Could a healthy Rodgers get this team into the playoffs in 2024?

[Flashlite80]

I know things are depressing right now.  Could a healthy Rodgers change our fortunes in 2024?  We see what a solid QB does for other teams.  We should have a decent amount of cap when we dump all the dead wood.  Enough to fix the offensive line and add a WR2.    With those pieces, could Rodgers energize the offense with his veteran savvy and quick release?

Thoughts?

 

 

[BigRy56]

Without a doubt the answer is yes and playoffs will be the expectation next year 

[Beerfish]

Depends on what douglas and saleh do in the off season.

If the team is close to what it is now?   Nope!

 

[bitonti]

like most NFL players in their retirement years Rodgers might never be really healthy again 

 

[dbatesman]

Running back this year’s impeccable plan except the QB is 40 instead of 39 and coming off a catastrophic injury? Count me in!

[Matt39]

I don’t know. Rodgers is a total unknown at this point since he’s old. And now the players on offense we thought were good are having bad seasons, so can we be even sure they are actually good?

[AZSOJ]

20 minutes ago, Flashlite80 said:

I know things are depressing right now.  Could a healthy Rodgers change our fortunes in 2024?  We see what a solid QB does for other teams.  We should have a decent amount of cap when we dump all the dead wood.  Enough to fix the offensive line and add a WR2.    With those pieces, could Rodgers energize the offense with his veteran savvy and quick release?

Thoughts?

 

 

ONLY IF THE OL IS FIXED and there isa bonified 2nd WR.... otherwise, NO, he will be injured again..

[Augustiniak]

5 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

I don’t know. Rodgers is a total unknown at this point since he’s old. And now the players on offense we thought were good are having bad seasons, so can we be even sure they are actually good?

Even if they get to the playoffs with rodgers, if they don’t win the Super Bowl they have a qb who’s a year older and they still need a solution to the qb situation.  All these guys did was buy time until they get fired if they don’t find a qb to groom behind Rodgers

[varjet]

If I am JD I am flipping the script and investing in offense.  Defense can figure it out.  If JD puts another offense like the last 3 on the field in 2024, he definitely fired (if he even has a job next season).  If they lose games 42-35 he may have a chance.  

That means drafting OL and WR, signing OL and WR, and letting guys like Mosley and Whitehead go.  

[Saul Goodman]

When you say that we are going to “dump all of the dead wood”, which players are you referring to? 

[TuscanyTile2]

30 minutes ago, Flashlite80 said:

I know things are depressing right now.  Could a healthy Rodgers change our fortunes in 2024?  We see what a solid QB does for other teams.  We should have a decent amount of cap when we dump all the dead wood.  Enough to fix the offensive line and add a WR2.    With those pieces, could Rodgers energize the offense with his veteran savvy and quick release?

Thoughts?

Maybe he can but I can't possibly get enthusiastic about this team at this point.  AR8 is going to be 40 and recovering from major surgery.  Plus JD has a lot of work to do on this offense and we're missing a 2nd round pick.

And worst of all, we're the Jets.

[JiFtheOracle]

You sure better hope so because it's the only hope the Jets have since they are handcuffed to Rodgers the GM, HC and QB.

 

[Augustiniak]

Just now, TuscanyTile2 said:

Maybe he can but I can't possibly get enthusiastic about this team at this point.  AR8 is going to be 40 and recovering from major surgery.  Plus JD has a lot of work to do on this offense and we're missing a 2nd round pick.  

Seems like it’s playoffs or complete rebuild.  

[neckdemon]

30 minutes ago, Flashlite80 said:

I know things are depressing right now.  Could a healthy Rodgers change our fortunes in 2024?  We see what a solid QB does for other teams.  We should have a decent amount of cap when we dump all the dead wood.  Enough to fix the offensive line and add a WR2.    With those pieces, could Rodgers energize the offense with his veteran savvy and quick release?

Thoughts?

 

 

with improvement to the oline and upgrade at wr and te this team is a championship contender with rodgers at qb. the defense is really good

[oatmeal]

JD roster building has been a overall fail 

Rodgers has been bringing in washed up has-been since GB 

We have nothing but idiots making the decisions here what do you think? 

[Larz]

I’m sure we’ll get em next year 

[Joe W. Namath]

Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!

J/K.  Even with rodgers we will not be very good.  8-9, 9-8 maybe.

[T0mShane]

19 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Depends on what douglas and saleh do in the off season.

If the team is close to what it is now?   Nope!

 

This. If there are any silver linings to be found in Rodgers getting hurt, it’s that

1. The failures of Douglas’s roster build around Rodgers were laid bare without Rodgers being exposed to them (other than when he got wrecked and disabled). If Douglas takes the right lessons from this season and is honest about where he ****ed up, he has one more chance to fix them and save everyone’s job. 
 

2. Because Woody Johnson is being publicly humiliated again, Saleh and Douglas are finally on their last legs and, presumably, will stop ******* around with peripheral bullsh*t like Zach Wilson’s rehabilitation and hoping Nate Hackett becomes good. *Hopefully* there’s a sense of urgency this offseason that includes firing the OL coach, making some changes to the rest of the staff and—god willing—locking the door when Rodgers comes a-knocking with another list of personnel demands. 

[Augustiniak]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

This. If there are any silver linings to be found in Rodgers getting hurt, it’s that

1. The failures of Douglas’s roster build around Rodgers were laid bare without Rodgers being exposed to them (other than when he got wrecked and disabled). If Douglas takes the right lessons from this season and is honest about where he ****ed up, he has one more chance to fix them and save everyone’s job. 
 

2. Because Woody Johnson is being publicly humiliated again, Saleh and Douglas are finally on their last legs and, presumably, will stop ******* around with peripheral bullsh*t like Zach Wilson’s rehabilitation and hoping Nate Hackett becomes good. *Hopefully* there’s a sense of urgency this offseason that includes firing the OL coach, making some changes to the rest of the staff and—god willing—locking the door when Rodgers comes a-knocking with another list of personnel demands. 

If the mantra is 2024 or bust it’s going to be bust.  Too many things to fix in one offseason, mostly on offense.  OL/wr/coaching and scheme problems and that’s before you consider the dire need for a backup qb.  We all know how this ends, they’ll load up on aging veterans to save their jobs, it will inevitably implode, and we’ll start it all back again.  

[DJF71]

Don't care anymore. 

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

If the mantra is 2024 or bust it’s going to be bust.  Too many things to fix in one offseason, mostly on offense.  OL/wr/coaching and scheme problems and that’s before you consider the dire need for a backup qb.  We all know how this ends, they’ll load up on aging veterans to save their jobs, it will inevitably implode, and we’ll start it all back again.  

Probably, but I think having a plus QB masks a lot of the problems that we’re seeing currently, as is the case on every team.

[New York Mick]

No QB in the history of the NFL could get this team into the playoffs. You could combine the best attributes of all the QBs and still this team wouldn’t make the playoffs. The oline is fcking awful. 

This made up QB wouldn’t be able to make the playoffs with the current oline  

Mind - Peyton

Release - Marino 

Arm - Josh Allen

Touch - Brees

Pocket Presence - Mahomes 

Toughness - Farve

Playoffs - Montana 

Cheating - Brady

Running - Lamar Jackson

Size - Cam Newton 

 

[Augustiniak]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Probably, but I think having a plus QB masks a lot of the problems that we’re seeing currently, as is the case on every team.

I think fixing the OL is going to be such a huge priority this offseason that it actually bodes well for when they don’t make the playoffs, everyone gets canned and the new regime drafts a new qb.  

[#27TheDominator]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Probably, but I think having a plus QB masks a lot of the problems that we’re seeing currently, as is the case on every team.

Honestly, I think the only thing that is truly exposed it is Lazard and maybe Cobb.  They have to see they need more at receiver.  Lazard was Rodgers bud, but he has been a dog.  His contract means he will be here, but they can't be happy with him as #2 or even #3.  They have to add at least 2 receivers.  One legit starting caliber and one guaranteed roster-able WR.  The line seemed good enough until everybody went down.  Not sure how do deal with making sure there is durability, but they will need to add at least one starting tackle. 

[Ron Rico]

Rodgers put up some very impressive numbers his last two years in Green Bay. The Packers went 13-3 in 2021 and 7-9 in 2022. Green Bay had a coherent O-line, and the offense overall were seasoned veterans, who were very familiar with each other, having played together for years. 

Forget QB, the Jets are an injury prone, mish mash of rookies and hired mercenaries, who don't know each other and probably don't like each other. Cook and Breece, for example. Bad juju, bad chemistry. The coaching staff doesn't have a clue. As good as the defense has played (it's been good, not great, so please stop with that nonsense, there's about 5 teams in the NFL who definitely have a better defense, and at least 3 more you could make the argument), does Saleh really utilize the talent at head to maximize potential/efficiency? I'm saying no. The offense isn't even worth talking about, it's a disaster. 

Best case scenario is JD becomes a miracle worker and the offensive line plays good. Just good, mind you. That would be enough. But where's he getting playmakers from? Breece and Wilson aren't the supermen some of you like to pretend that they are. The Jets need "weapons". Best case scenario, JD pulls off a miracle.

Now the defense. That could go one of two ways, right? They get better, or they get worse. 

Special teams? Let's face it, the punter and kicker are aces, but the rest of them are meh. 

I don't think the O-line gets that much better, next year. Even if the Jets can get 5 guys that are good, it takes times to get that chemistry. I think the potential for QB injuries next year are high. That's not doom and gloom, that's reality. 

If I had to bet a paycheck on it, the Jets might win 8 or 9 games next year, and that's the best case scenario. 

Add up all the opportunity cost for acquiring Arodge and it's up to you to decide it was worth. 

[Ron Rico]

7 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

I think fixing the OL is going to be such a huge priority this offseason that it actually bodes well for when they don’t make the playoffs, everyone gets canned and the new regime drafts a new qb.  

It's been a priority since Becton was drafted. And JD bombed. 

[Augustiniak]

5 minutes ago, Ron Rico said:

It's been a priority since Becton was drafted. And JD bombed. 

He’s going to try again.  With another first rounder.  And maybe the OL will be in good shape for the next qb. 

[Gibby]

I honestly never want to hear the words Jets and playoffs again in the same sentence unless it ever actually happens again. This organization loves to tell you how good they’re or will be instead of showing us. Until then…… They suck complete ass.

[T0mShane]

16 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

I think fixing the OL is going to be such a huge priority this offseason that it actually bodes well for when they don’t make the playoffs, everyone gets canned and the new regime drafts a new qb.  

Agree that they can’t be allowed to draft a quarterback given their record of drafting QBs and based on their timeline. If they do well in 24, then maybe they’ll have earned the right to think of the future, otherwise it’s a carrot you offer to the next potential coaching pool

9 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Honestly, I think the only thing that is truly exposed it is Lazard and maybe Cobb.  They have to see they need more at receiver.  Lazard was Rodgers bud, but he has been a dog.  His contract means he will be here, but they can't be happy with him as #2 or even #3.  They have to add at least 2 receivers.  One legit starting caliber and one guaranteed roster-able WR.  The line seemed good enough until everybody went down.  Not sure how do deal with making sure there is durability, but they will need to add at least one starting tackle. 

I said it at the time when they were offering money to Lazard that he was a big-slot/move tight end and nothing more. Rodgers spammed him with 100 targets the last year they were together in Green Bay and it yielded nothing. If he’s manned up by anything other than a strong safety, he’s completely worthless. Unfortunately, like in Green Bay, circumstances got him overpromoted and exposed to the hilt. I would assume they’ll take a run at Davante Adams, but I have a dread fear that Douglas will also throw a bunch of money at Bakhtiari. Bakhtiari allegedly tried to make a demand with LaFleur that he’d only be asked to play on grass, so one hopes he’d retire before bringing his string cheese knee ligaments to the MetLife turf. Douglas should just sit tight, draft Joe Alt, and hope Rodgers stays upright for twelve months

[LockeJET]

What worries me a bit is there are other teams who have had to go to back up quarterbacks yet their offense isn’t historically bad like the Jets. Now, Zach and Boyle aren’t really even back up material but it’s still alarming. Rodgers obviously makes the Jets better but how much better is really an unknown. 

[FidelioJet]

As currently constructed - unlikely.

[Joe W. Namath]

13 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Agree that they can’t be allowed to draft a quarterback given their record of drafting QBs and based on their timeline. If they do well in 24, then maybe they’ll have earned the right to think of the future, otherwise it’s a carrot you offer to the next potential coaching pool

I said it at the time when they were offering money to Lazard that he was a big-slot/move tight end and nothing more. Rodgers spammed him with 100 targets the last year they were together in Green Bay and it yielded nothing. If he’s manned up by anything other than a strong safety, he’s completely worthless. Unfortunately, like in Green Bay, circumstances got him overpromoted and exposed to the hilt. I would assume they’ll take a run at Davante Adams, but I have a dread fear that Douglas will also throw a bunch of money at Bakhtiari. Bakhtiari allegedly tried to make a demand with LaFleur that he’d only be asked to play on grass, so one hopes he’d retire before bringing his string cheese knee ligaments to the MetLife turf. Douglas should just sit tight, draft Joe Alt, and hope Rodgers stays upright for twelve months

Dont forget aaron jones.  Hes coming here too.

[JohnnyLV]

24 minutes ago, Ron Rico said:

Rodgers put up some very impressive numbers his last two years in Green Bay. The Packers went 13-3 in 2021 and 7-9 in 2022. Green Bay had a coherent O-line, and the offense overall were seasoned veterans, who were very familiar with each other, having played together for years. 

 

Rodgers is a first ballot hall of famer that has also notably struggled against good teams.

Reality is that Rodgers played in one of the weakest divisions in football and played 6 games against Det, Min and Chi and 4 games against the third third and fourth teams in their respective divisions so it was easy for Rodgers to string together a bunch of ludicrously strong games. But he is 41, coming off an achilles and noticeably regressed last year.

We need to essentially plan around him this offseason and if he plays great but be prepared for him not to. I'd say it's 50/50 he retires anyway.

If we plan around Rodgers leading some mythical run to the SB, it will end amazingly poorly.

[Ron Rico]

3 minutes ago, JohnnyLV said:

Rodgers is a first ballot hall of famer that has also notably struggled against good teams.

Reality is that Rodgers played in one of the weakest divisions in football and played 6 games against Det, Min and Chi and 4 games against the third third and fourth teams in their respective divisions so it was easy for Rodgers to string together a bunch of ludicrously strong games. But he is 41, coming off an achilles and noticeably regressed last year.

We need to essentially plan around him this offseason and if he plays great but be prepared for him not to. I'd say it's 50/50 he retires anyway.

If we plan around Rodgers leading some mythical run to the SB, it will end amazingly poorly.

It already has. 

 

[JohnnyLV]

4 minutes ago, Ron Rico said:

It already has. 

 

Well yes. But maybe even worse than this year. The Rodgers trade is in my view one of the worst decisions by a NFL team ever.