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https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2023/11/20/23968577/zach-wilson-bust-jets-robert-saleh-nfl

 " An ode to Zach Wilson, the third-biggest bust in NFL history  Welcome to Mount Bustmore, Zach. By James Dator Nov 20, 2023, 7:00am EST 10 Comments / 10 New Share this story      Share this on Facebook (opens in new window)     Share this on Twitter (opens in new window)      Share All sharing options  New York Jets v Buffalo Bills Photo by Bryan M. Bennett/Getty Images  Zach Wilson is the bad habit Robert Saleh can’t quit. The mistake he refuses to admit. An endless font of hope that somehow, against the odds, he’ll materialize into a franchise quarterback. On Sunday afternoon Saleh finally pulled the plug on his three year experiment, as Wilson managed to break the one person who was left to believe in him.  Wilson will exist in some fashion in the NFL for a while. He’ll cling on with the Jets, eventually get released, then some team is going to look at him like a fixer-upper and see if they can’t crack the code. It won’t work, but if Sam Darnold and Blaine Gabbert can continue existence in this league — and if Blake Bortles can hang on for eight seasons, then Wilson sure as heck will.  That won’t change that his days as a starting quarterback are effectively over, and he can be chiseled onto Mount Bustmore alongside Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, and Johnny Manziel. The Four Horsemen of the Football Apocalypse.  And you know what? I think Wilson is the third-biggest bust of this group.  Nobody in NFL history is going to eclipse Ryan Leaf. His off-field demons, coupled with being the pick after Peyton Manning will forever establish him as the biggest bust in history. After that comes JaMarcus Russell, a desperate, Hail Mary of a No. 1 pick that saw the Raiders pass over TWO Hall of Famers taken immediately after in Calvin Johnson and Joe Thomas.  Then there’s Johnny Football. The player who I think got bailed out by Zach Wilson. Sure, he only played in 14 games before flaming out of the NFL with substance issues, but he was the No. 22 pick. The majority of the league knew this was a bad move when it happened — and only the Browns were dumb enough to pull the trigger.  Wilson didn’t earn his spot alone. It takes a village to make a player fail like this. When it comes to the Jets’ quarterback it was a bad game of telephone where almost everyone in league circles talked themselves into believing Wilson was the real deal — even though it made no sense.  The feverish, ludicrous hype around Wilson is the single most confounding thing I’ve seen unfold around a draft since I began analyzing the game as a job in 2010. There were people who said straight-faced that Trevor Lawrence would wind up being the Alex Smith of the 2020 NFL Draft, and Wilson would be the Aaron Rodgers. There was nothing to back this up, but it didn’t stop the comparison sticking. An inconsistent quarterback class after Lawrence led to forced comparisons to try and find a gem, and course-correcting for the collective draft miss with Josh Allen led to overcompensation to find traits where they were none with Zach Wilson.  Wilson was, and is, the worst quarterback I’ve ever watched get drafted in the Top 5 since covering the draft. I’ve got the receipts to back this up.      “Wilson always had days to throw downfield because of a clean pocket. Despite this he still had a tendency to move through his progressions too quickly and miss easy options. In the event he was pressured Wilson was too quick to take off and run. His athleticism was enough against his competition to pick up big yards, but this could become a liability in the NFL. [...]      I can’t shake this feeling that Wilson is going to be a bust though. After watching film I’m not confident in him to be an elite quarterback in the NFL, and it concerns me to think he’ll be selected with that expectation on him.”  At BYU this was a quarterback who had two modes: Toss a ball up to my vastly-superior receivers, or run. That was it. There was not nuance to his game, very few translatable skills to Sunday. If you liked a quarterback who improvised and had faith in his receivers then he was your guy, but outside of that there was nothing. This was a huge problem considering the 2020 BYU schedule was a Charmin-soft 67th in the nation — and when they played Coastal Carolina (the only decent team on their schedule), Wilson was extremely mediocre.  Wilson was a gifted college quarterback when it came to beating up on bad competition. That was it. Somehow the Josh Allen effect made people convinced the film was a lie, and suddenly he’s the No. 2 pick in the draft. The rest is history.  Despite all this, Saleh still isn’t willing to pull the plug on Zach Wilson. He should, but he’s still leaving the door open.      “We’re gonna watch the tape and we’ll make a decision tomorrow,” Saleh answered. “We’ll look at all of it. I’m not ready to answer those questions yet.”  The Jets’ coach is still framing this as a holistic failure, not solely a quarterback problem. Part of that is true, but man ... if you’ve watched Zach Wilson play for three years and this point and still need another day to decide if he’s not the guy — I don’t know what to tell you.  At the very least it seems like time is ticking down on all this. Whether Wilson starts next week or not is immaterial. The Jets are just burning the clock until Aaron Rodgers is able to return, and then the Wilson experiment is over. Winner: Trevor Lawrence  I do love some nice juxtaposition, so let’s move from Zach Wilson to the franchise quarterback taken one spot ahead of him.  It’s not worth gilding the lily too much when it comes to Trevor Lawrence beating the Titans, but it’s still significant. This is the kind of game the Jaguars would always find a way to lose down the stretch and find themselves on the wrong side of the playoff picture because of it. Instead Lawrence played near-flawless football as he went 24-for-32 for 262 yards and two touchdowns in the win.  Lawrence and Christian Kirk are becoming one of the best QB-WR threats in the NFL that not enough people are talking about. Kirk is on pace to have over 1,000 yards this season, and most-importantly the Jaguars’ QB has Calvin Ridley as another outlet.  This feels like a very dangerous team come playoff time, and not enough people are paying attention to this 7-3 team."

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12 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

How so ? He barely got a chance to play. Zach on the other hand, got 3 years to play as worst qb in NFL. It’s not even close. Until Lance gets 3 years and does just as bad, zach is by far worse.

To Lynch’s and Shanahan’s Credit they kept Lance in the closet so it would appear that Zach Wilson was worse.  

I would think there are rookie QBs with worse records than ZW-maybe not worse stats, but worse records.  He is clearly a top 10 bust.  Top 3 I don’t know. 

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17 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

How so ? He barely got a chance to play. Zach on the other hand, got 3 years to play as worst qb in NFL. It’s not even close. Until Lance gets 3 years and does just as bad, zach is by far worse.

Using this logic, Hackenberg was not a bust. He never got a chance to start.

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2 minutes ago, varjet said:

To Lynch’s and Shanahan’s Credit they kept Lance in the closet so it would appear that Zach Wilson was worse.  

I would think there are rookie QBs with worse records than ZW-maybe not worse stats, but worse records.  He is clearly a top 10 bust.  Top 3 I don’t know. 

you know what's funny ? Who the hell cares, he sucks and he sucks for us. Can't we be number 1 in anything

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22 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

How so ? He barely got a chance to play. Zach on the other hand, got 3 years to play as worst qb in NFL. It’s not even close. Until Lance gets 3 years and does just as bad, zach is by far worse.

Akili Smith and Josh Rosen are up there too. But both teams cut bait way before they let those guys shat themselves for 3 seasons. 

Bullet points; jets' braintrust bought into a BYU pro day that was BS, and groupthinked the team into this pick. The actual games weren't off the charts good,and when he faced even average Power 5 teams he wasn't very good. He wasn't the capitain of BYU, which was curious.  You cannot fail on the 2nd pick of the draft like this. it's exactly like Ryan Leaf. And you've had 2 different OCs who have had on occasion been moderately successful  elsewhere fail with WIlson. 

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33 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

How so ? He barely got a chance to play. Zach on the other hand, got 3 years to play as worst qb in NFL. It’s not even close. Until Lance gets 3 years and does just as bad, zach is by far worse.

At least Zach only cost a single 1st.

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26 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Watching every other QB suck with this supporting should tell you that Zach,  who has been bad,  may just be geno Smith part 2.

He'll resurface with a real franchise and likely show that the Jets were the problem all along. 

Even if this is true what are the Jets supposed to do? Keep him on the bench until year 10?

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11 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Watching every other QB suck with this supporting should tell you that Zach,  who has been bad,  may just be geno Smith part 2.

He'll resurface with a real franchise and likely show that the Jets were the problem all along. 

What about in 2021 and 2022 when other QBs played fine with the same supporting staff?

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3 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

What about in 2021 and 2022 when other QBs played fine with the same supporting staff?

What are there collective records compared to Zach?

Here's some help since it seems your hate for Zach has blinded you to the reality...

Flacco was 1-6. 

White was 2-6

 

Now please define  'played fine"

 

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23 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

What are there collective records compared to Zach?

Here's some help since it seems your hate for Zach has blinded you to the reality...

Flacco was 1-6. 

White was 2-6

 

Now please define  'played fine"

 

The passing offense with White and Flacco was productive in 2021-22. It was only totally inept with Zach Wilson.

And again, White and Flacco aren't good but this is a very clear illustration that in the MLF offense total JAGs were capable of stepping in and passing for 300 yards.

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10 minutes ago, Plen T said:

6 turnovers 3 touchdowns and a 1-3 record against whip cream opponents is playing fine?

wow!

Flacco and White combined for more games with a passer rating over 90 in 2021-22 than Zach has had in his career (in a fraction of the starts, obviously).

Maybe playing "fine" is an exaggeration (White and Flacco are total JAGs, albeit both clearly better than Wilson, Boyle, or Siemien) but at least they were capable of having games where they looked like an NFL QB and where our offense looked like it was being run by a competent professional who belonged on the field.

As soon as Mike White went out and hung 400 yards on the AFC Champions it was clear what was holding back the MLF offense. That was a great QB friendly scheme and we traded it in for one that is totally inept because Zach Wilson was so bad we traded for a 40 year old QB.

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47 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

The passing offense with White and Flacco was productive in 2021-22. It was only totally inept with Zach Wilson.

And again, White and Flacco aren't good but this is a very clear illustration that in the MLF offense total JAGs were capable of stepping in and passing for 300 yards.

That stat is still so hard to get past.

Also you can even put a * next to the Bears because QB yards are QB yards, and with the nature of Fields's game they literally had 3000 team rushing yards last year (compare to the Jets ~1700; rushing/receiving put another ~80 ypg for Chicago > Jets last year alone). 

It's disgusting.

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21 hours ago, Bugg said:

Akili Smith and Josh Rosen are up there too. But both teams cut bait way before they let those guys shat themselves for 3 seasons. 

Bullet points; jets' braintrust bought into a BYU pro day that was BS, and groupthinked the team into this pick. The actual games weren't off the charts good,and when he faced even average Power 5 teams he wasn't very good. He wasn't the capitain of BYU, which was curious.  You cannot fail on the 2nd pick of the draft like this. it's exactly like Ryan Leaf. And you've had 2 different OCs who have had on occasion been moderately successful  elsewhere fail with WIlson. 

just watch who picks zach up if he's released.  you don't think the other teams think the jets had an offensive juggernaut going that was brought down by qb play?

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