobbs. You name the guy. This was gonna be bad. We saw Hackett with Russell Wilson in Denver and we see Russell Wilson now. Hackett should take the blame there. 

Hackett was brought in to get Aaron and then immediately had to change the offense to fit Zach Wilson. Not an easy task. We don’t need to go there. But still, losing our best offensive lineman and shuffling guys, along with Zach not doing his job, we still beat Buffalo and the Eagles. Hackett hiding behind a ridiculously good defense. 

Exposing Hackett was going to happen. He shouldn’t be a coach in this league. But with Aaron, he’s different. They mesh and Aaron won 2 MVPs in that relationship. So why am I saying this isn’t on Hackett? The same reason I say this isn’t on Zach. They aren’t good and we built this season on the shoulders of Aaron Rodgers. That went down in flames after 4 plays. Hackett is what he is.

Blame JD or Saleh for not having a backup plan. Fine. Blame Zach for being bad. Fine. Blame Hackett for not adjusting the offense quick enough and effectively enough. Fine. But Hackett is the easy fall guy for the issues with the offense, while his entire plan, his one claim to fame, Aaron Rodgers’ success, went down in flames, before the season even started. 

Just like Zach, you can sh*t on a guy for being bad, but Zach wasn’t here to be a starting QB this season. Just like Hackett wasn’t here to be “his” offensive coordinator. Aaron got hurt, and we somehow still have a glimmer of hope, because our defense is so frickin good. 

I understand that Jets fans want someone to blame. We want guys benched or fired or in some cases, injured. But with lots of blame to go around, let’s see if we can somehow win on Sunday and being one week closer to a possible Aaron Rodgers return. 

Aaron is our QB next season (if he doesn’t retire). With Nathaniel Hackett as OC and Robert Saleh as coach. JD should have had a better backup plan, yes. And in my mind, he is the one to blame the most.

Jets fans are looking for someone to blame and Hackett is the easy target, when it all has been some sh*t bad luck. 

no he is the obvious target since he runs a poorly coached and ineffective offense.

He should be fired and replaced by some coach under him that can figure out how to run the ball and use play action, and limit zach read to 2 step drops. 

Its really simple to do, could be done tomorrow. 

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There is a piece just posted on Jet X Factor that destroys Hackett on multiple levels.  Maybe they're pushing an agenda, but the all-22 clips they posted are pretty damning.  From play calling, to play design, to player discipline, it's a giant mess.  He is very similar to Gase.  His offense works with a HOF QB under center.  My own opinion is that JD and Saleh know he sucks and know he's here because he's Rodgers BFF.   This is why they continue to trot Wilson out there vs. giving Boyle or Siemian a shot...

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13 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

no he is the obvious target since he runs a poorly coached and ineffective offense.

He should be fired and replaced by some coach under him that can figure out how to run the ball and use play action, and limit zach read to 2 step drops. 

Its really simple to do, could be done tomorrow. 

And you are convinced that Zach would be successful, trying to learn another new offense under another OC? Or do we keep Hackett here, for Aaron Rodgers return and their documented success together?

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15 minutes ago, JETS SB said:

And you are convinced that Zach would be successful, trying to learn another new offense under another OC? Or do we keep Hackett here, for Aaron Rodgers return and their documented success together?

Rodgers isnt staying to learn a new offense. if Hackett goes so does he.

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1 hour ago, JETS SB said:

And you are convinced that Zach would be successful, trying to learn another new offense under another OC? Or do we keep Hackett here, for Aaron Rodgers return and their documented success together?

I'm convinced zach could win games in this system wiht better play calling, but yeah if a brand new coach came in, they could figure it out. 

Rodger can win with any OC.  Rodgers number 1 is a competitor and winner. He would fire hackett himself if he was in charge

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13 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

I'm convinced zach could win games in this system wiht better play calling, but yeah if a brand new coach came in, they could figure it out. 

Rodger can win with any OC.  Rodgers number 1 is a competitor and winner. He would fire hackett himself if he was in charge

Rodgers will be better at getting Garrett and Breece the ball in space to break random big plays but that is about the extent of it because everybody else still sucks. Douglas sucks, Saleh sucks, Hackett sucks, Zach sucks, the line sucks, the skill players suck. Everybody sucks but none of them suck enough to get anybody else off the hook. There's two guys who are good, and they're still good even though everything else is a trash fire. Rodgers just makes three. Nothing solves everything else. Nothing solves anything else really. There are hardly any good players on the offense and they need a lot more. If Izzy comes in and matches Achane's start, how much of a difference is that actually going to make?

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2 minutes ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said:

Rodgers will be better at getting Garrett and Breece the ball in space to break random big plays but that is about the extent of it because everybody else still sucks. Douglas sucks, Saleh sucks, Hackett sucks, Zach sucks, the line sucks, the skill players suck. Everybody sucks but none of them suck enough to get anybody else off the hook. There's two guys who are good, and they're still good even though everything else is a trash fire. Rodgers just makes three. Nothing solves everything else. Nothing solves anything else really. There are hardly any good players on the offense and they need a lot more. If Izzy comes in and matches Achane's start, how much of a difference is that actually going to make?

A gigantic difference.  Then we could split Breece out, which would give us 2 actual receiving threats to go along with an excellent RB.  THAT would absolutely open up the offense.

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Hackett didn't call plays in GB during either of Rodgers MVP seasons when he was on the payroll.  Russell Wilson QBR for his career is right around 100.  It's currently 104 under Payton.  It was 84.4 last year the lowest of his career by a mile under Hackett who called the plays and designed the O.  

Everyone the Jets have brought in to make Rodgers happy is second rate trash including Hackett.  

Hackett's father who was hated here was miles better than his son.   Pennington pre-injury when he was healthy under Hackett's dad led the league in completion percentage, TD percentage and QBR.   

The Jets under JD and Saleh, have a team loaded with talent.  They blew two drafts and after a great draft last year look like a team that will draft to the NFL mean at best going forward.  That's okay.  The signing of Rodgers was a hail mary.  They were trying to break the lossing streak with one bold move.  So far a huge fail that has set the organization back further. 

 

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36 minutes ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said:

Rodgers will be better at getting Garrett and Breece the ball in space to break random big plays but that is about the extent of it because everybody else still sucks. Douglas sucks, Saleh sucks, Hackett sucks, Zach sucks, the line sucks, the skill players suck. Everybody sucks but none of them suck enough to get anybody else off the hook. There's two guys who are good, and they're still good even though everything else is a trash fire. Rodgers just makes three. Nothing solves everything else. Nothing solves anything else really. There are hardly any good players on the offense and they need a lot more. If Izzy comes in and matches Achane's start, how much of a difference is that actually going to make?

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Russel Wilson with hackett - looks like the worst QB running the worst offense in the league.

Russel wilson with a real offensive coach - might make the pro bowl.

Adding Hackett was another amongst many many monstrous douglas/saleh blunders putting every one of their eggs in the Rodgers basket and then having him last 4 snaps.

Not one team would have given hackett and oc interview after his disaster in denver, he would have had to start over by being a QB coach or oc in college.

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3 hours ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said:

Rodgers will be better at getting Garrett and Breece the ball in space to break random big plays but that is about the extent of it because everybody else still sucks. Douglas sucks, Saleh sucks, Hackett sucks, Zach sucks, the line sucks, the skill players suck. Everybody sucks but none of them suck enough to get anybody else off the hook. There's two guys who are good, and they're still good even though everything else is a trash fire. Rodgers just makes three. Nothing solves everything else. Nothing solves anything else really. There are hardly any good players on the offense and they need a lot more. If Izzy comes in and matches Achane's start, how much of a difference is that actually going to make?

Agree that he would be getting them the ball, but not just in space. tow tap TD's, play action, on routes that zach doesnt see etc.

Douglas built a great roster from the crap heap, he does not suck

Saleh coached the hell out of this team, set up new culture, new def minded mindset, tough etc - he does not suck he is the first credible HC we have had in years

Hackett - he certainly does seem like crap - poor offense, not just qb - we are never ready nor have a decent game plan - he is adam gase 2.0. Denver at least was smart enough to can him after 1 season.

Zach - he does suck sure, well i think he is just limited. He can hit all the throws - he just needs it to be the first or second option and he doesnt have very good vision. But with our roster he shoudl be capable of winning 10 games easy. Shoudl be game planned as a game manager, but Hackett refuses so it is what it is.

The line doesnt suck, this is just as lazy as the rest of your comments. Mitchell and the other guys have been playing great for waht they are talent wise. When our qb gets it out nfl average time they are fine. They are not a good line that can cover for too much but they are serviceable.

Skill players on both sides are great and we have many of them whether you are talking wilson, hall, izzy, to williams, sauce, reed etc...Im not sure what you are talkign about here. 

Ok this is where you really lost me, you think is izzy has an achane type of production that would not help? the guys who literalliy had liek the best start of any player ever? that would not help? good god man.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Russel Wilson with hackett - looks like the worst QB running the worst offense in the league.

Russel wilson with a real offensive coach - might make the pro bowl.

Adding Hackett was another amongst many many monstrous douglas/saleh blunders putting every one of their eggs in the Rodgers basket and then having him last 4 snaps.

Not one team would have given hackett and oc interview after his disaster in denver, he would have had to start over by being a QB coach or oc in college.

*Fixed it for you but you are 100 percent right on hackett, rodger buddy, literally got him hurt because of his dumb scheme. let the wolves come after him with no help. Just such a stupid thing and first of many indicators that hackett is terrible at calling an offense. At some point rodgers is going to realize hackett sucks and cost him his year

 

Adding Hackett was ONE monstrous douglas/saleh blunder since we lost rodgers who jsut wanted his buddy on the headset.

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Both Saleh and Hackett have respective schemes that only work when the players can elevate the system. They aren't creative and neither have a lot of creativity to adjust before or during games. 

Saleh's defense first paradigm limits valuable tools the offense could employ to perform better. Without a top tier QB under center, it's a paradigm that will always produce a higher rate of three and outs and FGs. 

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3 hours ago, JetsMetsRangers said:

Amazing how this great roster JD created we still lose a ton and are historically bad offensively.........Not looking good in the future either, no 2nd round pick......Ol a disaster.....Wr receiver group poor.......Can't wait.......lol!......Who we picking in the draft this year Will McDonalds brother......;)

 

In any other career choice, scoring 50% on your evals is failure. 

If your boss is Woody Johnson, though, you're good. 

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6 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Russel Wilson with hackett - looks like the worst QB running the worst offense in the league.

Russel wilson with a real offensive coach - might make the pro bowl.

Adding Hackett was another amongst many many monstrous douglas/saleh blunders putting every one of their eggs in the Rodgers basket and then having him last 4 snaps.

Not one team would have given hackett and oc interview after his disaster in denver, he would have had to start over by being a QB coach or oc in college.

Russ is not making the Pro Bowl. You think he's going to outplay Tagovailoa, Stroud, Jackson, Mahomes, Burrow, or even Josh Allen?

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1 hour ago, Hex said:

Russ is not making the Pro Bowl. You think he's going to outplay Tagovailoa, Stroud, Jackson, Mahomes, Burrow, or even Josh Allen?

18 tds to 4 ints, if the broncos rally and get close to or make the playoffs he will be right there.   Also, every one and their dog makes the pro bowl.

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10 hours ago, Biggs said:

Hackett didn't call plays in GB during either of Rodgers MVP seasons when he was on the payroll.  Russell Wilson QBR for his career is right around 100.  It's currently 104 under Payton.  It was 84.4 last year the lowest of his career by a mile under Hackett who called the plays and designed the O.  

Everyone the Jets have brought in to make Rodgers happy is second rate trash including Hackett.  

Hackett's father who was hated here was miles better than his son.   Pennington pre-injury when he was healthy under Hackett's dad led the league in completion percentage, TD percentage and QBR.   

The Jets under JD and Saleh, have a team loaded with talent.  They blew two drafts and after a great draft last year look like a team that will draft to the NFL mean at best going forward.  That's okay.  The signing of Rodgers was a hail mary.  They were trying to break the lossing streak with one bold move.  So far a huge fail that has set the organization back further. 

 

Loaded with talent?  Not on offense.

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