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4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Mosely and tomlinson wont be going anywhere.  We are sacrificing the future for the 2024 season.

Get the feeling everything hinges on rodgers’ health.  And if he doesn’t stay healthy everyone is gone.  Would be a shame not to draft a qb here so that the cupboard is so bare but that’s how they roll 

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Just now, JiF said:

They're running this entire thing back next year and just going to use injuries to scapegoat this season.  

It only will work this year.  If they don’t have a viable qb backup next season and rodgers misses time, and they can’t score again, that’s actually worse than what happened this year.  

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1 minute ago, Augustiniak said:

It only will work this year.  If they don’t have a viable qb backup next season and rodgers misses time, and they can’t score again, that’s actually worse than what happened this year.  

Who knows what they'll do at back up QB.  Joe Douglas handling of the QB position has been a comedy of errors.  Not many GM's handle the QB position the way he has and continue to have employment. 

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The Jets are projected to have roughly $15M in cap space before any moves using Spotrac’s forecast of a new $240.5M team cap + unused rollover cap from this year.

Let’s say around $8M after the rookie pool.

The OP could add $28M to that which gets us to $36M in 2024 cap space.  As context, Davante Adams would cost $16M in 2024 if traded.  He realistically has only 1 more year given a team ‘out’ on his backloaded contract so the Jets would want to redo his contract if they went that route.

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It was dumb for the Jets to bring back and pay Carl Lawson his millions this year, especially after drafting McDonald.  Let’s not make the same boneheaded decisions this off-season.

In other moves, Becton will move on after a decent year.  No franchise tag, no long term contract.

Lazard will be back because of salary cap ramifications (no savings) and compete for WR #3.

Huff will be a tough decision because of the need to afford a WR and OT that come via free agency and possibly a trade.  It would be wise to get a good read on McDonald these remaining games just like it would have been wise to get a better read on Huff at the end of last year (before investing a #1 draft pick at his position).

UFA Whitehead has let up the most TDs of any safety this year and will most likely be replaced.  His partner Adams will likely be given another year.  Only so much money to go around.

My hope is a talented young guy like Winfrey can replace both Woods & Jefferson.  Does he have his act together?

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5 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

The Jets are projected to have roughly $15M in cap space before any moves using Spotrac’s forecast of a new $240.5M team cap + unused rollover cap from this year.

Let’s say around $8M after the rookie pool.

The OP could add $28M to that which gets us to $36M in 2024 cap space.  As context, Davante Adams would cost $16M in 2024 if traded.  He realistically has only 1 more year given a team ‘out’ on his backloaded contract so the Jets would want to redo his contract if they went that route.

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It was dumb for the Jets to bring back and pay Carl Lawson his millions this year, especially after drafting McDonald.  Let’s not make the same boneheaded decisions this off-season.

In other moves, Becton will move on after a decent year.  No franchise tag, no long term contract.

Lazard will be back because of salary cap ramifications (no savings) and compete for WR #3.

Huff will be a tough decision because of the need to afford a WR and OT that come via free agency and possibly a trade.  It would be wise to get a good read on McDonald these remaining games just like it would have been wise to get a better read on Huff at the end of last year (before investing a #1 draft pick at his position).

UFA Whitehead has let up the most TDs of any safety this year and will most likely be replaced.  His partner Adams will likely be given another year.  Only so much money to go around.

My hope is a talented young guy like Winfrey can replace both Woods & Jefferson.  Does he have his act together?

We can pickup Derek Barnett off waivers if we don’t resign or tag Huff

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2 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

We can pickup Derek Barnett off waivers if we don’t resign or tag Huff

Yeah, I don’t think they are going to resign huff. Most of the money will go to o-line and wr. Will Mac will need to play next year. He will take huff’s 3rd down role at the minimum.

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22 minutes ago, JiF said:

They're running this entire thing back next year and just going to use injuries to scapegoat this season.  

They might ..  lol.  They haven’t proven any ability to make tough decisions in a timely way.

But in reality, they’ll need to afford an OT (even if it’s Becton) and a WR #2 (some signs point to Adams).

The $8M in available cap net rookie pool won’t cut it.

It would be criminal to continue to restructure contracts and push money into the future when they’ll need to start extending some talented players, which means they’ll probably do that.

I have no faith, just saying that’s what a good GM would do.  

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41 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:


Any smart GM (oh sh*t) will need to make some easy and tough decisions to rebuild this offense.
 

1. Mosley:  $21.5M cap hit next year; $17M salary; $10.5M dead money.  Unless he takes a significant pay cut, money needs to be reallocated to offense.  Jets save $16.25M by releasing post June 1

Market for avg MLB = $5-6M per year

2. Tomlinson:  $18.9M cap hit next year; $12.6M salary; $10.7m dead money.  Classic top paid, bottom performer for his position.  Jets save $13.5M post June 1 cut

Market for avg Guard = $5-6M per year

3. Uzomah:  $11.2M cap hit next year; $8M salary; $5.9M dead money.  Jets save $8.3M post June 1 cut

#3 TE might already be on practice squad.

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Jets can save up to a net $28M in 2024 by making these moves after replacing Mosley and Tomlinson in FA.  In fact, this assumes we upgrade Tomlinson with a better (average) guard.  This also assumes Mosley’s replacement isn’t on the roster; otherwise savings can be higher.

It’s not a question of is Mosley good or how less inept Tomlinson is than our other guards.  It’s a question of how overpaid they are for non premium positions and how to fund the acquisition of 3 premium positions of GREAT NEED … 1 WR and 2 OTs; only 1 of which will be via round 1.

I think the problem with automatically launching Mosley is that they don’t really have a current player who can step right in.  Maybe Sherwood can do the job or suratt or even Quincy Williams.  The rest of those ,Tomlinson, uzomah, really haven’t done much and should be replaced.

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Any smart GM (oh sh*t) will need to make some easy and tough decisions to rebuild this offense.
 
1. Mosley:  $21.5M cap hit next year; $17M salary; $10.5M dead money.  Unless he takes a significant pay cut, money needs to be reallocated to offense.  Jets save $16.25M by releasing post June 1
Market for avg MLB = $5-6M per year
2. Tomlinson:  $18.9M cap hit next year; $12.6M salary; $10.7m dead money.  Classic top paid, bottom performer for his position.  Jets save $13.5M post June 1 cut
Market for avg Guard = $5-6M per year
3. Uzomah:  $11.2M cap hit next year; $8M salary; $5.9M dead money.  Jets save $8.3M post June 1 cut
#3 TE might already be on practice squad.
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Jets can save up to a net $28M in 2024 by making these moves after replacing Mosley and Tomlinson in FA.  In fact, this assumes we upgrade Tomlinson with a better (average) guard.  This also assumes Mosley’s replacement isn’t on the roster; otherwise savings can be higher.
It’s not a question of is Mosley good or how less inept Tomlinson is than our other guards.  It’s a question of how overpaid they are for non premium positions and how to fund the acquisition of 3 premium positions of GREAT NEED … 1 WR and 2 OTs; only 1 of which will be via round 1.


FYI you can only designate two players as June 1st cuts


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6 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:


Any smart GM (oh sh*t) will need to make some easy and tough decisions to rebuild this offense.
 

1. Mosley:  $21.5M cap hit next year; $17M salary; $10.5M dead money.  Unless he takes a significant pay cut, money needs to be reallocated to offense.  Jets save $16.25M by releasing post June 1

Market for avg MLB = $5-6M per year

2. Tomlinson:  $18.9M cap hit next year; $12.6M salary; $10.7m dead money.  Classic top paid, bottom performer for his position.  Jets save $13.5M post June 1 cut

Market for avg Guard = $5-6M per year

3. Uzomah:  $11.2M cap hit next year; $8M salary; $5.9M dead money.  Jets save $8.3M post June 1 cut

#3 TE might already be on practice squad.

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Jets can save up to a net $28M in 2024 by making these moves after replacing Mosley and Tomlinson in FA.  In fact, this assumes we upgrade Tomlinson with a better (average) guard.  This also assumes Mosley’s replacement isn’t on the roster; otherwise savings can be higher.

It’s not a question of is Mosley good or how less inept Tomlinson is than our other guards.  It’s a question of how overpaid they are for non premium positions and how to fund the acquisition of 3 premium positions of GREAT NEED … 1 WR and 2 OTs; only 1 of which will be via round 1.

Look at it this way: they save what they don't pay them. Don't worry about before or after June 1st; they can just restructure someone else to hit later instead of '24. Doesn't matter if DJ Reed's cap # is $16MM in '24 and $0 after that, or if fluff void years are added to make it closer to $5MM in '24 and the balance a year later; meanwhile they can cut ties with other players earlier to hit more in '24 than '25. Ditto Quinnen Williams, JFM (if he's kept w/o a pay cut), or anyone else they keep who's got a higher '24 cap figure. It makes no difference cap-wise in the end (the $ doesn't care whose name it's attached to); the "dead cap" number for anyone you're cutting was going to hit whether he's here or not, and whether he's cut earlier or later.

Just saying if it's easier to read those cap charts, as long as the $ isn't guaranteed, the amount they save is the amount they're choosing not to pay. So that'd be $17MM for Mosley, $8MM for Uzomah, and $13MM for Tomlinson = $38MM saved. 

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39 minutes ago, mfmartin said:

 


FYI you can only designate two players as June 1st cuts


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33 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

Good call out.  Didn’t know that. 

Doesn't really matter anyway; see post above this. 

They're not going to bypass any needs for new players and keep 8-figure base salaries for anyone (Reed, JFM, Quinnen, Lazard).

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7 hours ago, Plen T said:

Mosley has been holding this roster back for years

imagine where that money could have gone 

 

Lol. He is the leader of a young defense. The contract is too much but he's not holding Anything back.

Lazard, Cobb, tomlisons, a few overpaid right ends. They would have just spent that $ poorly Anyhow.

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17 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:


Any smart GM (oh sh*t) will need to make some easy and tough decisions to rebuild this offense.
 

1. Mosley:  $21.5M cap hit next year; $17M salary; $10.5M dead money.  Unless he takes a significant pay cut, money needs to be reallocated to offense.  Jets save $16.25M by releasing post June 1

Market for avg MLB = $5-6M per year

2. Tomlinson:  $18.9M cap hit next year; $12.6M salary; $10.7m dead money.  Classic top paid, bottom performer for his position.  Jets save $13.5M post June 1 cut

Market for avg Guard = $5-6M per year

3. Uzomah:  $11.2M cap hit next year; $8M salary; $5.9M dead money.  Jets save $8.3M post June 1 cut

#3 TE might already be on practice squad.

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Jets can save up to a net $28M in 2024 by making these moves after replacing Mosley and Tomlinson in FA.  In fact, this assumes we upgrade Tomlinson with a better (average) guard.  This also assumes Mosley’s replacement isn’t on the roster; otherwise savings can be higher.

It’s not a question of is Mosley good or how less inept Tomlinson is than our other guards.  It’s a question of how overpaid they are for non premium positions and how to fund the acquisition of 3 premium positions of GREAT NEED … 1 WR and 2 OTs; only 1 of which will be via round 1.

Money money money money. Good breakdown. I can see the OL taking some sort of shape but can even be upgraded. LT ? -  LG Tippman - C MGovern - RG AVT - RT Becton. 

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2 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

Money money money money. Good breakdown. I can see the OL taking some sort of shape but can even be upgraded. LT ? -  LG Tippman - C MGovern - RG AVT - RT Becton. 

Sign Zeitler to play LG and Trent Brown to play RT.  Keep Becton at LT on a one year prove it deal so he can try to get a payday in 2025

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