Popular Post OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2023 Any smart GM (oh sh*t) will need to make some easy and tough decisions to rebuild this offense. 1. Mosley: $21.5M cap hit next year; $17M salary; $10.5M dead money. Unless he takes a significant pay cut, money needs to be reallocated to offense. Jets save $16.25M by releasing post June 1 Market for avg MLB = $5-6M per year 2. Tomlinson: $18.9M cap hit next year; $12.6M salary; $10.7m dead money. Classic top paid, bottom performer for his position. Jets save $13.5M post June 1 cut Market for avg Guard = $5-6M per year 3. Uzomah: $11.2M cap hit next year; $8M salary; $5.9M dead money. Jets save $8.3M post June 1 cut #3 TE might already be on practice squad. ————————————————————— Jets can save up to a net $28M in 2024 by making these moves after replacing Mosley and Tomlinson in FA. In fact, this assumes we upgrade Tomlinson with a better (average) guard. This also assumes Mosley’s replacement isn’t on the roster; otherwise savings can be higher. It’s not a question of is Mosley good or how less inept Tomlinson is than our other guards. It’s a question of how overpaid they are for non premium positions and how to fund the acquisition of 3 premium positions of GREAT NEED … 1 WR and 2 OTs; only 1 of which will be via round 1. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2023 Mosely and tomlinson wont be going anywhere. We are sacrificing the future for the 2024 season. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 They're running this entire thing back next year and just going to use injuries to scapegoat this season. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Mosely and tomlinson wont be going anywhere. We are sacrificing the future for the 2024 season. Get the feeling everything hinges on rodgers’ health. And if he doesn’t stay healthy everyone is gone. Would be a shame not to draft a qb here so that the cupboard is so bare but that’s how they roll 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Just now, JiF said: They're running this entire thing back next year and just going to use injuries to scapegoat this season. It only will work this year. If they don’t have a viable qb backup next season and rodgers misses time, and they can’t score again, that’s actually worse than what happened this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 mOsLeY iS tHe LeAdEr oF tHe dEfEnCe He’s going nowhere 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: It only will work this year. If they don’t have a viable qb backup next season and rodgers misses time, and they can’t score again, that’s actually worse than what happened this year. Who knows what they'll do at back up QB. Joe Douglas handling of the QB position has been a comedy of errors. Not many GM's handle the QB position the way he has and continue to have employment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, oatmeal said: mOsLeY iS tHe LeAdEr oF tHe dEfEnCe He’s going nowhere I only want him back if he can be extended and have a $25 million cap hit next year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Mosley- Pick up Shaq Leonard off waivers. There you have your Mosley replacement Becton - tag him or sign him to a one year extension at reasonable money. He lost leverage with the latest injury Uzomoah- bye Tomlinson - bye we can sign both Zeitler and Trent Brown in free agency. That will fix the OL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted November 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2023 Getting Becton finally off the roster will be a win 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, JiF said: Who knows what they'll do at back up QB. Joe Douglas handling of the QB position has been a comedy of errors. Not many GM's handle the QB position the way he has and continue to have employment. Draft a Goddamned qb in round 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I won’t miss any of those guys lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 The Jets are projected to have roughly $15M in cap space before any moves using Spotrac’s forecast of a new $240.5M team cap + unused rollover cap from this year. Let’s say around $8M after the rookie pool. The OP could add $28M to that which gets us to $36M in 2024 cap space. As context, Davante Adams would cost $16M in 2024 if traded. He realistically has only 1 more year given a team ‘out’ on his backloaded contract so the Jets would want to redo his contract if they went that route. ——————————————————————- It was dumb for the Jets to bring back and pay Carl Lawson his millions this year, especially after drafting McDonald. Let’s not make the same boneheaded decisions this off-season. In other moves, Becton will move on after a decent year. No franchise tag, no long term contract. Lazard will be back because of salary cap ramifications (no savings) and compete for WR #3. Huff will be a tough decision because of the need to afford a WR and OT that come via free agency and possibly a trade. It would be wise to get a good read on McDonald these remaining games just like it would have been wise to get a better read on Huff at the end of last year (before investing a #1 draft pick at his position). UFA Whitehead has let up the most TDs of any safety this year and will most likely be replaced. His partner Adams will likely be given another year. Only so much money to go around. My hope is a talented young guy like Winfrey can replace both Woods & Jefferson. Does he have his act together? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: The Jets are projected to have roughly $15M in cap space before any moves using Spotrac’s forecast of a new $240.5M team cap + unused rollover cap from this year. Let’s say around $8M after the rookie pool. The OP could add $28M to that which gets us to $36M in 2024 cap space. As context, Davante Adams would cost $16M in 2024 if traded. He realistically has only 1 more year given a team ‘out’ on his backloaded contract so the Jets would want to redo his contract if they went that route. ——————————————————————- It was dumb for the Jets to bring back and pay Carl Lawson his millions this year, especially after drafting McDonald. Let’s not make the same boneheaded decisions this off-season. In other moves, Becton will move on after a decent year. No franchise tag, no long term contract. Lazard will be back because of salary cap ramifications (no savings) and compete for WR #3. Huff will be a tough decision because of the need to afford a WR and OT that come via free agency and possibly a trade. It would be wise to get a good read on McDonald these remaining games just like it would have been wise to get a better read on Huff at the end of last year (before investing a #1 draft pick at his position). UFA Whitehead has let up the most TDs of any safety this year and will most likely be replaced. His partner Adams will likely be given another year. Only so much money to go around. My hope is a talented young guy like Winfrey can replace both Woods & Jefferson. Does he have his act together? We can pickup Derek Barnett off waivers if we don’t resign or tag Huff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Tomlinson is absolutely GARBAGE. Horrible pickup by JD. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Mosley has had an outstanding season. We should try to bring him back on a reduced contract. However, it’s great that Quincy has emerged as a premier young defender, gives us some flexibility if we can’t work out something with Mosley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: We can pickup Derek Barnett off waivers if we don’t resign or tag Huff Yeah, I don’t think they are going to resign huff. Most of the money will go to o-line and wr. Will Mac will need to play next year. He will take huff’s 3rd down role at the minimum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, JiF said: They're running this entire thing back next year and just going to use injuries to scapegoat this season. They might .. lol. They haven’t proven any ability to make tough decisions in a timely way. But in reality, they’ll need to afford an OT (even if it’s Becton) and a WR #2 (some signs point to Adams). The $8M in available cap net rookie pool won’t cut it. It would be criminal to continue to restructure contracts and push money into the future when they’ll need to start extending some talented players, which means they’ll probably do that. I have no faith, just saying that’s what a good GM would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Draft a Goddamned qb in round 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 41 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Any smart GM (oh sh*t) will need to make some easy and tough decisions to rebuild this offense. 1. Mosley: $21.5M cap hit next year; $17M salary; $10.5M dead money. Unless he takes a significant pay cut, money needs to be reallocated to offense. Jets save $16.25M by releasing post June 1 Market for avg MLB = $5-6M per year 2. Tomlinson: $18.9M cap hit next year; $12.6M salary; $10.7m dead money. Classic top paid, bottom performer for his position. Jets save $13.5M post June 1 cut Market for avg Guard = $5-6M per year 3. Uzomah: $11.2M cap hit next year; $8M salary; $5.9M dead money. Jets save $8.3M post June 1 cut #3 TE might already be on practice squad. ————————————————————— Jets can save up to a net $28M in 2024 by making these moves after replacing Mosley and Tomlinson in FA. In fact, this assumes we upgrade Tomlinson with a better (average) guard. This also assumes Mosley’s replacement isn’t on the roster; otherwise savings can be higher. It’s not a question of is Mosley good or how less inept Tomlinson is than our other guards. It’s a question of how overpaid they are for non premium positions and how to fund the acquisition of 3 premium positions of GREAT NEED … 1 WR and 2 OTs; only 1 of which will be via round 1. I think the problem with automatically launching Mosley is that they don’t really have a current player who can step right in. Maybe Sherwood can do the job or suratt or even Quincy Williams. The rest of those ,Tomlinson, uzomah, really haven’t done much and should be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Why isn’t Carl Lawson on this list? ps The Mosley contract is insane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw89 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 We have to clear as much cap space as possible to bring in as many washed up ex packers we can to keep Rodgers happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Mosely and tomlinson wont be going anywhere. We are sacrificing the future for the 2024 season. and now we know both will be cut.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Mosley has been holding this roster back for years imagine where that money could have gone 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 3 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: Why isn’t Carl Lawson on this list? ps The Mosley contract is insane. Because he’s a FA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Draft a Goddamned qb in round 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Any smart GM (oh sh*t) will need to make some easy and tough decisions to rebuild this offense. 1. Mosley: $21.5M cap hit next year; $17M salary; $10.5M dead money. Unless he takes a significant pay cut, money needs to be reallocated to offense. Jets save $16.25M by releasing post June 1 Market for avg MLB = $5-6M per year 2. Tomlinson: $18.9M cap hit next year; $12.6M salary; $10.7m dead money. Classic top paid, bottom performer for his position. Jets save $13.5M post June 1 cut Market for avg Guard = $5-6M per year 3. Uzomah: $11.2M cap hit next year; $8M salary; $5.9M dead money. Jets save $8.3M post June 1 cut #3 TE might already be on practice squad. ————————————————————— Jets can save up to a net $28M in 2024 by making these moves after replacing Mosley and Tomlinson in FA. In fact, this assumes we upgrade Tomlinson with a better (average) guard. This also assumes Mosley’s replacement isn’t on the roster; otherwise savings can be higher. It’s not a question of is Mosley good or how less inept Tomlinson is than our other guards. It’s a question of how overpaid they are for non premium positions and how to fund the acquisition of 3 premium positions of GREAT NEED … 1 WR and 2 OTs; only 1 of which will be via round 1.FYI you can only designate two players as June 1st cutsSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherwiseHappyinLife Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, mfmartin said: FYI you can only designate two players as June 1st cuts Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Good call out. Didn’t know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 6 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Any smart GM (oh sh*t) will need to make some easy and tough decisions to rebuild this offense. 1. Mosley: $21.5M cap hit next year; $17M salary; $10.5M dead money. Unless he takes a significant pay cut, money needs to be reallocated to offense. Jets save $16.25M by releasing post June 1 Market for avg MLB = $5-6M per year 2. Tomlinson: $18.9M cap hit next year; $12.6M salary; $10.7m dead money. Classic top paid, bottom performer for his position. Jets save $13.5M post June 1 cut Market for avg Guard = $5-6M per year 3. Uzomah: $11.2M cap hit next year; $8M salary; $5.9M dead money. Jets save $8.3M post June 1 cut #3 TE might already be on practice squad. ————————————————————— Jets can save up to a net $28M in 2024 by making these moves after replacing Mosley and Tomlinson in FA. In fact, this assumes we upgrade Tomlinson with a better (average) guard. This also assumes Mosley’s replacement isn’t on the roster; otherwise savings can be higher. It’s not a question of is Mosley good or how less inept Tomlinson is than our other guards. It’s a question of how overpaid they are for non premium positions and how to fund the acquisition of 3 premium positions of GREAT NEED … 1 WR and 2 OTs; only 1 of which will be via round 1. Look at it this way: they save what they don't pay them. Don't worry about before or after June 1st; they can just restructure someone else to hit later instead of '24. Doesn't matter if DJ Reed's cap # is $16MM in '24 and $0 after that, or if fluff void years are added to make it closer to $5MM in '24 and the balance a year later; meanwhile they can cut ties with other players earlier to hit more in '24 than '25. Ditto Quinnen Williams, JFM (if he's kept w/o a pay cut), or anyone else they keep who's got a higher '24 cap figure. It makes no difference cap-wise in the end (the $ doesn't care whose name it's attached to); the "dead cap" number for anyone you're cutting was going to hit whether he's here or not, and whether he's cut earlier or later. Just saying if it's easier to read those cap charts, as long as the $ isn't guaranteed, the amount they save is the amount they're choosing not to pay. So that'd be $17MM for Mosley, $8MM for Uzomah, and $13MM for Tomlinson = $38MM saved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 39 minutes ago, mfmartin said: FYI you can only designate two players as June 1st cuts Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 33 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Good call out. Didn’t know that. Doesn't really matter anyway; see post above this. They're not going to bypass any needs for new players and keep 8-figure base salaries for anyone (Reed, JFM, Quinnen, Lazard). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Mosley isn't going anywhere. This defense is coming back intact. Tomlinson is an issue, he has t lived up to the contract. But he stays healthy. With all the other openings on the line, he might be back after a pay cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Plen T said: Mosley has been holding this roster back for years imagine where that money could have gone Lol. He is the leader of a young defense. The contract is too much but he's not holding Anything back. Lazard, Cobb, tomlisons, a few overpaid right ends. They would have just spent that $ poorly Anyhow. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 17 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said: Any smart GM (oh sh*t) will need to make some easy and tough decisions to rebuild this offense. 1. Mosley: $21.5M cap hit next year; $17M salary; $10.5M dead money. Unless he takes a significant pay cut, money needs to be reallocated to offense. Jets save $16.25M by releasing post June 1 Market for avg MLB = $5-6M per year 2. Tomlinson: $18.9M cap hit next year; $12.6M salary; $10.7m dead money. Classic top paid, bottom performer for his position. Jets save $13.5M post June 1 cut Market for avg Guard = $5-6M per year 3. Uzomah: $11.2M cap hit next year; $8M salary; $5.9M dead money. Jets save $8.3M post June 1 cut #3 TE might already be on practice squad. ————————————————————— Jets can save up to a net $28M in 2024 by making these moves after replacing Mosley and Tomlinson in FA. In fact, this assumes we upgrade Tomlinson with a better (average) guard. This also assumes Mosley’s replacement isn’t on the roster; otherwise savings can be higher. It’s not a question of is Mosley good or how less inept Tomlinson is than our other guards. It’s a question of how overpaid they are for non premium positions and how to fund the acquisition of 3 premium positions of GREAT NEED … 1 WR and 2 OTs; only 1 of which will be via round 1. Money money money money. Good breakdown. I can see the OL taking some sort of shape but can even be upgraded. LT ? - LG Tippman - C MGovern - RG AVT - RT Becton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Maynard13 said: Money money money money. Good breakdown. I can see the OL taking some sort of shape but can even be upgraded. LT ? - LG Tippman - C MGovern - RG AVT - RT Becton. Sign Zeitler to play LG and Trent Brown to play RT. Keep Becton at LT on a one year prove it deal so he can try to get a payday in 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Sign Zeitler to play LG and Trent Brown to play RT. Keep Becton at LT on a one year prove it deal so he can try to get a payday in 2025 Zeitler will be 34. That’s old for an OL. And Trent Brown will cost a fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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