Jets Trade for Aaron Rodgers has Chance to be one of Worst Ever

[JetNation]

Even after their trade for Aaron Rodgers, the New York Jets are an absolute shambles.  The Jets currently have one of the worst offenses in NFL history, and this may not be rock bottom.  There are so many layers to the Rodgers deal that the trade to bring him here could go down as one of the worst in team history.

First and foremost is the obvious.  Getting injured after just four plays meant this season was over before it really started.  Sure there were some moments that offered Jets fans some degree of hope, but deep down everyone knew that this team wasn’t going to do anything more than possibly compete for a playoff spot if everything broke their way.  But that wasn’t to be.

Then of course there are Rodgers’ many wealthy friends who tagged along with the future Hall of Famer on Woody Johnson’s dime.  Wide receivers Allen Lazard and Randall Cobb, offensive tackle Robert Turner, backup quarterback Tim Boyle and to a degree, running back Dalvin Cook were all brought in to get Rodgers what he wanted.  In all, it cost the Jets five roster spots and over $15 million for this season.

Next season they’ll all be gone except for Lazard, who would incur an $18 million dead cap hit if he were to be let go after this season.  But with the authority it appears Rodgers wields at 1 Jets Drive, is there any chance Lazard would be let go anyway?

Speaking of next season, that’s when Rodgers, who cost the Jets two second-round picks and over $100 million in all, will be turning 39-years-old and coming off of a ruptured achilles.  If you’d like to see the list of quarterbacks who fit that description and played at a high level soon thereafter, we went to the trouble of compiling one for you.

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But the silver lining here is that the Jets 2023 season is over, but it looks as if they’ll be in position to take Rodgers’ replacement with a top 8 pick in a deep class, right?  Not so fast.

If Rodgers tells Woody Johnson and Joe Douglas that he wants a weapon to throw to or a beefed up offensive line early on, the team may have to wait until next year’s draft, by which time Rodgers may have walked away, to grab a QB.  And there the Jets will find themselves.  A franchise without a QB and with limited cap space.

Why the limited cap space?  By that time, the Jets 2022 draft class could very easily be looking for new contracts.  That’s right.  Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson and Breece Hall could come calling for new deals.  A trio that will likely command somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 million collectively.

And oh by the way, it’s around that time that Aaron Rodgers, according to overthecap.com, will come with a cap hit of $63,000,000 dollars.  Of course there will be some smoke and mirrors salary cap gymnastics to work through, but even after Rodgers retires, the Jets are going to be feeling the pain of his enormous salary.

To top it all off, the Jets do not at the moment and will not over the next season or two have an offensive coordinator who is worthy of a job in the NFL.  Paul Hackett’s son Nate has shown time and again throughout his career that he’s not very good at his job.  Up to this point in time, his most notable achievements are being the son of a former coordinator and forming a bond with Aaron Rodgers as one of the QB’s best friends.

Not exactly the reason Jets fans were hoping they’d be talking about Aaron Rodgers for years to come, but barring a miracle, the legacy of the Rodgers deal will not be recalled fondly.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Ron Rico]

Then of course there are Rodgers’ many wealthy friends who tagged along with the future Hall of Famer on Woody Johnson’s dime.  Wide receivers Allen Lazard and Randall Cobb, offensive tackle Robert Turner, backup quarterback Tim Boyle and to a degree, running back Dalvin Cook were all brought in to get Rodgers what he wanted.  In all, it cost the Jets five roster spots and over $15 million for this season.

[T0mShane]

Who attempts this take with Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson still walking the earth? Jets gave up two 2’s and $75 mil for a first ballot Hall of Famer.

[bitonti]

This reads like a post I made 6 months ago and got 12 thumbs downs for 

[bitonti]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Who attempts this take with Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson still walking the earth? Jets gave up two 2’s and $75 mil for a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Deshaun Watson is 28 he'll be back 

Meanwhile Aaron rodgers is older than 99 percent of nfl players and by all rational measure should have retired 

[Ron Rico]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Who attempts this take with Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson still walking the earth? Jets gave up two 2’s and $75 mil for a first ballot Hall of Famer.

At this point, I can't defend the trade. I have no "hope" LMFAO or faith that the trade will redeem itself in 2024. I see a 6 win season, next year, even if Rodgers actually starts in 50% of the games. 

JD is a fraud, Saleh's a fraud, they don't have a clue how to fix the O-line, and even if JD could get quality players, they need time to mesh. O-lines need chemistry and you just don't get that overnight. 

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, bitonti said:

Deshaun Watson is 28 he'll be back 

Meanwhile Aaron rodgers is older than 99 percent of nfl players and by all rational measure should have retired 

Watson’s shoulder might be shot and he’s holding a fully guaranteed $230 million dollar contract. The Browns traded three 1’s for him and he looks an awful lot like a dude who doesn’t want to play football anymore. I say this as a guy who traded decades of internet credibility to advocate for bringing Watson here. Rodgers, by comparison, was like flipping a sixth for a seventh. 

[T0mShane]

2 minutes ago, Ron Rico said:

At this point, I can't defend the trade. I have no "hope" LMFAO or faith that the trade will redeem itself in 2024. I see a 6 win season, next year, even if Rodgers actually starts in 50% of the games. 

JD is a fraud, Saleh's a fraud, they don't have a clue how to fix the O-line, and even if JD could get quality players, they need time to mesh. O-lines need chemistry and you just don't get that overnight. 

Really curious to see how they dig themselves out, presuming they’re given the chance. 

[Jet_Engine1]

[Beerfish]

The chances of the jets failing in the Rodgers maneuver is about as likely as Hall suing Oates!   Not happening!

Oh and ya'll can still go back into the' Joe Douglas worst gm year in the last 30' and still change your emjois!

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

Really curious to see how they dig themselves out, presuming they’re given the chance. 

A lot depends on where they’re picking.  They’re clearly in tank mode, and i doubt they’ll let rodgers play this year and possibly submarine next season as well.  So assuming they do not win another game , we’re looking at worst case the 5th pick.  If it’s top 3 it may be a game changer, but if not, douglas may still be able to turn that pick into multiple picks and address multiple offensive needs.  Wouldn’t mind turning huff into a 2nd rounder to help the offense out.  Douglas surely knows that whether it’s a rodgers injury or a bad backup qb situation, if the offense does not look functional next season he’s gone

 

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, Augustiniak said:

A lot depends on where they’re picking.  They’re clearly in tank mode, and i doubt they’ll let rodgers play this year and possibly submarine next season as well.  So assuming they do not win another game , we’re looking at worst case the 5th pick.  If it’s top 3 it may be a game changer, but if not, douglas may still be able to turn that pick into multiple picks and address multiple offensive needs.  Wouldn’t mind turning huff into a 2nd rounder to help the offense out.  Douglas surely knows that whether it’s a rodgers injury or a bad backup qb situation, if the offense does not look functional next season he’s gone

 

Given all that, even getting multiple picks back in a trade down scenario doesn’t really help Douglas keep his job. He’d take the top tackle or WR there and hope he’s instant impact. In the scenario where they trade down from five, the return would be realized in future years, with a future one and other Day Two picks. It’s unlikely anyone they draft at, say, 46 is going to be a safer bet than the OT2 or WR2 they draft at five. 

[Larz]

Nit picking , but installing a new turf and watching it take Rodgers Achilles is the worst sports injury I can remember as far as impact to a franchise. Given the hype and how soon it happened. The trade is fairly balanced without the injury 
 

The panthers trade is worse by several magnitude 

 

Panthers receive:

2023 first-round pick (No. 1 overall)

Bears receive:

WR D.J. Moore

2023 first-round pick (No. 9 overall)

2023 second-round pick (No. 61 overall)

2024 first-round pick (#1 overall?)

2025 second-round pick

[Augustiniak]

Just now, T0mShane said:

Given all that, even getting multiple picks back in a trade down scenario doesn’t really help Douglas keep his job. He’d take the top tackle or WR there and hope he’s instant impact. In the scenario where they trade down from five, the return would be realized in future years, with a future one and other Day Two picks. It’s unlikely anyone they draft at, say, 46 is going to be a safer bet than the OT2 or WR2 they draft at five. 

I would guess the trade down would net a 2nd +, where they take a tackle in round 1 and a wr in round 2.  The problems are many, and he’s got too many holes to plug in the dyke on offense b/c he’s trying to win next season but a big part of this is having a legit backup qb, which you’re really not going to get IMO in FA.  So ironically the best way to get a talented backup is in the draft, but that doesn’t help rodgers immediately unless rodgers has to miss games, when he’ll need someone considerably more competent than wilson/Boyle to win him games and keep the team competitive.  So trading back in round 1 if done correctly could net multiple assets including a qb who even as a rookie, if he doesn’t suck, can help the team in both the short and long term.  

The team is way too imbalanced, and douglas has to know he’s got one offseason to fix enough of the offense to show he’s capable of doing it (not that his 5 yrs here hasn’t been enough).   

[Augustiniak]

3 minutes ago, Larz said:

Nit picking , but installing a new turf and watching it take Rodgers Achilles is the worst sports injury I can remember as far as impact to a franchise. Given the hype and how soon it happened. The trade is fairly balanced without the injury 
 

The panthers trade is worse by several magnitude 

 

Panthers receive:

2023 first-round pick (No. 1 overall)

Bears receive:

WR D.J. Moore

2023 first-round pick (No. 9 overall)

2023 second-round pick (No. 61 overall)

2024 first-round pick (#1 overall?)

2025 second-round pick

And they took the wrong qb.  It’s not as if they have stroud where at least they have a guy to build around.  Young isn’t even as good as bridgewater, who they shoudl have kept 

[RoadFan]

We need to see him play…. 

[Jet_Engine1]

[T0mShane]

16 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

I would guess the trade down would net a 2nd +, where they take a tackle in round 1 and a wr in round 2.  The problems are many, and he’s got too many holes to plug in the dyke on offense b/c he’s trying to win next season but a big part of this is having a legit backup qb, which you’re really not going to get IMO in FA.  So ironically the best way to get a talented backup is in the draft, but that doesn’t help rodgers immediately unless rodgers has to miss games, when he’ll need someone considerably more competent than wilson/Boyle to win him games and keep the team competitive.  So trading back in round 1 if done correctly could net multiple assets including a qb who even as a rookie, if he doesn’t suck, can help the team in both the short and long term.  

The team is way too imbalanced, and douglas has to know he’s got one offseason to fix enough of the offense to show he’s capable of doing it (not that his 5 yrs here hasn’t been enough).   

That’s the thing though—Douglas has to compete for a title next year. A rookie QB is worthless to him, a Day Two receiver probably isn’t ready to contribute at that level. Next year, you can take your pick of veteran free agent backups: Brissett, Minshew, Dalton will all be available for relatively cheap. I bet what you’re saying, that trading down to refill the coffers makes sense, but not if you need to win next season. You’d be helping out the next GM

[Ron Rico]

Hype.

The only marketing strategy Woody comprehends. 

[Pac]

6 hours ago, JetNation said:

Even after their trade for Aaron Rodgers, the New York Jets are an absolute shambles.  The Jets currently have one of the worst offenses in NFL history, and this may not be rock bottom.  There are so many layers to the Rodgers deal that the trade to bring him here could go down as one of the worst in team history.

First and foremost is the obvious.  Getting injured after just four plays meant this season was over before it really started.  Sure there were some moments that offered Jets fans some degree of hope, but deep down everyone knew that this team wasn’t going to do anything more than possibly compete for a playoff spot if everything broke their way.  But that wasn’t to be.

Then of course there are Rodgers’ many wealthy friends who tagged along with the future Hall of Famer on Woody Johnson’s dime.  Wide receivers Allen Lazard and Randall Cobb, offensive tackle Robert Turner, backup quarterback Tim Boyle and to a degree, running back Dalvin Cook were all brought in to get Rodgers what he wanted.  In all, it cost the Jets five roster spots and over $15 million for this season.

Next season they’ll all be gone except for Lazard, who would incur an $18 million dead cap hit if he were to be let go after this season.  But with the authority it appears Rodgers wields at 1 Jets Drive, is there any chance Lazard would be let go anyway?

Speaking of next season, that’s when Rodgers, who cost the Jets two second-round picks and over $100 million in all, will be turning 39-years-old and coming off of a ruptured achilles.  If you’d like to see the list of quarterbacks who fit that description and played at a high level soon thereafter, we went to the trouble of compiling one for you.

1.

But the silver lining here is that the Jets 2023 season is over, but it looks as if they’ll be in position to take Rodgers’ replacement with a top 8 pick in a deep class, right?  Not so fast.

If Rodgers tells Woody Johnson and Joe Douglas that he wants a weapon to throw to or a beefed up offensive line early on, the team may have to wait until next year’s draft, by which time Rodgers may have walked away, to grab a QB.  And there the Jets will find themselves.  A franchise without a QB and with limited cap space.

Why the limited cap space?  By that time, the Jets 2022 draft class could very easily be looking for new contracts.  That’s right.  Sauce Gardner, Garrett Wilson, Jermaine Johnson and Breece Hall could come calling for new deals.  A trio that will likely command somewhere in the neighborhood of $100 million collectively.

And oh by the way, it’s around that time that Aaron Rodgers, according to overthecap.com, will come with a cap hit of $63,000,000 dollars.  Of course there will be some smoke and mirrors salary cap gymnastics to work through, but even after Rodgers retires, the Jets are going to be feeling the pain of his enormous salary.

To top it all off, the Jets do not at the moment and will not over the next season or two have an offensive coordinator who is worthy of a job in the NFL.  Paul Hackett’s son Nate has shown time and again throughout his career that he’s not very good at his job.  Up to this point in time, his most notable achievements are being the son of a former coordinator and forming a bond with Aaron Rodgers as one of the QB’s best friends.

Not exactly the reason Jets fans were hoping they’d be talking about Aaron Rodgers for years to come, but barring a miracle, the legacy of the Rodgers deal will not be recalled fondly.

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm with you on a lot of stuff but this is a little silly bruh. 

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

That’s the thing though—Douglas has to compete for a title next year. A rookie QB is worthless to him, a Day Two receiver probably isn’t ready to contribute at that level. Next year, you can take your pick of veteran free agent backups: Brissett, Minshew, Dalton will all be available for relatively cheap. I bet what you’re saying, that trading down to refill the coffers makes sense, but not if you need to win next season. You’d be helping out the next GM

It’s a tough balancing act, but douglas can do both.  Trading back can restock the offense and that’s before anything they do with a guy like huff.  I think it’s also going to be relatively easy to sign a veteran wr, they’re going to be out there.  But i disagree that a rookie qb is worthless to him b/c i believe that a good rookie will be better than the crap qbs you listed.  

Say the jets have the 5th pick, and trade back to 11 and get a 2nd rounder +.  At 11 they take a tackle.  I would get aggressive and pursue a qb who falls to the early 2nd round, and that guy is going to be better than the sh** qbs who recycle every FA period.  I’d rather have jj mccarthy in there than minschew.

[Darnold's Forehead]

Not even close to being one of the worst trades. Gimme a break.

[Warfish]

57 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Jets gave up two 2’s (One of which cost us WR Elijah Moore to get), Lazard, Cobb, Cook, Boyle, Hackett, and $75 mil for 4 plays.

FYP

[Warfish]

4 minutes ago, Darnold's Forehead said:

Not even close to being one of the worst trades. Gimme a break.

Depends what he gives us next year.

He gets hurt again or sucks?

Yeah, it'll be close to an all-timer.  

[T0mShane]

5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

It’s a tough balancing act, but douglas can do both.  Trading back can restock the offense and that’s before anything they do with a guy like huff.  I think it’s also going to be relatively easy to sign a veteran wr, they’re going to be out there.  But i disagree that a rookie qb is worthless to him b/c i believe that a good rookie will be better than the crap qbs you listed.  

Say the jets have the 5th pick, and trade back to 11 and get a 2nd rounder +.  At 11 they take a tackle.  I would get aggressive and pursue a qb who falls to the early 2nd round, and that guy is going to be better than the sh** qbs who recycle every FA period.  I’d rather have jj mccarthy in there than minschew.

I would just ask this—what Day Two QB was ever good as a rookie? 
 

RE: the tackle. There are two guys in Brugler’s top 50 that can play LT—Fashanu and Alt. The rest are right tackles until you get to Jordan Morgan. Would you rather draft the left tackle or a right tackle? Because that’d be the choice you’re making by trading out. 

[Beerfish]

7 minutes ago, Darnold's Forehead said:

Not even close to being one of the worst trades. Gimme a break.

It was an extremely bad trade for a guy the other team was trying to get rid of an there were no other people bidding for him.

The issue is not one player it is everything that Rodgers brought with him.

We gave up significant draft resources

A huge contract.

Took on the worst oc in the league

Took on a vast array of awful awful players that made our team a lot worse.

[Augustiniak]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I would just ask this—what Day Two QB was ever good as a rookie? 
 

RE: the tackle. There are two guys in Brugler’s top 50 that can play LT—Fashanu and Alt. The rest are right tackles until you get to Jordan Morgan. Would you rather draft the left tackle or a right tackle? Because that’d be the choice you’re making by trading out. 

Would guess the jets would get one of these tackles if they traded back.  The giants/ pats game has big implications for the top slots tomorrow 

[Ron Rico]

7 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

It was an extremely bad trade for a guy the other team was trying to get rid of an there were no other people bidding for him.

The issue is not one player it is everything that Rodgers brought with him.

We gave up significant draft resources

A huge contract.

Took on the worst oc in the league

Took on a vast array of awful awful players that made our team a lot worse.

Bottom line, since the trade, it's brought in nothing but disaster. Period. 

[Plen T]

48 minutes ago, Larz said:

Nit picking , but installing a new turf and watching it take Rodgers Achilles is the worst sports injury I can remember as far as impact to a franchise. Given the hype and how soon it happened. The trade is fairly balanced without the injury 
 

The panthers trade is worse by several magnitude 

 

Panthers receive:

2023 first-round pick (No. 1 overall)

Bears receive:

WR D.J. Moore

2023 first-round pick (No. 9 overall)

2023 second-round pick (No. 61 overall)

2024 first-round pick (#1 overall?)

2025 second-round pick

And they passed on the guy

might go down as the worst trade ever 

[Jet2020]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Who attempts this take with Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson still walking the earth? Jets gave up two 2’s and $75 mil for 4 plays. 

Fixed it for ya. 

[jeremy2020]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Watson’s shoulder might be shot and he’s holding a fully guaranteed $230 million dollar contract. The Browns traded three 1’s for him and he looks an awful lot like a dude who doesn’t want to play football anymore. I say this as a guy who traded decades of internet credibility to advocate for bringing Watson here. Rodgers, by comparison, was like flipping a sixth for a seventh. 

All I can say is.. never go on a darkness retreat with Watson. 

[kevinc855]

Seriously, all you Saleh and JD truthers loved to tell me about how JD use to fleece teams. Looking at the Rodgers trade with the Rodgers tax sitting at 4-7.

Looking like “JD got fleeced”

[Larz]

[T0mShane]

Chiefs don’t have a single win if Mahomes goes out in Week One. 
 

Discuss.

[Ron Rico]

8 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

Seriously, all you Saleh and JD truthers loved to tell me about how JD use to fleece teams. Looking at the Rodgers trade with the Rodgers tax sitting at 4-7.

Looking like “JD got fleeced”

Woody loves JD. You love Woody. Stop complaining and pretend you enjoy it.